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CrazyAgain
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2005-05-27 9:55 AM (#25742)
Subject: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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I finally did it - bought a LQ I have been wishing for for many years for camping with good friends and our horses.  Goodbye tent. Bought the little Sundowner Sunrise because it fit my requirements and my budget.

Now I have the LQ plugged in at my home and just put the Sharp microwave shelf in and gave it a try.  It starts normal - like one in a house and then slows down considerably and the tray inside kind of pokes around with a bit of jerking.  Doesn't seem right.  It does this every time the mw is started.

The only electrical appliances I have are the 3cf fridge and the microwave.

I am using an extension cord to get to the trailer that is a heavy duty cord with proper ground, etc. 

Your advice or insight is greatly appreciated.

BTW, went camping for the first time last weekend (no hookups).  Loved every second of it!  How nice to have a warm dry place to sleep and a place to get clean.   The only down side I can see to having a LQ is I used to wake up and check the horses by just peeking out of my sleeping bag.  Now I will have to relax and trust that my horses are fine and have always been fine while on a tie line.

 

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efaubert1
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2005-05-27 10:39 AM (#25746 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?



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Have you tried plugging the microwave into the house? That will tell you if it is the micro or the electricity. And the little gear drive on the carousel on mine gets jerky at times at home, but it is 6 yrs old.
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donnat
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2005-05-27 11:00 AM (#25747 - in reply to #25742)
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If this is a new trailer & LQ, all the appliances should be under warranty.  There should also be a packet that came with the LQ that has appliance warranty information and a phone number to call with questions.  This is assuming the microwave came as part of the LQ.   Definitely try the plugging into different electrical source as efaubert mentioned first.  Good Luck!
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efaubert1
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2005-05-27 11:09 AM (#25748 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?



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Also, next to an A/C, the microwave is the heaviest drawing electrical appliance you can own.
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Ardly
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2005-05-27 10:10 PM (#25771 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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CrazyAgain, Not sure of the amperage draw of your appliances nor the size of the ext. cord (wire size and lenth) but I would suspect that to be your problem. With a long run of ext. cord of insuficient size the microwave would be starved for enough current and possible voltage drop to not only work poorly but to also damage it and the refrigerater.As stated in a earlier post, microwaves are heavy on the current draw as well as the start-up of the refrigerater compresser. Hope this helps, Ardly
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gbl
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2005-05-30 8:11 AM (#25819 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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How many watts does the microwave use?  What size is the generator?

We had a similar problem when running our microwave as my 2000w Honda generator couldn't handle the load.  I'd even plug it into the house with the long extension cord and it would work a little better but not much.  When I plugged it into the 3200w generator it worked beautifully.  Turns out the long extension cord wasn't heavy duty enough and the microwave pulled about 1900w.

If you aren't providing enough wattage to the microwave you'll kill it sooner or latter.

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MIfarmbabe
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-30 8:40 AM (#25822 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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This is exactly why I opted for a toaster oven instead. Not a problem for everyone but I know microwaves suck a lot of juice up.

In fact this is what I put in my trailer and it is slick!

http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/ProductsHOM.aspx?DeptID=25436&CatID=7357&CatTyp=DEP&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=PRD&ItemID=0ba0a1c&ProdSeq=3&ProdCount=6&Dep=Bed+%26amp%3b+Bath&RefPage=SearchDepartment&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy=0&SearchString=coffee+maker&S4DeptID=25436



Edited by MIfarmbabe 2005-05-30 8:46 AM
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pegasus
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2005-05-30 9:15 AM (#25823 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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to Mifarmbabe:
what a great idea! checked the web page you listed and that unit is so compact I think it'll work even in my tiny LQ.

to add to the discussion of microwaves, a proper sized generator was the fix for us. a 3000 watt, with 3500 max, and I switch the ac to fan only to run the microwave, works great now.

happy trails everyone and remember a vet today cause freedom isn't free!
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equigal
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-05-30 9:15 AM (#25824 - in reply to #25742)
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Interesting info about the power requirement of the microwave...I was thinking of plugging into hydro also, but would have to use a very long extension cord at the show grounds.... I may be better off not using the micro at all.I wonder how much power a small coffee perk would draw....I think that I am just going to use the gas cook top and a camping stovetop coffee perk, although I was hoping to use hydro when it gets warmer out...for the AC!I tried my extension cord (60')at home and it seems to run the AC ok...but at the grounds, it must be plugged in quite a distance from the outlet. Also, trucks will be driving over it! LOL** want to be hydro free...I also have a battery powered fan! ;-)
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pegasus
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2005-05-30 9:21 AM (#25825 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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re my post just now: oops!

shoul have said veteran in that last sentence,  not that veterinarians aren't great also!

 

 

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-30 10:04 AM (#25829 - in reply to #25824)
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Originally written by equigal on 2005-05-30 10:15 PM

Interesting info about the power requirement of the microwave...I was thinking of plugging into hydro also, but would have to use a very long extension cord at the show grounds.... I may be better off not using the micro at all.I wonder how much power a small coffee perk would draw....I think that I am just going to use the gas cook top and a camping stovetop coffee perk, although I was hoping to use hydro when it gets warmer out...for the AC!I tried my extension cord (60')at home and it seems to run the AC ok...but at the grounds, it must be plugged in quite a distance from the outlet. Also, trucks will be driving over it! LOL** want to be hydro free...I also have a battery powered fan! ;-)

Hi .. EQ ... I was scratching my head at your use of the term "Hydro" until I saw you were in Ontario..

A word of caution.. (well, two)  Voltage drop...

This is the amount of voltage that is reduced by the length of extension cord.  The more power needed, the greater voltage drop is produced.  Resistance heaters like a coffe maker or toaster oven are tolerant of it.  They just don't make the heat like they should.

AC units and Microwaves are NOT voltage tolerant.  They will be damaged by low voltage caused by a long extension cord.  The only solution (least involved) is a heavier cord.  To see how much of a heavier cord you'll need, consult any of the numerous voltage drop calculators on the web.

Like this one  >>  http://www.electrician.com/vd_calculator.htm 

A A/c unit that is 1850 watts will draw 16 amps @ 115 volts

All appliances have a label showing watts or amps required.  To convert watts into amps ..divide the watts by the volts (115)

I have a 100 feet of # 10 cord for my A/C unit.  it's heavy, but I actually have two 50' cords so if the power is close, I only have to drag out one cord.

... Disclaimer:  I am of the cautious nature.  I have a bigger truck than trailer requires, I work with my horse on scary situations at home, so I can depend on him on the trail,  I'd rather spend $ up front than in repair.  Other posters on this board have done as well with less.

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equigal
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-05-30 10:40 AM (#25832 - in reply to #25829)
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Thanks for the info. "hosspuller" :-)And yes....from Ontario, Canada.....land of snow, cold and sleet...even in June! Ontario Hydro...the great white energizer... grrrrrr...very costly!I will check out the cord rating..I know that its a heavy one....but will double check everything.Thanks again!
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CrazyAgain
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2005-05-30 4:36 PM (#25839 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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Thanks for the great info.  Yes, my expension cord is too long.  I will seek a better extension cord or have to park closer to the power source to use the cord included with my LQ.

This makes that microwave less handy than I originally thought unless I can find the right extension. 

The good news is that I do most of my cooking over the campfire or on my Coleman roadtrip grill.  I like hot water in the morning but i think I will heat some in the evening and put it in a thermos so that I can have hot tea or coffe without messing around in the morning.

 

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CrazyAgain
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2005-05-30 4:39 PM (#25840 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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BTW, here is a site that has good info about extension cords that even I can understand:

http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/pages/h00010.asp

There is a nice chart that shows amperage and the length/gauge of cord needed.  No math required.  ;-)

 



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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-30 5:43 PM (#25844 - in reply to #25840)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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Originally written by CrazyAgain on 2005-05-30 5:39 AM

BTW, here is a site that has good info about extension cords that even I can understand:

http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/pages/h00010.asp

There is a nice chart that shows amperage and the length/gauge of cord needed.  No math required.  ;-)

CA .. Nice site.. Explains extension cords very well.  Too bad their chart stops at the wire lengths and amps a typical A/C unit draws.  1850 watts   Don't fear or avoid a little math...  After all who avoids money?  Money is just math at a bank.

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CrazyAgain
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2005-05-31 12:00 PM (#25889 - in reply to #25742)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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My microwave manual says the microwave in my LQ needs 15 amps.  Now when I search on microwave and amp on the net, I can find lower amp microwaves out there (11.5).  Seems to me it would make sense to have a lower amp unit.  Or would running the mw at a lower power setting be okay without investing in a 10 gauge cord?  I don't have AC in my trailer - just a Fantastic Fan on 12V.

I looked at 10 gauge cords at Home Depot.  Wow to price and weight and the 100' cord said it was good to 15 amps.  They didn't have any shorter cords and I didn't buy one.

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-31 8:17 PM (#25912 - in reply to #25889)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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Originally written by CrazyAgain on 2005-05-31 1:00 AM

My microwave manual says the microwave in my LQ needs 15 amps.  Now when I search on microwave and amp on the net, I can find lower amp microwaves out there (11.5).  Seems to me it would make sense to have a lower amp unit.  Or would running the mw at a lower power setting be okay without investing in a 10 gauge cord? 

I looked at 10 gauge cords at Home Depot.  Wow to price and weight and the 100' cord said it was good to 15 amps.  They didn't have any shorter cords and I didn't buy one.

CA .. Most Microwaves only run at full power.  When the controls are set for a lower power level, the source of the microwave energy is pulsed at full power to average out to the desired  power level.  So running your MW at a lower power level will not accomplish a lower amp draw.

 

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-31 8:27 PM (#25913 - in reply to #25889)
Subject: RE: Microwave in my new LQ seems to run slow. ?


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Originally written by CrazyAgain on 2005-05-31 1:00 AM

I looked at 10 gauge cords at Home Depot.  Wow to price and weight and the 100' cord said it was good to 15 amps.  They didn't have any shorter cords and I didn't buy one.

If you can manage with a shorter cord, say 50' then a 14 gauge cord will do.  (I hope the camp ground you're at has figured the voltage drop and installed proper wiring to each site)

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