I am looking for a new trailer. I want an 8ft LQ in it. Are Kiefer Builts good trailers? What are some of the other brands that are good. Also, the steel frame with aluminum skin is that good or bad. Any help would be apriciated.
Posted 2005-05-24 1:40 PM (#25584 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 247 Location: La Crosse, WI - God's Country
We've got a 4H 8' LQ Genesis (aluminum) trailer. Love it. Very well made, sturdy, hauls like a dream. We considered Featherlite, Exiss, others as well. Kiefer Built seemed to have the right combination of features, quality, and value.
I considered the steel frame aluminum trailers but opted for the "all aluminum" for anti-corrosion and potential resale perception. Bad? Not bad - just different. Each construction has its potential good and bad points. I'd just come off of a leaky Bison, so I chose to avoid trailers that I thought could have rust/leak problems.
Posted 2005-05-24 2:41 PM (#25589 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 40 Location: Missouri
The INTEGRITY are really good trailers! We've been very pleased with them and the manufacturer is great to work with! That says a lot about a company! The INTEGRITY have been around for about five or six years...maybe a little longer, however the owner has been involved in trailer manufacturing for almost 25 yrs and I believe started out as an engineer. They put a lot of thought into making a "structurally sound" & safe trailer and it shows in the quality.....especially in the floor system & welds. Everyone I've talked to that has an INTEGRITY has nothing but good things to say about them.
Posted 2005-05-24 3:00 PM (#25593 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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I'm on my 3rd 4star. I love them and we've never had a problem with anything. (knock on wood! ) We considered Bloomer, Platinum and 4 star and went with 4star because the dealer is closer and has good service. C&C's are nice trailers too.
Posted 2005-05-24 3:03 PM (#25594 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 222 Location: Kaufman, Texas
I purchased a 9' SW LQs Integrity from Trailer Depot in OKC last Summer. They do the JAG conversions there. I have used mine many times and love it. Recently returned from a week long trip in Arkansas and Oklahoma. Always recieve lots of compliments on the trailer on appearance and how well built it is everywhere I have been. If the Keifer & Integrity are about the same price, go with the Integrity. You can also do a search on both trailers as they have been discussed in other posts.
Posted 2005-05-24 4:24 PM (#25600 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posted 2005-05-24 4:52 PM (#25604 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 455 Location: Ontario - east of TO
I did a lot of research when I bought and settled on a CM... for me it was the best bang for the buck and there is a dealer near by. I love mine and am very happy with my purchase.
Posted 2005-05-24 8:32 PM (#25615 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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IMO- what it all comes down to is- what do you need, what you want ( that is very different from a need) and how much you have to spend. most trailer brands are pretty darned good but, of course, you'll always fine someone who had a problem and ,will therefore swear off and swear about, that brand. It cannot be helped.
Otherwise, ask people about their trailer and dealer- which can sometimes be more important. Don't compair apples to oraanges such as a 25k bison to a 45k 4-star ( just an expamle) I should think one could get alot more luxury and stuff with a 45k trailer so you have to NOT say gee that bison was skimpy.
I bought a used Exiss that fit what I needed ( all ally,LQ) with what I wanted ( midtack) and i could afford it. I would have considered other brands, i was not married to the Exiss sticker, but it just so happens that is what I ended up with and I am satisfied. Is it without blemish or faults> Nope but its close enough for me.
Posted 2005-05-24 8:44 PM (#25617 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 31 Location: new richmond, wi
We also bought a CM within the past few weeks and are very happy with it. We looked all winter at so many different trailers it made my head pin. All aluminum is tough to beat and worth the money in the long run. I consider the CM to be a top line or near top line trailer. There are other comparable rigs out there. The Keifer and Exiss are excellent middle of the range trailers, great buys for the buck. After getting so tired of looking at so many trailers, I finally settled on two items to look at and weed out my selections.
1. Get down on your hands and knees and look at the girders or cross beams under the unit. How close to each other and how heavy? You'd be surprised at the corners that are cut to save money here.
2. Drop one of the horse windows to just below horizontal and try to twist it diagonally. If they've spent big money on heavy windows, the quality probably flows throughout the rig. If you can flex the windows easily, they have saved money and gone lighter duty in other areas also.
With these techniques you can tackle a large trailer show and quickly narrow your search down to a few trailers and then concentrate on the features you want.
Posted 2005-05-25 7:12 AM (#25640 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 634 Location: Tipton, IN
Window hinges can actually make or break a deal for friends ofours that rodeo full time for a living. They were offered a sponsor trailer, for $0, and turned it down because of piano hinged windows that flexed. One of their horses has a tendancy to rmove cheap windows, so the always go with heavy duty hinges. The integrity my buddy just bought has about the beefiest window hinges you can get.
Posted 2005-05-25 8:35 AM (#25646 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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You know the window thing has TOTALLY opened my eyes. The trailer I have now (silver star) I had for just two weeks when an itchy horse tore off the window! I had NO IDEA that could happen until then. I also look for the sturdyness of the windows. The door latches are a big one for me also. I check how the saddle racks are attached also. All this stuff I have had problems on the trailer I own. To me ventalation in the horse part is a must. I do not like those itty bitty bus windows. They don't provide enough air. I live in Louisiana. It's hot here year around.
Thanks for all the great tips!
By the way what does the underneath of an Integrity look like? Is it sturdy?
Posted 2005-05-25 11:19 AM (#25656 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 40 Location: Missouri
The underneath floor system on the INTEGRITYs places the cross members on 5" centers---probably one of the best reinforced floors in the industry. Most aluminum trailers have crossmembers on 10" to 15" centers which is still good, but INTEGRITY goes that extra mile to make it even better & safer.
Posted 2005-05-25 12:56 PM (#25661 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Please don't bite my head off for this statement, but this is what I have been told.
I always look for joist (floor, wall & roof) 16" O.C. (on center) because that is the standard building code. I have been told that the flooring system that has joist placed closer together is not always better. It is because the floor need that much more support than others. I am sure that is not the solution on all joist placed closer together and I am sure it also doesn't mean that if you see them placed 2 feet apart the floor is strong. Just watch out on things such as joist placing. Closer isn't always better. It could just mean the floor is heavier or not as sturdy so the extra support is needed.
Posted 2005-05-25 8:18 PM (#25680 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Posts: 31 Location: new richmond, wi
Kelly, I too hope no one bites your head off over a simple trailer discussion.
16" centers are great on a house where you have 2X8 or 2X10 girders on edge sitting still on a cement foundation. For something that's gonna be jigging on down road on 2" or 3" I-beams, you'll get longer life out of the closer together dimensions like in the Intergrity, CM, 4Star, etc.
Posted 2005-05-26 6:17 AM (#25699 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Paint Paddy, I so agree. I guess I typed things different then I was thinking. I hope everyone just understands what I was pointing out. I did not mean to actually compare the horse trailer to a house, but to compare the purpose of having the studs placed closer together. The pros & cons of it and what the dealer is trying to tell you. (dealer may say, hey look at this extra support but in reality he should be saying, hey the floor is so heavy and not as secure they needed the extra support). Sorry if I messed that up and made it sound different.
Posted 2005-05-28 10:48 AM (#25780 - in reply to #25604) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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I'm really glad to hear you like your CM Trailer. My husband and I just bought one in February but we haven't taken a trip yet. It's a used 2002 3 horse with 5' living qtrs. We're looking to buy a mattress but it seems they are all 8" thick or more. I would think this would make it very difficult as far as headroom is concerned (my husband is 6'3"). We could get a thinner mattress in foam, but would really rather get a regular mattress. Do you have any suggestions?
Posted 2005-05-28 12:24 PM (#25786 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
Location: N. Texas
As far as steel frame w/ aluminum skin. You need to be aware of this: Corrosion due to steel and aluminum being dissimiliar WILL cause corrosion. On the flip side, the steel frame creates an excellent base.
Posted 2005-05-29 7:32 PM (#25809 - in reply to #25577) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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I recently checked out a brand new rig a friend of mine bought because of the joists being closer than on comparably priced trailers. When my 50lb daughter steps on the floor it "pops", kinda like a soda can. I sure hope it's safe, but it doesn't seem very strong to me. So, yes, check out the joists in combination with how well built the floor is. Maybe there is a need to place more joists in some of those trailers! Also, this particular trailer has one of the spray on floorings so you can't check the floor easily... Worrisome to me.
Posted 2005-05-31 12:52 AM (#25861 - in reply to #25780) Subject: RE: trailer questions
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Originally written by shearela on 2005-05-28 10:48 AM
I'm really glad to hear you like your CM Trailer. My husband and I just bought one in February but we haven't taken a trip yet. It's a used 2002 3 horse with 5' living qtrs. We're looking to buy a mattress but it seems they are all 8" thick or more. I would think this would make it very difficult as far as headroom is concerned (my husband is 6'3"). We could get a thinner mattress in foam, but would really rather get a regular mattress. Do you have any suggestions?
There are places who make custom mattresses, I would suggest trying that route. A local one advertises prices that aren't really all that expensive.