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littlewoodhorses
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2007-07-28 9:41 PM (#64540)
Subject: Warm-up ring etiquette


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Could you all catch me up on who yields to who ect? I avoid the warm-up ring because at shows I don't need to be in there with my stallion, while kids are in there, ect. But last night I let myself be talked into filling in on a drill team. While loping my mare around the arena, another lady was coming straight at me, we were both on the rail, about the same distance off, her horse's nose was tipped to the inside. I was afraid to cut to the inside of the arena, because if her horse did the same we were going to collide. When I realized she wasn't going give any direction, I put my horse's face in the face and stopped her. Unfortunately, she kicked her hip out and the other lady ran smack into us. Her horse smashed into my shoulder/hip. All she said was "you need to watch where your going" Other than at home :) where should I have been?
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-07-29 12:26 AM (#64544 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette



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I have no idea about "etiquette", but if you were stopped, common sense should have told her to go around you.  It was her fault she hit you, even if your mare did move a bit.  If you think about it, if you mare hadn't moved her hip, the other horse still would have passed extremely close to you and crowded you on the rail.  She was expecting you to move for her which seems a bit arrogant to me.

 I don't show, but I always thought that everyone was supposed to be going in the same direction. 



Edited by Terri 2007-07-29 12:36 AM
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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-07-29 1:48 AM (#64549 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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There really is no such thing!  LOL.  That little hussy was pulling one over on you, BIG TIME!  If you had stopped then she should have moved around you.  I might have grown some devil horns, hunted her tail down and trashed her arena time.  I absolutely would have stuffed my spur into the side of her stirrup or raked it down her horse.  It's quite amazing how well animals react to "discomforts."  Having the ends of the reins ready to whip intruders can also help define your space.  As people approach loudly stating your horse (insert any aggressive behavior, I use kicks/bites) will usually cause others to give you some room.  Riding along with your bat/crop stuck out also works REALLY well.

Here's an example of some tactics I've used:

I had another contestant ruin one of my HUS runs once, pulled right into the rail after passing me and stopped.  I took it upon myself to "help her learn from her mistake" and promptly drove her and her little junker into the wall on the next upcoming corner.  Later her mother approached mine at our stalls.  She stated that her daughter hadn't done anything on purpose but wasn't a good rider and that, "things happen in the ring."  My mother replied with, "yes they do."  The lady stomped off without the apology she thought was coming.  As she reached the end of the stall row my mother loudly stated, "  My daughter isn't a good rider either, she's great!"  The next class up, HSE, I took second out of 71.  The lady never knew I was standing in the tack room listening and adjusting my helmet.

Once my students were ready to show physically I started training them mentally.  Thinking ahead can sometimes be more than youth competitors can handle, it's also where the worst wrecks could happen.  I would give "bumper car" lessons.  I'd mount up and we'd pass each other, learn to think about up coming transitions, corners, spacing and avoiding reckless riders.  Once they could handle the situations I put them in, still show the horse and maintain fairly good position they were ready to compete.

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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2007-07-29 6:02 AM (#64551 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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I always try and avoid situations that could lead to a wreck even if it means I stop. Who cares who was at fault when it can lead to a injury to rider or horse or ruining the rest of the day? If someone is that intent on having the rail, they can go ahead and have it. You can always call out your intentions- RAIL.....INSIDE....OUTSIDE>>>>>something to let them know you intend on turning in or out.

 

I also try to ride in the general direction of the crowd to avoid problems. If the ring is light, then I will ride in any direction, if traffic is heavy, I'll go with the flow. IMO- proper ring etiquette means making it safe for yourself as well as being polite to others..........

 

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horsecrazi
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2007-07-29 8:00 AM (#64555 - in reply to #64540)
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I have always been tuaght to pass left to left.Who ever is going at the faster pace should get the rail.For instance if you are going left and the other person right they should pass to your inside(left shoulder to left shoulder).If you are just walking then you should come to the inside of the ring and let the other people who are moving at a faster pace have the rail.
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notfromtexas
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-07-29 8:25 AM (#64558 - in reply to #64540)
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In most parts of the world, passing is right to right.  It is the responsibility of the show organizers to post this on the warm up ring-the next time you go to a show have a look and if there is nothing posted ask the organizers to do so.
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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-07-29 8:45 AM (#64560 - in reply to #64540)
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As another poster stated. the general, but unwritten, rule is:

If you are going down the rail and someone is coming toward you-
- the horse farthest off the rail passes
or
- if you are head to head, the person going the fastest gait passes
or-
if you are both doing the same gait (say loping), look at the pther person in the eyes to make sure she actually is paying attention. If she isn't, just pass her. If she is, I usually pass and say "I'll pass this time, you can pass the next." Unless the person is a jerk, this usually works well. If they are a jerk, one way to solve it is to just stop dead in your tracks and make them go around you. You can also do this if someone is running up your horses butt. Stop dead once and they usually get the message. The key, is don't act intimidated!
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horsecrazi
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2007-07-29 1:05 PM (#64569 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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With every one thinking diffrently.(I think you should pass left to left,and notfromtexas thinks it is right to right)I can see how the warm up rings are a mess.I ride dressage and at dressage shows everyone knows it is left to left ,and the faster pace gets the outside rail.We normally do not have these problems.Seems like we all need to get on the same page.
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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-07-29 1:37 PM (#64573 - in reply to #64569)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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The unwritten rule about passing when going the SAME direction is this:

If you are coming up behind someone who is on the rail, pass on the inside (obviuosly!!)

If you are coming up behind someone on the rail and there is someone fairly close to the side of that horse, say maybe a horse width, pass on the inside of both of them. You shouldn't try to squeeze between them if there is room on the inside. Now, if the pen is a zoo with horses going in all directions and at all gaites, you just do what you have to to get around.
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horsecrazi
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2007-07-29 7:00 PM (#64608 - in reply to #64540)
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Yes if you are coming up behind someone then you should go around them.(if they are on the rail then you would pass to the inside),but if they are going a slower pace then they should be off the rail.If the 2 people are going oppisite directions then you should pass left to left.You can also call out as you are approching the other person "rail"or "inside"If for some reason you need to stay on the rail.
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2007-07-29 8:53 PM (#64614 - in reply to #64608)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette



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In show and all ring the rule is left shoulder to left shoulder that way you avoid hitting . the other rule is if you are coming up behind somebody and  you wont to pass you call out  pass in  on your left or right side( the one passing-- passes on the inside on the ring) And if you need to stop you stop in the center not on the rail or gate area. this is the rule I was told and follow
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Bells
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-07-30 10:44 AM (#64642 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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Rules I was taught -

pass left to left except:

-the rider doing lateral work along the wall always has the right of way

-those riding on a circle always ride inside of those on the track

-do not halt on the track, move to the "second track" to halt so traffic can pass to your outside.

-also move to the second track if performing difficult moves such as tempi changes.

-those just coming off a diagonal always yield to those on the track and therefore, if necessary pass inside even if right to right.

-do not under any circumstances run over your instructor.

-if you fall off in the ring, you must buy the entire class a beer afterwards.

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littlewoodhorses
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2007-07-30 10:45 AM (#64643 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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Thank you to everyone! By my staying on the rail we would have passed left to left, so I can feel a little better about not having been the absolute cause of the collision. I would have stopped in the center of the arena, but when I realized the other rider wasn't going to slow down, yield or otherwise try to avoid a wreck, it was too late to cross her track to get to the center, hence the fence stop. I didn't clarify this was a rodeo warm-up, there were horses everywhere, at different speeds and directions.
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Bells
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2007-07-30 11:36 AM (#64652 - in reply to #64540)
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Sounds like you should find out the rider's name and drop them a note!
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-07-30 4:32 PM (#64684 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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Thanks for bringing up a great topic.  I have often wondered the same thing. My way thus far has been to circle (if I am coming up behind someone) or to shout something like "I'll take the inside... (or the rail)."

Our riding club recently constructed a warm up ring at the fairground where we hold our shows. I think maybe i will post some "suggested maneuvers" to avoid collisions.

 

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-07-30 10:10 PM (#64712 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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Rodeo warm-up...enough said.

Visual images of this have me almost peeing my pants. 

There are no rules, just survival strategies.

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2007-07-30 10:24 PM (#64715 - in reply to #64652)
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Bells -I forgot about the drop rule wow that could cause a good penney
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horsecrazi
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2007-07-31 8:09 AM (#64734 - in reply to #64540)
Subject: RE: Warm-up ring etiquette


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bells ..you must ride dressage.I have been taught the same.
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2007-07-31 10:47 PM (#64796 - in reply to #64734)
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the etiquette rule is also for western rides if they is any question. riding in a ring is riding in the ring it is just good sense 
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