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Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2008-10-17 4:54 AM (#93185)
Subject: barefoot dressage horses?


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Are any of you who are comepeting dressage riding barefoot horses?  I've got a 5 yr old arab/saddlebred(?)  gelding, very nice mover with great feet.  He had shoes on for about 6 months then I decided to have them removed and now use the renagade hoof boots when we're on the trail. 

 He's had shoes off about 3 months and is doing fine in the ring- I can't feel any difference but my instructor says he needs shoes for support and so he can push off better.  We've just started competing in first level and he's done very well so far. 

There are lots of people around here  who keep shoes on their horses just to give them that "finished" look but I'd rather not use them if we don't have to.

 

 

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luckeys71
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2008-10-17 1:52 PM (#93200 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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I will have to look around and see if I can find the link to the site and/or the horses' names, but back when I was first looking into Barefoot trimming and was asking if there were people out there competing warmbloods barefoot, someone sent me a link to a site with a couple of barefoot Grand Prix dressage horses and photos of a jumper competing at the 4 foot level barefoot.
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luckeys71
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2008-10-17 2:05 PM (#93202 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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This site has photos of upper level dressage horses, Wie Weltmeyer and Diamond Hit, that compete barefoot. http://www.hoofcareunltd.com/Emma%20Hindle.htm

You can ,also, look at the thread I started asking my questions about competing barefoot on eWarmbloods.net at  http://www.ewarmbloods.net/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=23432

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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-10-18 10:58 AM (#93213 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2008-10-19 4:41 PM (#93241 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?



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If you can't feel a difference, he's comfortable and your happy with him I'd leave him barefoot.  I wouldn't let someone push you into shoes just because they think that it's the way it should be.
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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-10-20 3:59 PM (#93292 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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FEI Barefoot dressage
http://www.hoofcareunltd.com/Emma%20Hindle.htm

http://www.horsemagazine.co.uk/features/barefoot_trimming.php

Here are a few different approachs to barefoot activities...
BareHoof Trim / Dan Guerrera: http://www.barehoof.com/
Equine Podiatry Association: http://www.equinepodiatryassociation.org.uk/
Farriers Registration Council: http://www.farrier-reg.gov.uk/
High Performance Trim: http://www.equinepodiatry.net/
HoofTalk, Inc / Lyle Bergeleen: http://www.hooftalk.com/
Jaime Jackson method: http://www.primechoice.com/jaime-jackson
Les Spark – information on barefoot endurance riding: http://www.fnesaddles.com/
Lucinda McAlpine - information on barefoot training and holistic horsecare: http://www.lucindamcalpine.co.uk/
Natural Balance Hoofcare / Gene Ovnicek: http://www.hopeforsoundness.com/
Nic Barker, AANHCP certified practitioner: http://www.barefoothorses.co.uk/
Nick Thompson, holistic vet: http://www.holisticvet.co.uk/
Simon Earle - information on barefoot racing: http://www.simonearleracing.com/
Strasser: http://www.strasserhoofcare.com/
Tania Lonning, barefoot trimmer, email: mailto:tania_lonning@operamail.com
The UK Natural Hoof Care Practitioners association: http://www.uknhcp.org/
The Whole Horse Trim: http://www.marthaolivo.com/
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Marla
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2008-10-20 8:13 PM (#93311 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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If your horse is comfortable, why change?

 

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Ncatanz
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2008-11-04 11:48 AM (#94245 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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I competed for years with my old horse up to second level barefoot,  (the horse was barefoot,  I wore boots :))  I also competed up to training level at eventing with the same horse barefoot.  My new horse is coming along nicely and has never had shoes on her.  The more you read,  the more you will see the benefits of going barefoot.  Don't be intimidated with what everyone else is doing,  do what is right for your horse.  Good luck to you.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-11-06 7:53 AM (#94374 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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I am a proponant of doing what is right for your horse and shoes can be right too. if my trainer suggested a chnage in shoeing and I had alot of faith in their judgement, then I would certainly consider it.
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Gone
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-11-06 8:52 AM (#94379 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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Ok, I am lost on this one.......Why would a shoe help him push off better? Why would a horse need shoes to do dressage?
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-11-06 12:56 PM (#94396 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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I guess that depends on the horse. Shoes can help a horse move better,break over sharper and round up the front legs.Horse that move flat,daisy cutter if you will, do not look as attractive as one that picks up their feet more. Its all about quality of gait and the presentation. Footing can also pose a problem. Some horses might need some "grab" in deeper arenas not to mention the need for some grab to do upper level work.

Shoeing a horse isn't necesarrily a bad thing. Some horse need the foot support of a shoe, some don't. Some horse move better with proper shoeing and other are simply talented and don't need the help. If I trusted the advice of my trainer, I would try shoeing the horse and see. If its not working or doesn't make a difference, then you can always take them off.

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Gone
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2008-11-06 1:49 PM (#94403 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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Interesting.....You can tell I don't show.
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Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2008-11-07 4:58 AM (#94443 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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well... I do  like this trainer and have a lot of faith in her judgement.   I'm not dead set against shoes,  but I respectfully disagree w/ her that EVERY horse needs them.   we'll continue to train barefoot and re evaluate in the spring.  this gelding is very athletic, has good feet and I can't tell a difference in the way he moves with or with out shoes.  he's consistantly getting "8's" on his extended trot and last week another trainer watched him move and even commented how well he carries himself. 

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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-11-10 7:20 PM (#94652 - in reply to #93185)
Subject: RE: barefoot dressage horses?


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I've shown to I-1 and lots of people show without shoes in my neck of the woods.  I used to, but one of the local arenas has footing that files off the hoof like an emery board! 

One trainer I know thinks that as the horse is asked to shift weight more to the hindquarters, shoes should be added to be sure that it's as easy as possible for the horse to comply.

One reason that I like showing English rather than western is because there is less "chrome" and "spit and polish" to deal with.  I've never scribed for a judge that ever mentioned a horse being barefoot.

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