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Slidinspots
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-06-24 4:19 PM (#106987)
Subject: Tires - again


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I know there is always something about tires here and Goodyear keeps coming up. So now I need tires, do a search here and what I have figured out is that the 614 is the best trailer tire. Search around and it looks like it only comes in “G”. I have “E” on my trailer so I would need new wheels and a new spare also if I went that route, is that right$$$? What is the best “E” tire? I have a 2000 Sundowner, 3H, 8’LQ.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-06-24 4:29 PM (#106988 - in reply to #106987)
Subject: RE: Tires - again


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(quote) What is the best “E” tire?..... For an E rated trailer tire, IMHO, it would be the Michelin XPS Rib... Steel casing, smooth tread means a cooler running tire and they wear like iron. There again, they are expensive.

http://www.michelinman.com/tires/light-truck/xps-rib/

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Michelin&model=XPS+Rib

There's folks that have had good luck with Goodyear Wranglers, Firestone Transforce, Uniroyal Laredo, AWP's, HD/H's, BF Goodrich Commercial T/A's, etc.. Anything other that the Chinese brands.... Specially with the temps now in the 90-100 range, that asphalt will be 130 degrees....

 

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-06-24 4:34 PM (#106990 - in reply to #106987)
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In my opinion, any AMERICAN made LT tire will work great. Michelins are good. The 614 is the best tire out there in a 16" for trailers. But, they aren't the right tire every time. Just stay away from chinese made maypops.

Did I say Buy American?

 



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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-06-24 4:34 PM (#106991 - in reply to #106987)
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Goodyear is one of the better tires in the G range. They also make the "E" range tires you need, along with most other tire manufacturers. If you don't need a G rated tire, you probably have no need to alter your wheels.

There are many good brands of LT "E" range tires. An all weather tire is better than an all terrain for trailering. Buy nothing that is Taiwan or Chinese. I personally like BF Goodrich.

Gard

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-06-24 4:37 PM (#106992 - in reply to #106987)
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´Made in USA´ not the norm for trailer tires

By Vera Linsalata

Tire Business Imports will continue to rule in the niche market of trailer tires for camping and boating customers, according to participants in the field. No one knows for sure how many trailer tires are imported versus manufactured in the U.S. But like other high-volume tires, trailer tires tend to bring low margins, according to Jeff Kreitzman, CEO of American Pacific Industries Inc. Kreitzman estimates the U.S. replacement ST, or Special Tires, trailer tire market consists of 6 million to 10 million units.

API has trailer tires made for it by an undisclosed tire manufacturer at its Qingdao, China, plant, but Kreitzman declined to comment on how many units are imported or sold in the U.S. API plans to launch its own ST trailer tire line in the Gladiator brand next spring, Kreitzman said. Currently, API sells Gladiator-brand medium truck and earthmover tires."We have a pretty good customer base in (Gladiator)," he said. "We figure it´s a natural fit."

Loosely defined, ST trailer tires are used in a variety of towing applications, including boat, utility and travel trailers, said Tim Landis, vice president of aftermarket and replacement tire sales for Long Beach, Calif.-based Greenball Corp.  Competition in the U.S. trailer tire market has driven prices for the products down and lowered profitability, Kreitzman and Landis both said. However, Landis said Greenball is seeing its radial ST trailer tire business growing as more original equipment manufacturers are preferring radials to bias-ply because of radials´ greater load carrying capacity and smoother ride. He declined to disclose sales. Greenball imports its Towmaster and Transmaster trailer tire brands from Indonesia, Taiwan and China, Landis said.

Other companies that supply ST trailer tires are Goodyear, Titan International Inc., Maxxis International Inc., Carlisle Tire & Wheel Co. and American Kenda Rubber Industries Co. Ltd. Of those firms, Goodyear and Maxxis both said they manufacture their trailer tires in Asia, but neither would say at which plants. Maurice Taylor Jr., Titan chairman and CEO, recently said that except for a few contracts with trailer manufacturers, Titan is out of the trailer tire business. The travel trailer and camper manufacturing industry reported revenues of $9.28 billion in 2006 with a 15.9 percent gross profit. These numbers reflect sales in all trailer segments, including those that would not use ST-type tires.

In the boating trailer sector, research firm Statistical Surveys Inc. tracks boat trailer registrations in all states and noted that new registrations fell 34 percent to 64,898 units through May 31 compared with the year-ago period. New boat trailer registrations at year-end 2006 totaled 204,405 units, down from 223,978 in 2005, according to Randy Lemasters, sales and marketing manager for Statistical Surveys.

http://www.globaltirenews.com/headlines2.html?id=1190062334



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Slidinspots
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-06-24 4:43 PM (#106993 - in reply to #106987)
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You guys are awesome! Thanks.
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Slidinspots
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-06-25 4:19 PM (#107059 - in reply to #106987)
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Checking close to home and work AND where I think I can get the trailer in. Goodyear Marathon are on backorder until the end of July, don't even have one to replace my flat. LesSchwab has Open Country HT for $225 each. What made me nervous is when I gave him the size he said thet "E" was the speed rating and then asked me what ply I needed. Another place has Carlisles, he said they are made in USA but they are much cheaper, $140. Thoughts?
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-06-25 4:39 PM (#107060 - in reply to #106987)
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I don't know about the Open Country tires, but here is lot of info about Carlisle.

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=10218

 

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-06-25 4:44 PM (#107061 - in reply to #106987)
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I have a flat bed trailer that has 3 Carlisles on it that are about 4 years old. Blew the other one out hauling hay a few weeks ago. Put the spare on...an old worn out Goodyear. I've put alot of weight on those Carlisles, but not many miles. Had 14 round bales on the trailer when it blew, so it was carrying it's share of weight, but still....

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Slidinspots
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-06-25 5:12 PM (#107062 - in reply to #107060)
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I don't know about the Open Country tires, but here is lot of info about Carlisle.

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=102...



OK according to that thread the Goodyear Marathons are no good also. I will do some reasearch on the Open Country tonite.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-06-25 5:35 PM (#107064 - in reply to #107062)
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Originally written by Slidinspots on 2009-06-25 6:12 PM

I don't know about the Open Country tires, but here is lot of info about Carlisle. http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=102... OK according to that thread the Goodyear Marathons are no good also. I will do some reasearch on the Open Country tonite.

 

Just remember, these "ST" (special trailer) tires are speed rated at 65 mph..... They are in no ways the same as a "LT" (light truck) tire.

 

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-06-25 5:44 PM (#107065 - in reply to #107059)
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Originally written by Slidinspots on 2009-06-25 5:19 PM

 What made me nervous is when I gave him the size he said thet "E" was the speed rating and then asked me what ply I needed. Another place has Carlisles, he said they are made in USA but they are much cheaper, $140. Thoughts?

Run, don't walk away from this sales person. His statements disqualify him as a knowledgeable tire dealer. Invariably you will end up purchasing the wrong tire and probably paying too much.

LT E range tires typically cost $125 -$150 and work very well

Gard

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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2009-06-26 12:26 PM (#107092 - in reply to #106987)
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Les Schwab is based in Oregon and alot of folks outside of the Western US aren't familiar with Les Schwab.  Open Country is their house brand tire and I think Les Schwab builds a good tire.  Lots of people around here run Les Schwab tires on their trucks and trailers.  But have to agree with the previous post about being wary of that particular salesperson.  

Have you checked with Bickford yet for tires?  Yes, they sell tires, I know they have Goodyear and I believe Michelin as well. 



Edited by headhunter 2009-06-26 12:29 PM
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-06-26 4:08 PM (#107096 - in reply to #106987)
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Just saw an advertisement on TV for a $50 rebate when you purchase 4 BF Goodrich tires.
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Slidinspots
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2009-06-26 5:55 PM (#107101 - in reply to #106987)
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I just ordered Goodyear Wranglers. That was the original tire on the trailer. I went through the Goodyear store, probably not the best price but they are close and I will go early in the morning before the parking area fills up. Don't know why they don't have more room for horse people out here! Thanks everyone!
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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2009-06-26 9:49 PM (#107118 - in reply to #106987)
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The Goodyear Wranglers look like a good choice if you need E not G:

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/wrangler.html



Edited by headhunter 2009-06-26 9:51 PM
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