Posted 2008-07-11 10:04 PM (#87328 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 294 Location: Fort Worth, Tx
The treatment for proud flesh seems to very from horse to horse...I have always found that you have to keep the wound from healing too quickly. This can mean scraping off scab and proud flesh as it heals. I'm sure there are many people that will argue that but I had a mare that cut her leg down to the bone and every day for 3 months, I unwrapped the bandage and scrubbed the wound until the scabbing was gone. I then rewrapped it in a standing bandage with an ointment I got from an Amish guy..not entirely sure what was in it! But it worked. The mare that the vet had recommended euthanizing (it was a very, very bad cut) recovered with no lameness and what had been an 8 inch by 3 inch wound left a small white scar about 1/2 an inch long. I do recommend keeping the wound covered if possible to keep the healing process slow enough. Where is the wound?
Posted 2008-07-12 8:41 AM (#87338 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 368 Location: Georgia
I have heard that regular old meat tenderizer works. Don't know how or why but I have used it once with success, but the wound was not a huge wound. You could ask your Vet if this would be acceptable for your horse's wound.
Posted 2008-07-12 9:50 AM (#87342 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 192 Location: Hutto, TX
It also depends on where on the horse the proud flesh is and how big the wound is. I had a horse that couldn't get a scratch without trying to form a mound of proud flesh. Usually, I could get by with the daily scrubbing and making the edges bleed routine and then putting WHAT THE VET SAYS on the wound. Once, it got away from me and the vet gave me something to eat it away. That causes more scarring, but my other option was to have it surgically removed and go back to wrapping and scrubbing. Also, if the wound in indented, you usually don't want to put anything on that would prevent the flesh from filling in until it's "even" with the rest of the area. Get a vet to evaluate it if you have any doubts at all.
Posted 2008-07-12 7:27 PM (#87357 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 250 Location: AL
Thanks for the input. This is a gash that my horse got when kicking at another horse. There was a fence in between and evidently he kicked the fence. Only about an inch and a half long, but a bit deep. It has filled in ,but seems to be sticking out further now than it needs to be. Just want it to heal on up, but maybe it takes a while. He is not lame or favoring in it in any way, but every time that I wash it down and rub it, it bleeds some. I will consult my vet to see if I might need to do anything else. I just didn't want to be washing it and bothering it too much cause it continues to make it bleed.
Posted 2008-07-13 8:25 AM (#87370 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 192 Location: Hutto, TX
If the edges of the wound are not scrubbed enough to make them bleed, the skin can't grow over the wound. So, sounds like you are doing OK, but do consult your vet for the specifics of that particular wound and location.
Posted 2008-07-13 9:29 AM (#87373 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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The best products I've found for wound care (human or horse) I'm a nurse,is the Eclipse wound care products.
I had a gelding with a bad wire cut through his heel bulb into the hoof itself.We were using Eclipse spray,and when proud flesh began to develop I used the ointment for one day only,and ONLY on the edges of the proud flesh,not on the wound itself.One day was all it was needed.
These products were used on humans to heal bed sores and diabetic ulcers before a horse care line was developed and they are derived from platelets I believe.
It's the best I've ever used,and I've used a lot of stuff over the years.
Posted 2008-07-13 6:34 PM (#87396 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 294 Location: Fort Worth, Tx
I forgot about the Eclipse stuff...have heard very good reports on it. State Line Tack use to sell it, I'm sure you could get it from them or maybe Valley Vet, or a place like that.
Posted 2008-07-13 8:36 PM (#87405 - in reply to #87396) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Yes,Valley Vet is where I got it.Some of the larger farm stores may carry it also.It is made by Belumedex I believe,they have a good website about it.You really do have to watch getting the ointment anywhere other than on the proud flesh,however.Similar to putting Panafil on a diabetic ulcer on the healthy tissue,it will erode at it.
Posted 2008-07-13 9:22 PM (#87407 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 1205 Location: Arkansas
if you call Dr Jolly, I am sure you can get it from him etc. the Lacerum and Eclipse line are what are used there at Step Ahead on the wound study program. You use Eclipse on the piriphial edges of the wound and not on the proud flesh as it is such a marvelous growth stimulater, and you do not want the proud flesh to protrude beyond the ephiphiseal layer of the skin.
Posted 2008-07-13 10:41 PM (#87415 - in reply to #87407) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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That is what happened in the case of our gelding's heel/hoof injury.Not knowing exactly how Eclipse worked,because,our vet gave us some of the spray in a little WalMart bottle,we were spraying it down twice weekly and wrapping it with Kerlix and Coban wrap and putting a bell boot over it.Apparently it was stimulating the growth of the tissue so fast that it caused proud flesh.The ointment cleared it right up however,and I only had to use it once.Thereafter,(I had communicated with Belumedex) I did not bathe the wound so much with the spray.
Posted 2008-07-14 10:51 AM (#87431 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
Location: Central Arkansas
I swear by the product. It is the greatest thing since sliced bread! I have seen the wonderful work Dr Jolly does, first hand. I keep both the Wound Wash and the Eclipse in all the barns plus both of the horse trailers. Wonderful stuff!
Posted 2008-07-14 9:43 PM (#87454 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 560 Location: Mena, AR
Preparation-H works wonders. The cream, not the gel. Had a huge mound of proud flesh on the back side of the fetlock and ended up with a thumb nail size scar. Twice a day. Wish I had taken pictures.
Posted 2008-07-17 8:36 AM (#87598 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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We had a horse that got a back cut last year and developed a bad case of proud flesh. A friend recommended mixing equal parts of neosporin and hydrocortisone together and use it. It worked wonders.
Posted 2008-07-25 6:13 PM (#88282 - in reply to #87324) Subject: RE: proud flesh
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Posts: 58 Location: Foley, MO
Granulex spray works well, but DMSO works best. Be sure to wear latex gloves when you apply, and goggles just in case. It freezes at 65F, so keep it in a warm spot.
Apply 3 times per day...in about 3 days, the proud flesh is gone.
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