Posted 2009-05-14 11:45 PM (#104951 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Yes, I have seen some both ways, with the king pin on the trailer like an RV and some inverted 5th wheel with the king pin mounted in the truck bed.
Guys down the road has a 4 Horse Bloomer with around a 15'LQ and mid tack and they removed the gooseneck coupler and installed a king pin coupler so they could use their Peterbuilt class 8 truck to haul with.
Posted 2009-05-15 9:18 AM (#104962 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
The DaKing trailer lock from GusHill Industries is unique in that it covers all of the king pin...and....locks physically 210 degrees of the king pin. Nothing else like it in a lock for king pins. Have had much trouble in finding someone who would try removing one and filming the event....someone will step up and offer some day. Some things you just want to know....Ken
Posted 2009-05-15 5:36 PM (#104991 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
Seems like a large forum for there to be only one person commenting about a friend that has a king pin hitch.Is it possible that no horse trailers have king pin hitches? Ken
Posted 2009-05-18 4:54 AM (#105061 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 3802 Location: Rocky Mount N.C.
Don't take this as the gospel truth... But I remember reading somewhere, by using a "King Pin" set up, this makes it legal the have an attendent in the trailer while the vehicle is in motion on the highways.....
I seen the big commercial haulers pass me on I-95 and Juan, Jerome and Jesus would be poking their head out the side ramp window. Had often wonderd how they could get by with them in the trailer...... If it was wrong, they couldn't get past the Ag Inspection Station at Jacksonville, Fl.
Posted 2009-05-18 1:19 PM (#105080 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
Just reading the feedback is nice.....lot of information that was never considered. I just wanted to lock the trailer up...stop theft and years later get introduced to forums where you actually know what is really going on......other points of view. Nice to know....Still hunting for that someone who would want to do a test anyway they choose...Ken
Posted 2009-05-18 1:36 PM (#105083 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 795 Location: Tenn/Ala.
Ken,
There have been some good points here. One thing to consider is original trailer design. A GN ball allows the truck/trailer combo to "flex" sideways at this joint. Thus most GN horse/livestock trailers are designed at the GN for great fore/aft strength, but not for a lateral twist. We have seen several occasions where an operator has inserted a king pin into his big horse trailer and put it on a class 8 road tractor (they are big, powerful, and most of all cheap) with a fith wheel that only pivoted fore & aft. In a few months, the areas around where the neck joins the trailer box were warped, popped loose sheets, crinkled roof skin, or any other number of anomalies. The trailer just wasn't designed for stress in those directions. Granted, there are some RV fifth wheels that incorporate a side to side pivot action, but many do not. Just my .02$
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Posted 2009-05-20 7:53 PM (#105262 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
Still have not found anyone who is willing to give a try at removing a king pin lock. Any way you choose. I cannot believe that anyone removing this trailer lock would be so destructive to their own trailer that that would be a problem. After trying to find someone for at least 4 years...that seems to be the problem....finding the someone who is willing to take the time.Ken
Posted 2009-05-22 11:34 AM (#105328 - in reply to #104938) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
I have put my hat back on so that I can ask another question. Without questions and answers no one learns anything.It appears that trailer theft is NOT a problem in the horse industry.Any views on that statement?If you have the view that in your area...where you live...that theft is a problem....what is the approach to combat the problem? Ken
Posted 2009-05-22 11:53 AM (#105330 - in reply to #105328) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Originally written by ken@gushill.com on 2009-05-22 11:34 AM
I have put my hat back on so that I can ask another question. Without questions and answers no one learns anything.It appears that trailer theft is NOT a problem in the horse industry.Any views on that statement?If you have the view that in your area...where you live...that theft is a problem....what is the approach to combat the problem? Ken
Posted 2009-05-22 8:15 PM (#105356 - in reply to #105351) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Jackson,California 95642
So my take on trailer theft...at least within horse industry...it is not a major problem. All I am aware of is 30 BILLION dollars worth of trailers are stolen each year in the USA. That figure is not broken down into what industry and I am trying to find out where most of the theft is happening. Ken
Posted 2009-05-22 8:48 PM (#105360 - in reply to #105351) Subject: RE: Trailer connection
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Posts: 48 Location: Hooper, UT
Hey guys,
I have locks on my trailers (all of them), I found the locks at a truck stop between GA and UT. I can't remember which truck stop, sorry my short term memory is getting even shorter as my gray gets grayer! I had my trailer tags stolen at a horse show (in GA), so I take them off now if I'm leaving the trailer.
I haven't had anything stolen here in UT, just blocked in at a horse show.
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