Tr0y, I get where you are coming from, I have pulled many a trailer a many a mile with a truck that was not built for the task, the difference is I knew it before I backed under it. But in this deal you have a couple starched shirts and polished boot sales guys trying to push a trailer towards folks that shouldn't be pulling them. Sure if the guy goes in and swallows what these salesgoons are spewing then they got what they deserved to a point, we probley won't stop one deal from happening on this forum, but from the responses above it looks like the polished boots are reading this thread and maybe they will get the hint that they are doing a disservice to the rest of us buy pushing a product upon folks that are unable to see the difference of sales smoke and reality. I would like to think that even in todays economy that horse folks are just that,............ horse folks, and we don't need to be blatently lieing about our products to sell them. I just happen to be a salesman, no starch or polish here, and I won't put some poor fools life in danger just to collect a commision check on a trailer, but I will be able to sleep tonight knowing that I didn't.

Tr0y ... Okay.. I'm not a lawyer & can't quote chapter & verse...so I should not have said that Shadow's ad "is" criminal.  I DO stick with saying "this trailer is perfect for a 1/2 ton truck" should be criminal.  This is a specific statement of use.  Pictures of overloaded trucks don't imply fitness of use.

I'll bet that Shadow's insurance company makes sure trailer, stock number 3871 is never sold to a person with a 1/2 ton truck.  That advertisement will live forever in Google's cache.  The Internet is too good as evidence of egregious behavior exceeding sales puffery.   Shadow has lost plausible deniability.

Troy...   Sounds like you haul horses full time.  Me, I only pull my own horses for my own pleasure.  Last week, I burned a couple of barrels of gasoline over 900 miles.  If you wish to compare hat size, yours is the biggest. 

Regardless... I encourage people to "call out" Internet postings.  If you know something different, add it.  The Internet is only useful because many people post.  It is not "picking on" it is sharing experience and knowledge.  The cure for Internet misinformation is more information.  (and not regulation as suggested)  In this thread, I didn't say Shadow is full of horse poo.  I simply asked for the hitch weight of the advertised trailer.  No response = No credibility

For my curiosity in turn, describe your rig.  Things like truck model, trailer, horse configuration, etc.  What is your regular route? or do you travel as booked?  How do you deal with the state health certificate requirements as you cross borders?  What states are strictly enforced? 

Likely you have lots of knowledge this forum is hungry for.  Please share it.

I also just haul my own, but I am hooked to different trailers often as I install LQ's in them. So you still win the biggest hat award. I'm just trying to point out the fact that some "slick willy salesman" will tell you anything to get a commision check. If I offended anyone with a starched shirt, or polished boots, I'm sorry.

Well look there... http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=204428 The ad has been changed. Not so confident in their numbers? Or catching flack over the ad? Or maybe their legal team said no way...you know with implied warranty and all....

Tr0y - I will agree with you about if you grew up on a farm or ranch and have made a living doing it...at one point and time you have loaded something way past the intended point. But we also have done so knowing exactly what we were doing, what are limits were, and how far we were pushing our luck.

That ad should have been pointed out for the same reason that we would all point out a scam. It was at best misleading and to a first time uninformed buyer looks great. Until they realize what they have gotten into once they have loaded it with water and four horses and tack and feed and their kids so they can go trail riding for the weekend.

That ad should have been pointed out for the same reason that we would all point out a scam. It was at best misleading and to a first time uninformed buyer looks great. Until they realize what they have gotten into once they have loaded it with water and four horses and tack and feed and their kids so they can go trail riding for the weekend.

Tresvolte... That's the exact reason why I started this thread.... We, that pull and haul all the time could probably use that trailer with a half ton truck and get along OK, being that we know the truck and our own limitations.... But there's alot of folks out there that would have read that ad, bought the trailer loaded it for the big camping trip and soon gotten themselve in trouble going down a hill, rounding a curve a little too fast, trying to stop, etc. I seen several wrecks waiting to happen, pass me heading north on I-95 last weekend. Check out some of those fifth wheel campers being pulled behind the 1500/150 trucks. 

The various threads concerning this latest posting, graphically illustrates the value of this forum. Within its membership, are knowledgeable people who "have  been there and done it". They are aware of advertising that exaggerates facts to promote a sale. They know what is safe, what isn't and what they can get away with doing.

With this collective knowledge and experience, people who try to make absurd statements, will quickly be called out for their remarks. The novices who have joined to learn, will be quickly told what is truthful and what isn't. Big brother in this case, has their backs.

We are fortunate to belong to such a group. There are many members who consistently go out of their way to help others. In this case a potential purchaser won't experience the heartache of realizing that his new combined rig is unlawful, dangerous to both his and his family's health, and a waste of a great deal of money.

Gard

Hmmm Criminal, I would doubt it. And don't think it should be.

But it is.

Ignorance of the law will not help you escape procution if you injure or kill someone.  You are responsible for your equipment and not everyone understands DOT regs and depend on the dealers to explain the law.  I try not to depend on anyone but many people trust that the dealers know what they are talking about.

<....don't know about the automotive latches. My guess is the divider latches.>

Yes, that refers to the divider latches. These are, in my opinion, the best latches I have ever seen on a divider. Very easy to use and will open easily with weight against them.