Posted 2009-10-15 11:54 AM (#111886) Subject: selling a horse
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I have been trying to sell a horse for maybe about a month. Anyway I had a lady come this week to look at her. She is a reg 16 yo arabian and I'm asking $1000.00 negotiable.
The lady comes gets on her to ride. Walks her a couple of minutes bumps her into a canter and complains she is too fast. Well I look dumb founded. She states I like horses who canter at the pace I can walk. Then she complained she had to keep contact right after she had cantered her toward the barn. She is only riding her in a no shank plain snaffle by the way.
In another minute she puts her daughter on there and walks with her and then turns her loose who rides her up and down with the reins hanging with no problem at all.
She states she needs some weight and I agree. No ribs show at all. She has high withers and she shows some age of being 16 and she is an Arabian.
She might need 100 lbs. She states well if she gains 100 lbs she might go crazy. Oh yeah they feed straight corn. I state I really doubt she will go crazy with 100 lbs of weight. She might if you feed straight corn. I am not a corn lover at all.
Well after they finish riding she offers me $600.00. I tell I can take it. Well we agree upon a price and I offer to deliver since she doesn't own a trailer. In the mean time I have someone call and I tell them the horse is sold.
Well I go up unsaddle tie the horse who has done absolutle nothing wrong and she walks up and tells me she has changed her mind.
So I later call the guy back who now is scared why this lady suddenly changes her mind and who is going to believe that just happened.
So not only did she not buy her she just cost me another prospect!
I am just speechless at what people think they can get for no money. This horse has been everywhere with no problems at all!
Anyway I hope she finds a $600.00 horse that only walks and lopes as fast as you can walk will go and do anything you ask etc etc etc. With the feeding program of straight corn.
Posted 2009-10-15 12:40 PM (#111890 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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You run into those kind of people everywhere. If you were selling pink widgits they would come and see and dicker, waste hours of your time, and then walk away. That is just the nature of the beast.
Posted 2009-10-15 2:06 PM (#111897 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Nothing is ever sold until cash is in hand. Just a lesson learned. If that happens again tell the person on the phone you are with someone and will call them back.
Posted 2009-10-15 10:36 PM (#111913 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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tell the person on the phone to come on (esp if they have a trailer!)
jmho, anyone who shows up without a trailer to look at a horse is not serious......
Sorry that happened to you....I had similar problems when trying to sell a reg qtr gelding......so finally took him to a reg qtr sale....as I was tired of people fiddle-ing around, such as trying to negotiate a price before even seeing the horse.....
Posted 2009-10-16 4:43 AM (#111921 - in reply to #111913) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Originally written by rose on 2009-10-15 10:36 PM
anyone who shows up without a trailer to look at a horse is not serious......
That's not TRUE. I looked at several horses all summer & never took my trailer with me. I finally found a mare that I really like. Thought about her for 48 hours, and called people that might know her owners. And then I bought her.
Posted 2009-10-16 9:43 AM (#111930 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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I think you should thanking your lucky stars that she didn't buy the horse. I would've been scared to death that they would've founder your horse feeding it corn.
Posted 2009-10-16 1:16 PM (#111937 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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I also consider a sale a sale when money changes hands especially if it involves someone I do not know. The buyer did alot of complaining about a horse they tried to buy as if they just talked the horse down to cut the price. I'd say its best for all the sale did not go through. No doubt the buyer would have been on the phone to you afterwards complaining about the horse.BTW arabians aren't know to be "thin" they aren't stocky but if the horse needs weight thats not a breed related matter.
Posted 2009-10-19 8:08 AM (#112044 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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What you described is one of the biggest reasons I want just about OUT OF HORSES.Better yet, that women buys the horse.Keeps it another 10 years or more and wants to RETURN it cause its old and doesn't want the expense or hassle of a old horse.I had that happen! That REALLY made my jaw drop!
Posted 2009-10-19 9:22 AM (#112052 - in reply to #112044) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Thank your lucky stars, she backed out. I would never sell a horse to someone like this.
Amen, a sale is only a "sale" when the cash is in your hand. I too would have told the other prospect to come look as long as you did not have the cash in your hands.
Posted 2009-10-19 12:08 PM (#112070 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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it depends on how far I have to go and if I pretty sure I'd buy the horse on bring the trailer. if its just a look/see and I didn't go really far, no trailer. But if I did my due diligence and the horse was over 200 miles away, sure bring the rig.
Posted 2009-10-20 11:48 AM (#112133 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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well i have been selling horses in virginia for several years and i have some of the best trail horses but these lookers always find problems or some reason not to buy when someone wants a good horse they will pay most people think because the local sales sell horses for 50. that they can manipulate you by cutting your horse so they can get it cheaper if your in the business you can tell also people use the horse for sale ad to try to scope you out just so they can come back and steal from you beware of potential buyers.
Posted 2009-10-20 12:09 PM (#112134 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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jmho, anyone who shows up without a trailer to look at a horse is not serious......
My opinion is No One should buy a horse at first look unless you want to take a chance at a sale barn.
Depending on the use, if it is a trail horse and behaves well at the owners place, request to have the horse trailered to a trail head to see how the horse behaves on the trail with unfamiliar horses.
Barrel Horse, WP, EP etc - go to a different barn and test it out.
Then vet check, even if the horse costs a couple hundred bucks. Save lots of arguements in the long run with previous owner on health conditions. Granted not all conditions can be diagnosed, but a soundness test is pretty reliable for most issues.
If you want to buy a horse on site and take a chance, then the sale barn is the way to go.
I will never sell a horse to someone on first look that comes with a trailer. Guess I just respect my horses too much to send them down the road without checking out the new owners and making sure that the horse and prospective owners are a good fit.
$600 is a pretty good deal on your end for a 16 year-old horse right now. You should be able to find another buyer if the horse is sound and broke, especially if a novice can ride her. She sounds like a nice mare to me that can canter off after a few minutes of warm up and not "blow" throught the bit. Hang in there, the right buyer will come along.
Posted 2009-10-20 2:20 PM (#112140 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Would I sell to someone who came along with the trailer? Of course, I would. Look- some people just want to be prepared to haul the horse home.If they rode the horse, asked good questions and had some experience there is no reason not to make the sale. A pre- purchase exam is only good the day of the exam, it cannot predict anything more unless a battery of blood tests are ordered and a $600 horse probably isn't getting that. Most people can perform a standard lameness exam themselves. Most really new people to the horse world would likely bring along a pal to help them out.
Posted 2009-10-20 3:17 PM (#112142 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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If I am looking for a horse, and I get a lead on one that sounds interesting, I call the owner and ask questions. If the owner sounds like they know what they are talking about, and the horse sounds good, then I hook up the trailer and go look for myself, checkbook in hand. If the owner sounds fishy, or just plain dumb, I keep looking. I don't want to waste the sellers time, and I sure don't have time of my own to waste. One visit is all it takes for me to know if the animal is what I want or not.
Posted 2009-10-20 4:38 PM (#112143 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Before I go to look I always ask how they want to be paid.I have had folks show up from out of town on Sunday with a check.That WON"T do. I tell serious lookers how I take payment now and I also ask them to leave their dogs at home or its got to stay in their vehicle.
Posted 2009-10-23 7:28 AM (#112267 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Got someone coming to pick up a broken leg broodmare of mine.Got kicked in the knee by one of her pasture mates.She is 20.She is the dam of my Qtr stallion.She is a producer of nice hunky horses.HLC Freckles Fancy.She is on All Breed Data base.Bringing cash and trailer from South Ga.Maybe they'll take TWO.LOL Sold her off Craigs list.
Posted 2009-10-23 12:26 PM (#112283 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Coupla years back we were selling one of our geldings for $12k. Point earning proven APHA gelding. Folks called, asked the right questions, made an appt to come see. They pulled up in a rusted thru 91 Corolla. I shouldn't judge, I say. Introductions are shared, and I notice both are wearing bright white brand new Nikes. Hmmm, don't judge, I say. Pull the horse out of the pasture, brush him up, brag him up, and neither of them approach the animal. Hmmmm, don't judge. Wifey got an and they did their thing. The folks watched. When we asked if they'd like to ride, they just said, No, we're beginners.
What a CompleteWasteOfTime.
But it happens. People suck, and we can't beat brains into them.
Posted 2009-10-23 4:21 PM (#112293 - in reply to #111886) Subject: RE: selling a horse
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Well they showed up with a trailer and cash.Looked at the mare and grinned ear to ear.Said was already shopping stallions.Loaded her and off to the Savanah area.