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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2007-05-30 6:45 PM (#61513)
Subject: Haggling


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Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but I've never bought a trailer before, much less a new trailer, and I'm not quite certain how it works. Is buying a new trailer is like buying a car? Should I expect to haggle with the dealer? Any tips on this?
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-05-30 6:50 PM (#61514 - in reply to #61513)
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Originally written by hma on 2007-05-30 6:45 PM

Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but I've never bought a trailer before, much less a new trailer, and I'm not quite certain how it works. Is buying a new trailer is like buying a car? Should I expect to haggle with the dealer? Any tips on this?


It can be, it depends on you and the dealer.

Here's a tip; Don't buy "in season".
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Maximizer
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2007-05-30 9:29 PM (#61525 - in reply to #61513)
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Yep, don't go in there and pay full price.  You will walk out the door with Sucker written on your forehead.. You may not be able to talk them down several thousand dollars but you will get them down some..  I am currently in the marker for a trailer and looking at the same place my neighbor just bought his.  They came down $800 on his which is decent..



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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-05-30 9:38 PM (#61526 - in reply to #61513)
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The higher the list price...the more haggle room there is...
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2007-05-30 10:21 PM (#61529 - in reply to #61526)
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You can hagglal for thing you want in the trailer or other stuff more lights ect
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hma
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2007-05-31 12:25 PM (#61564 - in reply to #61513)
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Excellent, thanks for the tips, all!
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Reg
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-05-31 4:43 PM (#61573 - in reply to #61564)
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At this time of year they have the story line that they can't keep them in stock, that if you don't put a hundred down to hold it somebody will snatch it up within the hour, etc.
If you don't HAVE TO HAVE IT in the next month or three at least wait for the end of season sales and various expo deals. Spend THIS season kicking tires, learning brands and models, learning to walk away from sales people.
OK, for the next few months maybe they'll let you walk away very easily, but get some game practice and when they're hungry you'll be used to their routine (hopefully).

{I bought a ~190 MPH motorcycle in New Hampshire 2 days before Christmas.
Got a GREAT deal, and LOTS of attention from the sales guy.}
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kcnyellow
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2007-05-31 5:55 PM (#61576 - in reply to #61513)
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I think Reg says it all here.  I did exactly as he said, I looked a every trailer I possibly could, narrowed my choices to a couple of brands, and then waited for a terrific deal.  Education is the key.... and good luck.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-05-31 6:50 PM (#61578 - in reply to #61573)
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When is the off season for horse trailers?  I guess when it's snowing?
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greyhorse
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2007-05-31 8:13 PM (#61580 - in reply to #61513)
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When it's snowing or when it's 105 degrees, basically whenever people don't use horses much wherever you live.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-05-31 9:36 PM (#61584 - in reply to #61580)
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 In S. Texas if you don't ride when its  105 you don't ride for half the year.  June, July, Aug its normal to be 99 at midnight.  Soooo glad to be in NM now.
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2007-06-01 8:55 AM (#61594 - in reply to #61584)
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Reg is right what I also did was bring a pad and pen and write down everything that I liked about the trailer expo  are a great place to do this I spent the whole day doing shopping and look at all the trailer that was there
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ROPE14U
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-06-01 4:16 PM (#61627 - in reply to #61513)
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Haggling is half the fun of buying something......... if someone wanted a nickel for something I would try and get it for 4 cents.......call me weird, but that's part of the fun of buying!!
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dallye
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2007-06-05 12:45 AM (#61811 - in reply to #61513)
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I would love to have a few trailer dealers jump on this question!  The majority of trailer dealers are not car dealers,  they do not mark trailers up like cars.  We all need to keep in mind that these businesses are just trying to keep their doors open.  Just to inform you trailer dealers do not get the benefits that car dealers do( huge hold backs, rebates, free flooring ect. ) No business can survive on selling a trailer at cost, or $100.00 over! Everyone has a choice to purchase a trailer, they can except the price or walk!  Just a little advice on expo and trade shows, you pay aprox. 5-10% more at those shows, they are a great place to see different models, but your not saving.  Go and support your local dealer, also another piece of advice,when you go into a dealership and act rude and demanding, you will get less, if you go in and be proffessional, and merely work with your salesman, you'll get much farther.  You can certainly get a good deal during he winter if your looking at a last years model, but remember that there's not a great selection on year old models.  Just another side note, with fuel prices and steel prices increasing most dealers will do all they can possibily do to earn your business!  Happy Trails...

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djesse
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 8:45 AM (#61817 - in reply to #61513)
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Trailer sales people are there to take your money. They don't care about you or your horse just your money. The mark up is huge and there is plenty of room to haggle. They bring in so much money it's sick. You need to go in there and beat them out of a good deal. Tell them what you want and what you want to pay and take nothing less. Mark up is approx. 35-40%
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Sporty
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2007-06-05 9:01 AM (#61820 - in reply to #61817)
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You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. If trailer dealers were making 35%-40%, wouldn't everyone be in the trailer business? As stated earlier, there are no big hold backs and back end money like the car dealers. Make a smart, educated buying decision. Offer a fair and reasonsable price for the trailer, and I am sure that most dealers will be willing to do business with you.
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st_pinetree
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2007-06-05 9:09 AM (#61821 - in reply to #61513)
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I just bought a LQ trailer for the first time.  Here's what I found during my search.  MSRP on a new trailer appears to be around 20% over dealer cost. (the dealers I was working with would all be considered "small", given a really big dealership they may get a slightly better factory price)  Around here, (MT) most new trailers seem to have asking prices somewhere around 8-10% less than MSRP to start with, leaving less than 10% to work with.  All that being said, I found a "demo" trailer, 2007 model that had been used to go to trailer shows, and had hauled horses around some.  The dealer made me a deal as if it were a brand new trailer, full warranty etc.  I got it for 22% less than the best deal I could work out ordering one just like it.  I also got a fair trade-in price on my old trailer in the process. 

So, how much haggling did this deal take?  No matter how hard I tried to haggle, I couldn't get this trailer for any less than the first round of price negotiations.  (spent over a week trying) That was fine, I feel like I got a good deal anyway and I'm happy.   Good luck.

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3yrHitch2Bumper
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2007-06-05 9:14 AM (#61822 - in reply to #61817)
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whoa now nelly !!!.look out, she is about to buck!!!....how come when a guy is trying to support his family and his children he is a crook !!! EARNING someone's business is a lost art sometimes, but I have worked in the car business and the trailer business is NO WHERE NEAR the car business so PLEASE do not put a trailer sales associate in the "snake" group....Every dealership has their our philosophy...some good , some bad....I say try to deal with a factory direct dealership...someone that is owned by the factory...sometimes that mind set is better than the dealer out there trying to make a buck...We call "hagglin" ..."the game"...."the game" has been around since all of our grandparents and before...it is part of the process...some people like it, some don't..AMERICA PEOPLE!!!...Go over seas and try to play "the game"...they will just shoot ya!!!...Retail is retail and wholesale is wholesale....all that matters is the bottom line...play with the numbers however you please...the bottom line is the only thing that matters..."the game" is played many different ways by many different sales people...WORRY ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE and you should always come out OK....Mark ups also depend on the dealer....some could be more than the others....GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS FIGHTING FOR US SO WE CAN "PLAY THE GAME"....HAPPY SELLING !!!!!!!!!!!!
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rockinthetrails
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 11:54 AM (#61830 - in reply to #61513)
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I speak here now for myself as a dealer that we ARE NOT OUT TO GET YOU!!!!! not saying that there isnt a dealer in this country that will "GET YOU" but thats not how us long term dealers are still able to "PLAY THE GAME" if we were "getting people" we surely would not still be in business... If a dealer has good customer support, a good service garage, informed and up to date staff then yes it take ALOT and I mean ALOT of money to be there for you. Like some of the other members have said, RV, horse trailer sales are not like car sales we dont get rebates from manufactures and kick backs. I dont sell anything on our lot that anyone has to have to get to work or take the kids to school or anything like that. If you come to our lot you are here looking for something to either fulfill a life time dream or to go and spend quality time with your family or to make your life and your horses a little easier. With that said I will say this about haggling everyone does it and I know this so therefore I as a sales person am prepared for that and I will give the anyone the best deal I possible can and still be here for them in a year when they need our service department to warrenty a fault fridge or A/C so they can be comfortable on the next camping trip with thier family. So keep these things in mind when you visit your local dealer... FOR THOSE WHO KNOW IT ALL--- if you think you can do a better job go get anywhere from 1-5 million dollar line of credit, go buy a million dollar piece of dirt and build a million dollar building so you can help people make thier dreams come true and then deal with people that seems to bring you down constantly and run your name into the dirt that you spent a long time planning and saving and not taking a pay check to buy!!!!

Thats all I got to say about that

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djesse
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 12:16 PM (#61831 - in reply to #61513)
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Just to let you know, I am employed at a trailer dealership, so don't tell me what I already know. They are after your money and nothing else.
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3yrHitch2Bumper
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2007-06-05 1:03 PM (#61832 - in reply to #61831)
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Jess.....you fit the "A" typical stereotype salesperson profile.......too bad.....someday you will learn >>>>>"Sales is a balance between knowing when to talk and knowing when NOT to talk" .......

Customers are not given, they are EARNED.....what they giveth, they can taketh away the next time they need something....."repeat business"....repeat business does not usually come to someone who is only out for the money.....people are not that stupid in today's world expecially an educated trailer shopper......SO....keep it up Jess.....we will see you at McD's...

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djesse
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 1:28 PM (#61835 - in reply to #61513)
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I'm not saying it's a good thing. I am just telling you what I see everyday. I don't agree with the sales people here. I think customer service should be above the profit line I just don't see it here. So that's where I get off saying they(trailer sales people) are just about the $$
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PaintPony
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2007-06-05 2:19 PM (#61836 - in reply to #61513)
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I don't post much but I had to jump in here. I resent the implication (and I'm not a dealer by any means) that all dealers are sharks out to get you. There are a wide variety of dealers out there with a wide variety of markups. Why else does the identical trailer cost thousands more at one place than at another? But we now have this wonderful tool called the Internet and more specifically this message board/advertising site. Of course dealears are looking to take you money...they are in the business of selling. But the smart ones, especially the web savvy ones, know that they'd better mind their p's and q's after the sale too or they will loose tons of customers to bad publicity. It's a very competitive market and they are going to do everything they can, within reason, to sell you a trailer AND to keep you happy after the sale. The dealer I bought my trailer from has jumped through hoops on multiple occassions to keep me happy after the sale. Repeat customers and reputation is key in this new era of online shopping and my dealer's smart enough to know that. Did I haggle til I was blue in the face, YEP. Did it save me lots compared to other dealers - YEP! Did I enjoy every minute of it? YEP! Now Randy might not have, but I had a ball. Kudos to Randy Burmaster of Ken Feagin, who just recently, 4 years after the sale, went out of his way to keep me happy yet again. Poor fella didn't know what he was getting into when he replied to my first email inquiry all those years ago!

You can only be shafted if you let yourself be - there's to much information only fingertips away. Do your reasearch, get references on the dealers you've narrowed it down to and SHOP! Don't buy the first thing you see! It's easy to get references for the dealers out there, the ones on the web anyway. Do your homework and find one that will stand behind their product as much as possible after the sale. Then haggle as much as you can. It never hurts to ask and they can always say no. I personally love nothing better than to get something as cheap as I possibly can. Get quotes from multiple dealers on the same trailer and use that to get the best price. Sometimes your dealer of choice can match the price, sometimes they cant. They all have different overhead expenses and have different factors figuring into how much they need to make. In the price game though, don't forget to take into account the dealer's reputation & location. It's not all about the bottom $ and sometimes the trailer a little closer to home can be a better deal, even if it costs a little more.  That's just my $.02 worth, for whatever good it is :-)

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Covert Cowboy
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 3:01 PM (#61839 - in reply to #61513)
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If you read no other post in this thread read Dallye's. This person, despite not being in the trailer industry, has a very good grasp on how things are done. An automotive dealer and a trailer dealer are two VERY different things.

In addition, djesse, you may work at a trailer dealership but you CLEARLY do not work in sales. You show me a trailer that sells for 35-40% profit or is even marked up that much and I will quit my job to come work for that company because they obviously know something that everyone else doesn't know! You're simply wrong. There is a pretty standard mark up on trailers across the board. And as was stated by previous posters that knew what they were talking about, it all depends on the dealership as to how much room you have to negotiate. Sometimes its not about how much you can get off of the sticker price... its about customer service.

Edited by Covert Cowboy 2007-06-05 3:09 PM

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rockinthetrails
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-06-05 3:49 PM (#61841 - in reply to #61513)
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THANK YOU Covert Cowboy and Dallie's ...... In a perfect world for the salesmen we would make 40% but now days it seems that its a more perfect world for the educated buyer.... Even though I dont make alot of money on each trailer that just means that I have to earn that much more trust with each customer so they will hopefully send thier friends to come check what deals I have to offer. FOOD FOR THOUGHT::: I dont know why others make the decision to be in the sales business or the horse trailer sales business for that matter, but I do know I dont just do it for the money! I get to learn from far more people than I could ever imagine here at this dealership and the wonderful people that I get to meet its just amazing and that is over half the reason that I personally choose to the job I do. To be quite honest yeah sometimes people can hagle to much, but haggleing is the way this Biz works and it is fun... So I say bring it on, thats why I keep a pencil sharpener on my desk!!!!
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