This story is about the ban on firearms in national forests and wildlife areas being lifted by Pres.Bush.It could apply to those who trail ride/camp in these areas and want to take a gun or firearm with them.
Posted 2008-12-08 8:16 AM (#95898 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I think it is a good idea to get certified to carry a concealed weapon so that if you run into a problem...a predator, human or wild animal, you can protect yourself. This does not mean ride around shooting at stuff... simply be prepared for trouble if it comes your way....
Posted 2008-12-08 10:08 AM (#95904 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I have not worried about protection from other people while in National Parks. But riding back country in Yellowstone with the Grizzly's does concern me. I would probably use a gun more as a noise maker rather than shoot and piss off a big bear. More so than protection, it's a tool. We have needed a gun several times to euthanized a horse during extended trail rides. Not often, but in the 20+ years that I've riden back country trails, we have had a couple times where the horse were down for some reason and we had to finish them. It's never a pretty picture when hyou have to put down a good horse, but it's even worse if you don't have the proper tools for the job.
Posted 2008-12-08 5:24 PM (#95926 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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Read carefully. The only change is if you have a concealed carry permit for the state which the park is within you may now legally carry that concealed firearm into the park. Thats all, you do not have free reign to carry firearms legally into the park sans permit.
Posted 2008-12-08 5:41 PM (#95928 - in reply to #95925) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I figurd you'd of laughed and said " well I figured so much of you cowpony!' LOL!!!!! How's all been? Pretty darned cold here, but no rain or snow. The sierras are pretty barren.
I believe something else if I remember correctly, that any state park or national park, you had to have a concealed firearms permit. But in the Wilderness areas, or backcountry as long as you have it exposed so someone can see it, you don't need a permit. It would be just like if you were hunting, as long as it's in view, it's legit.....
Posted 2008-12-09 7:02 AM (#95934 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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There was a ban? Glad no one has looked in my saddlebags.
Seriously though, Ive always carried one for the same reason Paintedhorse said. As far as Im concerned to ride a horse hours/days away from a vet without a gun to put it down is irresponsible. Never really worried if it was legal or not, lesser of two evils you might say.
$h!t happens, and I sure wouldnt want to have to try and beat a horse to death with a rock.
Posted 2008-12-11 2:45 PM (#96021 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I have carried a firearm for years and years. I travel and ride alone most of the time, and a firearm just gives me a little added security. After a robbery at a restaurant I used to manage, I vowed that I would never be that helpless again. I had a little 38 that lived in the false bottom of my purse. Nearly went through an aiprort security checkpoint with it! The gun had to stop living in my purse, but I still carry it with me when riding or when driving out of town. And for those who think they simply couldn't pull the trigger, get over that notion. Being scared shi***less and totally helpless will eliminate any doubt about your ability to pull the trigger on some deadbeat that is threatening your life.
Posted 2008-12-11 7:08 PM (#96031 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I personally would prefer to carry the gun on me instead of in a pommel or saddle bag. I might have horse to human seperation at some point and that might leave me SOL. What about the laws concerning rifles? If I ever have the privilege to ride in such rustic beauty, I definately would pack a firearm.
Posted 2008-12-20 4:37 PM (#96329 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I think we have only one national park here in Oregon, and that is Crater lake. I will be carrying a Smith and Wesson 38 special in a crossdraw holster on the trails for the first time this coming summer. Our horses need a little more acclimating to sudden gunshots . So we are doing some range and field shooting time so it becomes second nature to use it from the saddle. We have come across many aggresive dogs and unsavory people even on our most remote trail rides. Not to mention a big increase over the last few years in Couger sign and sightings.I would hope to use it as a last resort after other options are used up ,pepper spray etc. The practice makes it feel as natural as the rest of my tack
Posted 2008-12-21 11:12 AM (#96348 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I have read several accounts of marijuana smuggling becoming a serious problem in the national forests in your part of the world. Pretty dangerous people involved in that lifestyle. My parents had a close shave down in the Big Bend of Texas a few years ago due to Mexican drug smugglers. Have you had any problems in that regard?
Posted 2009-01-21 5:09 PM (#97952 - in reply to #95926) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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Originally written by Rich M. on 2008-12-08 5:24 PM
Read carefully. The only change is if you have a concealed carry permit for the state which the park is within you may now legally carry that concealed firearm into the park. Thats all, you do not have free reign to carry firearms legally into the park sans permit.
New President Obama has put a freeze on all of Bush's pending regulations for "review." So,I imagine that this is one legal right that can be kissed goodbye.
Posted 2009-01-22 11:08 AM (#97991 - in reply to #95885) Subject: RE: Firearms Ban lifted
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I hear ya on that one too Crowley! My husband has gone on an all ammo shopping spree, and started reloading his own again. He also picked up quite a few guns here before Jan. 1 of the new year. It's our right, what are we gonna do especially those that hunt and use them on ranches gonna do. Hope NObama gets his head out of the horse's butt on the guns issue.