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Barbwire
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-02 4:45 PM (#112727)
Subject: 8' wide trailers



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The tralier I have now is 7' wide with no living quarters and I have been entertaining the idea of having a 8' wide trailer with LQ being my next purchase.

I'd like to have the extra room but I'm a bit worried about driving something that wide.  What are some of the pros and cons of having an 8' wide trailer? Are they tough to navigate?

 



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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-11-02 4:51 PM (#112728 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers




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Both a 7' trailer and an 8' trailer will be on the same 102" axles. An 8' wide can be harder to see around, but will still track the same as a 7' wide trailer. I enjoy the added space it gives in my LQ and the width does not bother me. Some people are more comfortable with a 7'6" wide trailer because it is easier to see around.
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Spin Doctor
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2009-11-02 4:57 PM (#112729 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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Make sure you have a good set of "towing" mirrors that allow to see down the side of the trailer. The most noticable effects are not seeing your tires as easy, not being able to see directly behind you, and the added wind resistance as most LQ have more of a square nose. You will have a little more fender on the inside of the trailer in the horse box so plan accordingly. We put the smaller horses in the 2nd and 3rd stall in a 4 horse. Other than that...

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BlazingCreekBar
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2009-11-02 5:27 PM (#112732 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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I love my 8"w and 7'6 tall.   We added pedestal mount amber / red lights, similar item here http://www.optronicsinc.com/trailer4.htm

I like the amber side as it lights up when I brake or will flash when I turn it.  I find myself relying on the pedestal light as a key indicator of the back of my trailer.  And I have yet to rip one off :)



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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2009-11-02 10:19 PM (#112745 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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Ditto on the towing mirrors. We upgraded to an 8' wide 7'6" tall last year. Love the space. We can walk around each other easily, or one can be sitting on the couch and the other at the sink, stove or fridge without tripping on the other. Wind resistance difference is minimal but it is harder to see around.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-11-02 11:01 PM (#112748 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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For us,  7' wide trailers work well. We enjoy using the running boards to stand on, when opening the drop down windows; we have no wheel well intrusions within the stall areas; we have no need of a dually truck nor extension mirrors that stick out well past the width of the truck.

We prefer a longer narrower LQ, rather than a shorter wide one. In the same amount of sq footage floor space, this affords more storage and counter space, longer furniture, as well as a larger fridge and bathroom. Both of our LQ trailers are 7' wide by choice.

A 7 1/2' wide trailer would be an excellent compromise, a width that was not commonly available when we purchased our rigs.

Gard



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Ncatanz
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2009-11-03 6:55 AM (#112751 - in reply to #112727)
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I had the same concerns when I went from a 7ft wide to an 8ft wide.  As mentioned before they track the same because they both are on a 102 inch wide axle. But I think the 8ft wide makes a huge difference in the area in the LQ.  And I could not live with out all the junk I stuff in my mangers.  But backing up is a real test of skill and patience.  Luckily,  I drive forward 99% of the time
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Barbwire
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-03 7:02 AM (#112752 - in reply to #112727)
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Hmm, I hadn't thought about needing to use a dually to tow an 8' wide trailer. My truck isn't a dually and now I wonder if pulling a wider trailer would cause safety issues.

 For those of you with 8' trailers, what type of trucks do you have?

 

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-11-03 7:47 AM (#112753 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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Alot of 8' wide trailers being pulled with single wheel trucks... Aren't most of these RV trailers 96"-102" wide? Dually comes more into play with the pin weight of the trailer... Load carrying capacity, as well as stability are a plus with a dually. How big of a LQ (length) and how many horses you plan to haul as well as trailer axle placement and axle capacity, make a big difference in what TV is needed. It all adds up in a hurry.

I got a 7' wide 3 horse slant with 7' DR and a 4' mid tack, 33' total. Also have a 6 horse head to head, 8' wide, 35' length on the floor, 43' total. We pull both with a GM 3500 dually with a GVWR of 11400#.

I like an 8' wide trailer if I got to live in it for a week or so at the time.

 We don't need a dually for the 3 horse trailer and really need something a little more than a dually (MDT) for the 6H2H if we were to really load it.

 



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wyndancer
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2009-11-03 7:49 AM (#112754 - in reply to #112752)
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Originally written by Barbwire on 2009-11-03 7:02 AM

Hmm, I hadn't thought about needing to use a dually to tow an 8' wide trailer. My truck isn't a dually and now I wonder if pulling a wider trailer would cause safety issues.

 For those of you with 8' trailers, what type of trucks do you have?

 



Single rear here.

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tico
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2009-11-03 8:45 AM (#112756 - in reply to #112727)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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I went from a 2 horse bumper pull to a 3 horse straight load with 6ft. LQ with a small mid tack area that is also 8 ft. wide. I was very nervous about maybe having a hard time with driving the trailer around but it has been surprisingly easy. The trailer is 23 on the floor 31 foot overall. I tow with a one ton single rear wheel and have had no issues with it. My mirrors do extend out which is definitely needed. I also had the axles moved forward on the trailer. I hope that helps.
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Ncatanz
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2009-11-03 9:34 AM (#112758 - in reply to #112727)
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I pull a 3 horse slant,  6ft LQ 8ft wide trailer with a 2500 HD single wheel truck.  My trailer is 7,600 pounds empty.  I did end up installing air bags on the rear of the truck though.

 

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2009-11-03 9:58 AM (#112759 - in reply to #112727)
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We have a 3 horse with a 10' LQ and pull it with a Ford F350 CC SRW long box. The only difference is that you will want a long box truck or use a a hitch extender if you have an 8' wide trailer. We have the same truck with a 6 1/2' box that we always used with the 7' wide trailers, but found out (before anything happened) that with an 8' wide you could take out your rear window on a tight turn. I checked and could only turn at a 45 degree angle with the shorter box and can now turn 90 degrees. IMPORTANT!!!!
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brew26
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2009-11-03 11:19 AM (#112767 - in reply to #112748)
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Originally written by gard on 2009-11-02 11:01 PM

We prefer a longer narrower LQ, rather than a shorter wide one. In the same amount of sq footage floor space, this affords more storage and counter space, longer furniture, as well as a larger fridge and bathroom. Both of our LQ trailers are 7' wide by choice.

Gard

I'm confused on why you would say that you would rather have a longer narrow lq than a short wider one.  Unless I am reading this wrong your saying that if you bought a 8ft wide that your lq is going to get shorter....Why?  A 10ft short wall is a 10ft short wall isn't it.  A 28' on the floor is still going to messure 28' if the trailer is 8 or 7 wide.  I just don't understand why you think the lq is going to get shorter please expalin to me if I'm reading something wrong or missing something here.   

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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-11-03 11:35 AM (#112769 - in reply to #112727)
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Barbwire,  I pull with a Duramax, 2500 HD, SRW, long bed, with airbags.  One LQ trailer is 17 foot on the deck, 2H, 6.5 foot LQ, 7 Wide, 7 Tall.  The other LQ trailer is 24 foot on the deck, 3H, 10 foot LQ, 8 wide, 7.6 tall.  Both trailers pull equally well with this truck.  However, I second what other's have said.  If you are SRW, get airbags (or timbrens).  Get good tow mirrors (extendable with regular and convex), not just extendable mirrors. Check your pin weight. Like others have said, your pin weight will vary with your loading and axle placement.  I only have two horses, which I load in the 2 last stalls.  My hay and extra water are in the hayrack.  I like both 7 wide and 8 wide,  each for different reasons. I trail ride, and for a weekender I'll go most anywhere. For that application, I need a short 7 wide trailer so that I can carry 10 inches of portable corral panels on the outside of the trailer and still get into the trail heads.  For extended stays, where a person would actually spend time in the LQ, the 8 foot wide is really nice.  Also, the 8 wide generally bring more money at time of resale.  As far as pulling, to me, a trailer is a trailer, I don't really seem to see any difference in pulling 6, 7, or 8 wides.  If I notice a difference, it's in the length, the distance between the ball and the rear axles.  To me, this requires more of an adjustment than the width.  The only caution about the 8 wide is what any earlier poster said about turning.  Even though I have a long bed, I need to be more careful with the nose on the 8 wide.
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jim bob
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2009-11-03 11:37 AM (#112771 - in reply to #112727)
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We have a trailer that my wife considers, the "best of both worlds".  Our trailer is a 7' wide with a SLIDEOUT.  Going down the highway we are pulling a 7' wide trailer; but when she gets to the horse camp; she pushes the button, and she has the room that an 8' wide offers.  We also have mangers in our trailer.  We basically have every option on our trailer that the 8' wides offer.  She can get around with this trailer very well, and would rather pull this one instead of an 8' wide.  It is an all aluminum Bison Stratus that weighs less than most 8' wides the same length.

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Barbwire
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-03 12:02 PM (#112772 - in reply to #112727)
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Thank you everyone, for all of your responses. I guess what it comes down to is personal preference and what type of TV you  have.

I keep looking at the figures I found on the GMC site about my truck and I'm getting depressed. According to the charts, the maximum trailer/towing capacity I have if the trailer is a gooseneck are, 9,800# with an axle ratio of 3.73 and 12,300# with a ratio of 4.10. Seems to me that makes for a very small trailer. I'd only be hauling two horses at a time, most of the time just one.

I've looked at various trailer sites and most don't like an axle ratio and quite a few don't give weights for their trailers if they have a LQ package. All I want to know is, how much trailer can my GMC HD 2500 4WD long bed truck can handle. I'm pulling out my hair out, here!

 

 



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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2009-11-04 10:43 AM (#112796 - in reply to #112769)
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Originally written by horsecamper on 2009-11-03 11:35 AM

Barbwire,  I pull with a Duramax, 2500 HD, SRW, long bed, with airbags.  One LQ trailer is 17 foot on the deck, 2H, 6.5 foot LQ, 7 Wide, 7 Tall.  The other LQ trailer is 24 foot on the deck, 3H, 10 foot LQ, 8 wide, 7.6 tall.  Both trailers pull equally well with this truck.  .
Looks to me that horsecamper has the same truck.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-11-04 12:07 PM (#112797 - in reply to #112772)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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Originally written by Barbwire on 2009-11-03 1:02 PM

Thank you everyone, for all of your responses. I guess what it comes down to is personal preference and what type of TV you  have.

I keep looking at the figures I found on the GMC site about my truck and I'm getting depressed. According to the charts, the maximum trailer/towing capacity I have if the trailer is a gooseneck are, 9,800# with an axle ratio of 3.73 and 12,300# with a ratio of 4.10. Seems to me that makes for a very small trailer. I'd only be hauling two horses at a time, most of the time just one.

I've looked at various trailer sites and most don't like an axle ratio and quite a few don't give weights for their trailers if they have a LQ package. All I want to know is, how much trailer can my GMC HD 2500 4WD long bed truck can handle. I'm pulling out my hair out, here!

 

 

 

 

Is your truck gas or diesel? Big difference in towing capacities between a 6.0, 3.73 gasser and a Duramax Diesel/Allison, which also has 3.73 gears. You're looking at 6.0 gas figures...?

 

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my3horses
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2009-11-04 1:31 PM (#112798 - in reply to #112771)
Subject: RE: 8' wide trailers


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jim bob-sent you a p.m. asking about your Bison.
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Barbwire
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2009-11-04 2:27 PM (#112800 - in reply to #112727)
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My truck is a 2007 GMC Sierra long bed, extended cab HD work truck with 4WD a Vortec V8 6.0 L gas engine and an automatic Allis transmission. It has  a 3.73 rear axle ratio.

According to the GMC site is has a Max Trailer/Towing Capacity if 9,800# when pulling a gooseneck. That doesn't sound like very much when you add up the weight of a trailer, horses, feed, people, etc.



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