Posted 2009-06-13 6:16 PM (#106405) Subject: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 342 Location: MS
http://www.horsetrailerworld.com:80/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=20596...
So, this is a 4' SW Exiss, like mine. How in the world did they get a separate shower and toilet in it, and still have room for the cabinets and steps? AND still have room for a walk thru to the horse quarters. Someone has GOT to show me how that could be done!
Posted 2009-06-13 8:17 PM (#106406 - in reply to #106405) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 402 Location: Lockport, Illinois
Lets see if I can explain this without a picture.
The short wall is 4' and the long wall is 7'. The door to the LQ is on the short wall, with a wall going from side to side. The cabinets, the fridge, and the sink are on the wall oposite the enterance door. In the middle of the wall going from side to side is the door to the bath. The stooll and the shower are on the remaining 3' of the LW, the shower in the corner where the horse compartment join the LW. And the door to the horse compartment is in the usual place.
I also have a solid door instead of a glass or shower curtain type. In the newer trailers, the separate shower pan and toilet are replaced with a combined shower pan and toilet assembly as shown in this sale:
Our separate shower is very confining and we added a cowboy shower in the first stall. The original shower is now a catch all for boots, hat boxes and the like.
We recently completed the construction of a weekender LQ in an Exiss Event, with a 4' short wall, somewhat copying a Sierra interior. We opted not to include the shower in the bathroom, instead only using a cowboy shower in the stall area. A wardrobe cabinet was fabricated and installed in the bathroom in the place of the shower. It affords a great deal of storage.
You can have a very livable space in only a 4' short wall.
I believe there is a mix up and inclusion of interior photos that don't belong to or match this interior. If you look at the interior photos #6, 7, and 8 of the second row, you will notice a completely wood paneled, pass through door to the stalls. This door is located just to the right of the glass shower/bathroom door.
Yet in photos #9, 10 and 11, of the second and 3rd row of photos, the pass through door is shown, as having only a wood trim and a light colour interior paneling, on the face of the door itself.
I think the photos # 6, 7, and 8 were posted in error, and #9, 10, and 11 are the correct ones for that interior.
Posted 2009-06-15 12:09 PM (#106473 - in reply to #106405) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 342 Location: MS
Thanks, Gard! I looked and looked at those photos trying to figure out the placement by the cabinets and panelling. It just didn't jive! In my trailer...a 4' SW with a combo shower/toilet...I was standing in there trying to imagine how you could have all they showed in the photos in that small area. I have to go back and see if it was a 7 wide or 8 wide, but I just could not see how it could be done! There is some 'lost' space behind my shower, but that is where the side mounted electric and water is.
Posted 2009-06-15 2:18 PM (#106487 - in reply to #106405) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 714 Location: Minnesota
Hate to disagree with you Gard, but... 1st pic 2nd row shows towel bar and bottom of mirror. 6th pic on 2nd row shows the same towel bar and mirror plus the door to the bath room. 8th pic in 2nd row is looking in the bath room door with toilet on right. The raise panel is just that, a raised panel on the wall behind the toilet. The 2nd pic on 3rd row show the shower directly across from the toilet and in the corner of the long wall. Also, the picture showing the walk through to the stalls is covered in the same material as all the other walls in the trailer.
It is a very tiny bathroom, but it is in that trailer.
Posted 2009-06-15 3:49 PM (#106495 - in reply to #106487) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
Originally written by genebob on 2009-06-15 3:18 PM
Hate to disagree with you Gard, but... 1st pic 2nd row shows towel bar and bottom of mirror. 6th pic on 2nd row shows the same towel bar and mirror plus the door to the bath room. 8th pic in 2nd row is looking in the bath room door with toilet on right. The raise panel is just that, a raised panel on the wall behind the toilet. The 2nd pic on 3rd row show the shower directly across from the toilet and in the corner of the long wall. Also, the picture showing the walk through to the stalls is covered in the same material as all the other walls in the trailer.
It is a very tiny bathroom, but it is in that trailer.
You may be right. However, with the exception of the pass through door, there is only one other interior door, the one into the bathroom.
Picture #6 shows a wood paneled pass through door. The mirror is affixed on the slant wall between this door and the main entrance door further to the right. The bathroom door, not shown, will be immediately to the left. You will notice a break in the wall to the right and a wall seam. On the 4' LQ's, this wall is seamless and straight.
Picture #11 of the interiors shots, also shows a shower door and a pass through door with interior wall covering. You will also notice on the right, the end of a square towel bar.
The entrance to the bathroom is either the glass enclosure or the solid door. The pass through door is either #6 or #11. It can't be both. Based on the wall covering of the door in #11, I stand by my initial statements.
The bathroom is in the trailer, but the question is what door is it using? The photos show a total of three doors, the LQ only has two.
Posted 2009-06-15 10:42 PM (#106512 - in reply to #106405) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 714 Location: Minnesota
The floor plan for this bathroom is much like home plate in baseball. The shower is in the corner going down third base line. The walk through is right down the middle of the plate coming from the pitcher. The toilet back is angled to the corner on the first base line. The bathroom door on the angle wall on the first base side. An outside pitch to a right handed batter would come right through the camper door.
Posted 2009-06-16 7:46 AM (#106521 - in reply to #106495) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain...
Pics 6 and 7 are the same door. That door is your bath room door.
What you are seeing in pic 11 is the edge of a light switch, I think.
You are right about the straight wall in the 4', but I don't believe that this is a 4' package. They are describing the trailer as 18' long which would make it a longer LQ on a two horse. Look at the distance between the door and the feed door in the outside pic of the trailer.
Posted 2009-06-16 10:11 AM (#106527 - in reply to #106521) Subject: RE: I gotta know how they did this!
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
Tres, I think you may have the answer. The break in the wall matches the floor plan, you would have three doors, the trailer over all length is correct etc. The original description is incorrect with the 4' statement.
Here are some photos of the 5' short wall matching your floor plan:
An Exiss three horse with a 4' short wall LQ, also has a box length of 18'. It doesn't have enough interior space for the toilet to be separate from the shower area. This is what I own and with which I am familiar.
Amazing how much more interior room one foot affords. Mystery solved.
I gotta know how they did this!
