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huntinfool
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2007-04-29 8:11 PM (#60156)
Subject: Going downhill


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 I'm looking for some help or suggestions with a horse that doesn't want to go down mountain trails . A little back ground on the horse in question . He is a 5 year old gelding that I have owned for 2 years . He has all ways been great at trail riding with the only exception being that he wants to snatch a bit of grass while walking . I knew that he had been getting away with that when I bought him , and I figured I would work on that bad habit . He is faithfully ridden once a week for a good long ride , sometimes I can sneak in two days of riding . He has always went down steep hills with no problem .

  Back to the problem at hand . Over the last two months this horse has been nothing but a problem when it comes to going down hills . He just stops at the top of the hill , and I have too spur him the whole way down the hill . Also in the last couple of months he refuses to walk on the trail going down any hill , unless I'm applying constant pressure . He doesn't act like he is sore , and short of the down hills he walks out all day .

   One other thing that may or may not have any thing to do with this . In the last month this horse has bucked two different times which in the two years I have had him he has never acted like that . One bucking episode was a couple hours in to a ride , and looking back on it there was nothing that spooked him or could explain why he bucked so hard .  The last bucking scene was the other day after saddling and just starting the ride . He rode out fine after the little scene . I have checked all my tack , and I walk him around a little bit before any ride .

   Sorry about all the information , but I just wanted to give a little history in case some one has similar experience . I really like this horse , but some thing has to change in regards to the fighting him at every down hill section . Any help , comments , suggestions would help .     Thank you

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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-04-29 9:04 PM (#60158 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill




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saddle fit?  Next stop, have vet check him out;  then try an equine chiropractor......What has changed over the last 2 years....has he gained/lost weight,  improved muscle mass/tone....any of these can affect saddle fit (I know, duh!)   Feet?  Teeth?  Ears?  Any eye problems?  Feeding schedule change?  Hope you find out what's bothering your fella...best of luck

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huntinfool
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2007-04-29 9:26 PM (#60161 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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  No major changes with the horse . He is very fit and conditioned . I will try a different saddle , and check if there is any improvement . I will also check with the vet.
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Dwight
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2007-04-29 10:32 PM (#60166 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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Rose - you read my mind!  I think the horse may be in need of a chiropractor or massage therapist.  Sounds like something is out of whack.

RIDE ON!

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N2ridin
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2007-04-29 11:46 PM (#60169 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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He's sore somewhere.  Either his back (loin area most likely) or perhaps his hocks.  Do a pressure test after your next ride.  Ride a good long ride, and after unsaddling, with the palm of your hand, apply pressure (it won't take alot of pressure)  from behind the withers to his loin along the muscle that runs along side the spine.  Just run your palm down along that muscle. I'm gonna guess, that when you get back to his loins, that he's gonna flinch.  Horses DO change shape as they mature.  He's still pretty young, but he's now growing and developing his "big horse" body and muscles.  I'd be leaning toward saddle fit, and a sore back.  But I've also seen endurance horses get goofy on downhills because of hock pain too.  Keep us informed.
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huntinfool
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2007-04-30 1:25 AM (#60172 - in reply to #60156)
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 I remembered that on the last ride he did slightly flinch after we were done , and I was brushing him off . The comments have got me thinking about some type of problem with his back . I have been checking for some type of horse massage therapy in my area , and I'll try that soon .
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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-04-30 1:52 AM (#60175 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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If he's five I'd bet a dollar his hocks are fusing, he'll return to being fine once they are done.  Get some x-rays to confirm this, but short of injections there is nothing you can do to "fix" him until his body is done fusing.
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-04-30 8:10 AM (#60177 - in reply to #60156)
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I concur with other posts -It could be saddle fit. I trained in and performed sports massage therapy on horses for several years and yours sounds like a classic case. And I also agree that consulting a massage therapist or an equine chiropractor would be a good idea.

The first thing I look for when a horse suddenly has a change in behavior is pain which is often caused by ill-fitting equipment.

Good Luck!

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Its all about horses
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-04-30 11:45 AM (#60184 - in reply to #60156)
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I agree with the other posters about a chiropractor and massage. I also say get your vet out for some x-rays. Like huntseat said his hocks are probably fusing and if you have the slides to show it your vet can recommend an exercise schedule to help him. I stress to get a good chiropractor that is willing to work with a vet if need be. I had a horse that started bucking and the owner had a local Chiropractor out to see the horse, and he wanted x-rays. We had them done only to discover he had a fractured hip. How it happened we don't know but he is know on the road to recovery and had we not had the chiropractor work with the vet we could have had some very serious problems. Good Luck

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Dwight
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2007-04-30 12:07 PM (#60189 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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Hey - It' all about horses - I had a similar experience.   We had a 2 yo TWH in show training.  She did great with ground work...smart and willing, but when they began to ride her, she would begin to limp.  They rested her for two weeks and tried again.  Same thing.  I brought her home and worked on her (I am certified in equine massage) and after a few sessions I told my hubby whatever was wrong with her was not muscular.  We took her to a specialist in TN and found out that she had a fractured femur bone!!  Dr. said it was an old injury and had healed but not perfectly.  He said she would never be sound to ride but could carry a foal with no problems.  She is now four and, as I type, I am watching her and her first foal frolic in the field.  Like your horse, she must have injurred it sometime as a yearling and we never even knew it happened.

Sorry to hijack the post but that is the first time I have heard of anyone else having a horse with an unknown broken bone like ours.

RIDE ON!

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IcePonyGoddess
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-04-30 10:45 PM (#60218 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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Have you checked saddle fit?????? I would highly recommend that you find a saddle fitter in your area and have them check your saddle. As well as having a Vet check your horse's back. Good luck and keep us posted.
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cowgirl98034
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2007-04-30 11:28 PM (#60221 - in reply to #60156)
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A friend has a nice buckskin gelding who rings his tail, fidgets, jigs the whole way down, trying to turn and go back up hills...  I suggested they him with a bareback pad on the same trails (close to home) to see if he reacts the same with no pressure and voila - no problem whatsoever.  They used an old saddle with an old saddle blanket and I was sure it was pinching or poking him somewhere.  It is an easy place to start, with the saddle and or saddle blanket.  Massage and chiropractic also work wonders!
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huntinfool
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2007-05-06 10:38 PM (#60486 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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 Thanks for the information . I had the vet. check the horse , and it appears he does have a back issue . It appears he is sore in the middle of the back . Like a lot of the suggestions I received the vet thinks a chiropractor is the way to go . From what the vet is telling me they want to dope the horse up , and then crack his back . I'm wondering if the horse hurt is back when he some how jumped over a five foot high pipe rail fence , and from the bend in the fence it looks he was hung up on the top rail . When he went over the fence he looked like his only problem was some hair missing from his stomach . Hopefully the chiropractor will help .
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-05-07 8:44 AM (#60502 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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I've seen three different chiropractors work on horses and none of them used any kind of medication, local or otherwise. I have seen two of them use accupuncture.

But perhaps it depends on the type of alignment or adjustment necessary.

 

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huntinfool
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2007-05-07 4:14 PM (#60526 - in reply to #60156)
Subject: RE: Going downhill


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I was surprised when the vet. told me about the anesthesia , and actually laying the horse down to work on his back . I have been doing a lot of research on the web trying to find out all I can about horse chiropractor's .
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