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Safet
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-03-09 1:13 PM (#117374)
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Does anyone know of a link for me to find out what the exact towing capacity is for my truck? The door tag is worn away. It's a 1999 F350 4x4, 7.3L diesel, third door (or half door?) and regular size truck bed, single rear wheels. I'm trying to figure out how much trailer I can actually safely haul around using my truck. Thank you.
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Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2010-03-09 1:45 PM (#117377 - in reply to #117374)
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http://www.trailerlife.com/images/downloads/99towingguide.pdf
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Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-03-09 1:51 PM (#117378 - in reply to #117374)
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Wow, thanks!
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Safet
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Posted 2010-03-09 2:03 PM (#117379 - in reply to #117378)
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Wow, thanks! I think I found my truck. So...how do I figure out the axle ratio? F-350 SuperCab 4WD SD SRW 7.3 TD** 13,400a,d,g a Requires automatic transmission and towing package.d Requires 3.73:1 axle ratio.g Fifth-wheel towing.
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Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2010-03-09 2:44 PM (#117383 - in reply to #117374)
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The easiest way is to call your local Ford dealer and talk with the service manager.  Give him your VIN and he should be able to pull up the specs.  I would assume that all the 7.3's will have the same axel ratio.  It most likely is the 3.73.  More knowledgeable people than I on this site might be able to tell you with more certainty.
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2010-03-09 2:55 PM (#117384 - in reply to #117383)
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Originally written by nobodyimportant on 2010-03-09 2:44 PM

The easiest way is to call your local Ford dealer and talk with the service manager.  Give him your VIN and he should be able to pull up the specs.  I would assume that all the 7.3's will have the same axel ratio.  It most likely is the 3.73.  More knowledgeable people than I on this site might be able to tell you with more certainty.

 

If it is a single rear wheel then it is likely a 3-73.  Dual rear wheel will likely be a 4-11 Although it could have been ordered with 3-73's.  It would simpler to reference the VIN.

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dgeesaman
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-13 7:24 AM (#117528 - in reply to #117383)
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Originally written by nobodyimportant on 2010-03-09 2:44 PM

The easiest way is to call your local Ford dealer and talk with the service manager.  Give him your VIN and he should be able to pull up the specs.  I would assume that all the 7.3's will have the same axel ratio.  It most likely is the 3.73.  More knowledgeable people than I on this site might be able to tell you with more certainty.


That's easiest but what's most certain is to crawl under and read the metal tag on the axle. On mine I recall seeing the "73" among the numbers on that tag, indicating it was a 3.73.

Dave
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Safet
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-03-13 9:41 AM (#117533 - in reply to #117374)
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Maybe I'll crawl under my truck today and look.
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Painted Horse
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Posted 2010-03-13 9:46 AM (#117534 - in reply to #117374)
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If it's the Single Rear Wheels.  It WILL be the 3:73 unless somebody changed it after it left the factory.

The only option Ford offered on the diesel Single Rear Wheel configuration was the Limited Slip vs the Non- Limited slip.

You could get the other axle rations in the Duallys, But not the Single.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-13 10:22 AM (#117535 - in reply to #117374)
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When we bought our SRW SD, 4 WD with the limited slip differential, we were offered a choice of 3.73 or 4.10 gear ratios. We chose the 3.73 and have not been disappointed. At 70 mph, the engine is showing about ~1800 RPM, a perfect cruising speed.
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Safet
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Posted 2010-03-13 10:30 AM (#117536 - in reply to #117534)
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Painted Horse! Wish I read this before I crawled under the truck with camera. I took some pictures of what I found under the truck. What do these mean? One is a metal tag bolted on to the dif casing (S 409 B 73 10 5 8C23). The other is on the axle (blue tag 409B. I'm going to try and attach two pictures, but those are the numbers in case it does not work.
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Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2010-03-13 12:56 PM (#117540 - in reply to #117535)
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Gard,

I think for pulling, my '99 Ford PSD would be better with the 4:10's.

Here's why. It has a sweet spot of about 2000 rpms. That is over 70 mph. The thing is if you tow around 65 mph (maybe 1600 rpm), just about any hill will drag you down causing it to downshift.

The 4:10's would allow for some more rpm...and I think the drivability wold improve....while towing. Empty? Hey, 3:54's would be nice....3:08 even better.

My '96 had 4:10's....not nearly the power of the '99, but I feel was better with the trailer.

Of course...your mileage may vary.

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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-13 2:42 PM (#117544 - in reply to #117540)
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The weight of your trailer and the terrain in which you are traveling, will determine how well your truck handles the load. If you have heavy equipment and many hills, the 4.10 ratio would be an excellent choice.

Our smaller trailer only weighs 5600# empty, the larger 9,600#.

In western PA we have many hills. Before we installed the programmer, the transmission would often kick out of OD, when we ascended any of the steeper ones while towing the larger trailer. Now it's an infrequent event when that happens, even with the setting on the lowest "towing" selection. Now a hill results in the turbo giving a little more boost, the transmission remains in a torque converter lock up, and the cruise maintains the engine and road speeds.

The mods we have made have enhanced, an already competent towing vehicle. It has an adequate power range, absolute reliability, and is comfortable as well. We have no plans to replace it with a new $50k variant.

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Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2010-03-14 9:26 AM (#117565 - in reply to #117544)
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Upgrades....yes to them.

The biggest improvement was the 60hp pcm from DP Tuner. Jody changed the shift points around for me, and removed the added line pressure command to the trans. It is way more drivable now, than in stock dress.

Also installed a 4" turbo back exhaust. Also upgraded the trans to a Monster Box built by Greg Evans.

So yeah I hear you about having no desire to spend some 50k plus on somethng to replace this. And in fact, if I have to, I doubt I'll replace it with a pick-up. I'll find a used International or Freightliner...just for a dedicated tow vehicle...which is pretty much what the Ford is now.
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-14 5:33 PM (#117577 - in reply to #117536)
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Originally written by Safet on 2010-03-13 10:30 AM

Painted Horse! Wish I read this before I crawled under the truck with camera. I took some pictures of what I found under the truck. What do these mean? One is a metal tag bolted on to the dif casing (S 409 B 73 10 5 8C23). The other is on the axle (blue tag 409B. I'm going to try and attach two pictures, but those are the numbers in case it does not work.



The tag on the diff casing indicates a 3.73 ratio open differential, 10.5" Sterling type.

Dave
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Safet
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Posted 2010-03-14 7:57 PM (#117583 - in reply to #117374)
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Dave, 

Thank you, although I have no idea what it means, except for the 3.73 part! 

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Posted 2010-03-14 10:18 PM (#117597 - in reply to #117374)
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The motor and drive shaft will turn 3.73 times for every revolution of the axles, when the torque converter is locked. It is not a limited slip differential

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Safet
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-03-14 10:24 PM (#117598 - in reply to #117597)
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Originally written by gard on 2010-03-14 8:18 PM

The motor and drive shaft will turn 3.73 times for every revolution of the axles, when the torque converter is locked. It is not a limited slip differential

Thanks, gard, but what is "open differential, 10.5" Sterling type" ?  I am confused!  Also, how will this affect my truck's towing?

 

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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-03-14 10:46 PM (#117600 - in reply to #117598)
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Originally written by Safet on 2010-03-14 11:24 PM

Originally written by gard on 2010-03-14 8:18 PM

The motor and drive shaft will turn 3.73 times for every revolution of the axles, when the torque converter is locked. It is not a limited slip differential

Thanks, gard, but what is "open differential, 10.5" Sterling type" ?  I am confused!  Also, how will this affect my truck's towing

An open differential means It is not a limited slip differential. Sterling is a supplier/manufacturer of Ford axle parts. A non limited slip differential will spin one tire that is in poor traction conditions, and not supply torque to the opposing axle even it were on bare concrete.

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Posted 2010-03-14 10:55 PM (#117601 - in reply to #117374)
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Gard,

Is this good or bad for towing?  Thank you.

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Posted 2010-03-14 11:21 PM (#117603 - in reply to #117374)
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Bad

A non limited slip differential will spin one tire that is in poor traction conditions, and not supply torque to the opposing axle even it were on bare concrete.

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Posted 2010-03-14 11:54 PM (#117604 - in reply to #117603)
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Originally written by gard on 2010-03-14 9:21 PM

Bad

A non limited slip differential will spin one tire that is in poor traction conditions, and not supply torque to the opposing axle even it were on bare concrete.

Well, hopefully the 4wd will help out if we get stuck.  So far, I've really liked my truck (Ford F350 SD 4x4 7.3L d).  We had the turnover hitch put in last year, a plug added in the side wall of the truck bed, plus had Linex sprayed on the bed.  I hope we can add a gooseneck horse trailer this year.  My husband had some special type of transmission installed, although I have not noticed any improvement on performance.  Maybe that will be realized when we actually pull a loaded gooseneck.  Maybe we'll discover we need an extra leaf or timbrens....who knows?

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