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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-09-23 4:07 PM (#91987)
Subject: Trailer brakes


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Since this is the first new trailer in quite awhile, I was wondering if it is normal that the brakes are a "little grabby or jerky?" I had to turn the controller way down from our previous trailer and it just seems that they are grabbing a little to much. Hard to come to a gradual stop. I really don't want to turn the controller down any more just in case I have to stop suddenly. Any advice welcome.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-09-23 4:27 PM (#91988 - in reply to #91987)
Subject: RE: Trailer brakes


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If this is a brand new trailer, the brake shoes are probably not seated yet. It will take several miles of usage for the linings to wear into the brake drums. Use the bakes lightly for your first trips, and once they seat, you shouldn't experience any problems.

Gard

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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-09-23 4:47 PM (#91991 - in reply to #91987)
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I seem to remember reading somewhere about a "brake seating procedure".  Something like using the trailer brakes to slow the trailer from 50 mph to 25 mph ten times in a row, allowing the brakes to cool???  Found this on the Dexter site;

"NOTE: After replacing your brake shoes and magnets you will experience a decrease in braking performance until the components have worn into the drum and finished the burnishing process. This process requires many stops to bring the new shoe's performance back to normal. This may take more than 100 stops to finish this break-in period with stops of 20 mph decreases in speed."

I didnt bother with my trailer, just drug it around town for a while then adjusted the brakes.

What kind of controller do you have?

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-09-23 5:36 PM (#91992 - in reply to #91987)
Subject: RE: Trailer brakes


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Originally written by genebob on 2008-09-23 5:07 PM

Since this is the first new trailer in quite awhile, I was wondering if it is normal that the brakes are a "little grabby or jerky?" I had to turn the controller way down from our previous trailer and it just seems that they are grabbing a little to much. Hard to come to a gradual stop. I really don't want to turn the controller down any more just in case I have to stop suddenly. Any advice welcome.

If you are using a "timed" brake controller, like the Draw-Tite II you may have to also adjust the sync control.

SYNC CONTROL

The Sync Control is located on the left side of the Brake

Control Unit, forward of the mounting bracket.

The Sync Control adjusts trailer brake aggressiveness.

The trailer brakes become more aggressive as the switch

is moved toward the front of the tow vehicle.

To view the Sync setting on the display, press the brake

pedal (trailer must be connected) and move the Sync Control

slightly. The display will change to the Sync mode.

The Sync setting is shown as 10 through 90 with 10 being

the least aggressive and 90 being the most aggressive.

The Sync adjustment has no effect on the manual control.

The Sync Control would be adjusted for individual driver

preference or changing road conditions.

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-09-23 6:25 PM (#91999 - in reply to #91987)
Subject: RE: Trailer brakes


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Retento-It is the Draw-tite Advantage II. That is what I meant about turning it down. For my other trailer I would have it set at 40-45 depending on the load. Lower if empty. I now have it set at 25 and it jerks. I wondered if the brakes just needed to be broken in. Now I'm pretty well sure of it. Thanks all!
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-09-23 6:25 PM (#92000 - in reply to #91992)
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Originally written by retento on 2008-09-23 6:36 PM

If you are using a "timed" brake controller, like the Draw-Tite II you may have to also adjust the sync control.

Now why would anyone be using one of those POS "timed"  contollers?  Unless they actually wanted to run into something........

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-09-23 10:44 PM (#92015 - in reply to #91987)
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Chad- please explain. I've been using this controller for seven years with a he** of a lot of miles on it. Never had any problems. I guess you could say that may be because I consider myself a safe driver. But .... then again maybe not ... Who knows.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-09-24 6:54 AM (#92022 - in reply to #92015)
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Originally written by genebob on 2008-09-23 10:44 PM Chad- please explain. I've been using this controller for seven years with a he** of a lot of miles on it. Never had any problems. I guess you could say that may be because I consider myself a safe driver. But .... then again maybe not ... Who knows.

Read here,

http://www.etrailer.com/faq_brakecontroller.aspx

Long story short, it has nothing to do with being a safe driver.......I know plenty of people who have hauled years without brakes and never had a "problem". The simple fact you (and others) use a timer controller puts you in my dangerous driver category.  Nothing personal, I just dont want you behind me.

The basic difference between junk timer controller and proportional is; in an emergency the timer still ramps up brake power in a "normal stop" time frame.......that is no good. The proportional controllers will respond with max brake power immediately when the emergency calls for it. How would you feel if your truck took 5-10 seconds to get full braking power? The wreck would be all over by the time the brakes came on full.

Do yourself/us a favor a get a Prodigy or equiv. controller,  you'll notice a difference.  Ive guided many people in the "good controller" search (both on the web and the real world), never a complaint from any of them, most thank me.  A Prodigy can generally be had on Ebay for around $100.

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-09-24 2:29 PM (#92044 - in reply to #91987)
Subject: RE: Trailer brakes


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Looked on ebay- The p3 is $120.00. Called my favorite parts dealer-$259.00. Makes you wonder what the deal is.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-09-24 3:03 PM (#92047 - in reply to #92044)
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Originally written by genebob on 2008-09-24 3:29 PM

Looked on ebay- The p3 is $120.00. Called my favorite parts dealer-$259.00. Makes you wonder what the deal is.

The local guys are making a killing.  It gets even worse when they want to charge $80 to hook it up, takes 5 minutes with the plug and play connectors for most 'newish' trucks.

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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-09-24 3:13 PM (#92048 - in reply to #92044)
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Anybody know if the P3 works better with LED trailer lights than its predecessor?  I had an older Prodigy model that "pulsed" the top rear (LED)brakelight on my trailer.  Didn't realize how annoying it was until I followed my own trailer one day.
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-09-24 3:47 PM (#92049 - in reply to #92048)
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Originally written by headhunter on 2008-09-24 4:13 PM

Anybody know if the P3 works better with LED trailer lights than its predecessor?  I had an older Prodigy model that "pulsed" the top rear (LED)brakelight on my trailer.  Didn't realize how annoying it was until I followed my own trailer one day.

The P3 sends the same test pulse the Prodigy does. 

Is your top rear brake light a single?  Or is it in the 3 light ID bar?  I have a multi way (stop, tail, turn signals) ID bar that hooks into the turn signal/brake light......not the electric brake circuit.........no flashing with the P3/Prodigy.

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2008-11-07 1:16 PM (#94471 - in reply to #91987)
Subject: RE: Trailer brakes


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chadsalt- I sent you a PM
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