Posted 2012-01-02 9:39 AM (#139788) Subject: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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Ok I know I'm most likely well past safe trailering, but trying to figure out just how much. Also not that it matters but I do have timbren helper springs on itI weighed yesterday, and wished I had figured a way to measure my pin weight, that's really the most important to me at this pointBut here's what I have and my Cat data2009 F250 6.4 Diesel Short Bed SWSpecs I have FoundGCWR 23,000Towing 12,500Goose/5th 15,300GVRW 10,000Let's start with I THINK my truck weights 8250 Because the GVRW is 10,000 and max payload is 1750 I thinkThis sound right?I'm hauling a LARGE horse trailer.Here's my Cat Scale dataSteer Axle 12,960Drive Axel 00 .. guess I missed the pad?Trailer Axel 10,600GROSS: 23,560So how far over am I, and does this mean the Trailer weighs in at 15,310
Posted 2012-01-02 10:20 AM (#139791 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
Location: Central Arkansas
I was told to weight them together. Then, to drop trailer and weight it alone. Then move trailer off scale, drop it and weigh the truck by itself. I was told that was the most accurate way to figure it.
Posted 2012-01-02 11:14 AM (#139794 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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Diesel, it is very unlikely that you have 12,960 on the steer axle unless your hitch is mounted on the front bumper:) This is probably total pickup (cat scales weigh is sections)
You have left out some important info. pickup tire size and rating, trailer tire size and rating and number of trailer axles.
Assuming 3,195# pickup tire rating (this is my tire on my pickup 285/70/17 D range) is 12,780# max on pickup
Assuming 3,750# a 110psi trailer tire rating (my trailer tire 235/85/16 G range) is 15,000# max on 2 axle trailer
You are at the max on both. You didn't say if the trailer was loaded or empty. I also feel that a long box pickup is safer with that kind of load than a short box. (I have had both, just my personal opinion)
Posted 2012-01-03 11:28 PM (#139821 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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Originally written by Diesel on 2012-01-02 9:39 AMOk I know I'm most likely well past safe trailering, but trying to figure out just how much. Also not that it matters but I do have timbren helper springs on itI weighed yesterday, and wished I had figured a way to measure my pin weight, that's really the most important to me at this point But here's what I have and my Cat data2009 F250 6.4 Diesel Short Bed SWSpecs I have Found GCWR 23,000Towing 12,500Goose/5th 15,300GVRW 10,000Let's start with I THINK my truck weights 8250 Because the GVRW is 10,000 and max payload is 1750 I thinkThis sound right?I'm hauling a LARGE horse trailer.Here's my Cat Scale dataSteer Axle 12,960Drive Axel 00 .. guess I missed the pad?Trailer Axel 10,600GROSS: 23,560So how far over am I, and does this mean the Trailer weighs in at 15,310
Load the trailer as you would expect to load it for a normal trip. Go to a scale that has three separate panels, this will allow you to get readings on all the axles separately. Flying J's and most other truck stops have Cat scales that can do this. First weigh the truck and trailer together, then unhook the trailer and weigh just the truck. Keep the weight the same as when the trailer was loaded (same fuel, passengers, etc.)
Posted 2012-01-03 11:42 PM (#139822 - in reply to #139789) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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Originally written by Diesel on 2012-01-02 9:41 AM
I apologize I have tried editing and fixing spacing and returns in this post twice it keeps removing any formatting not sure why, frustrating
I am having the same problem when I try to leave spacing (blank lines) between points or paragraphs. There has to be a way to do this, as I seen it done. Any information would be appreciated.
Posted 2012-01-04 7:38 AM (#139825 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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I'm making the assumption you are using Firefox...I do and have the same issue.
But if you know a little about html code you can work around it by using a tag at the beginning of the sentence <p> and at the end </p>. Or by putting tic in the box "Disable html in this post?"
Posted 2012-01-10 3:40 PM (#139935 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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There is a pretty easy way to get a variety of weight combinations. When you pull up to the scale, weigh your entire rig. Make sure all your axles of both the truck and trailer are on the scale. Note the weight. Then pull just enough forward to take your front truck axle off the scale. Note the weight, subtract from the total weight, this gives you your steer axle weight. Pull forward again until your truck rear axle is off the scale (barely). Note the weight. Subtract from your total to get your truck weight. Now unhitch your trailer. With the truck axles all the way off the scale, you don't have to pull out from under the trailer, but just uncouple and drop the trailer foot until the weight is fully off the truck (be sure the trailer foot is on the scale). Note the weight. This is your total trailer weight. Subtract the weight of the trailer while hooked to the truck from this weight to get your pin weight. Drop the trailer back down and recouple and you're done. You get all these weights with two small truck movements and just uncoupling and recoupling without moving the truck.
Posted 2012-01-10 6:17 PM (#139939 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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I guess I'm not sure why you need to unhook your trailer? You have or can get your axle ratings from your truck and trailer- pull up to the scale and stop with your steer axle on the scale. Get weight. Then pull up far enough to have your rear pickup axle on too. Get weight. Finally, pull your whole rig on the scale. Get weight. Doing it this way, you can see exactly how much weight you have on each axle. Compare to the axle weight rating to see where you are and if you are grossly over weight on any of the axles. A CAT scale with the separate platforms like you used will do the same thing for you- you just have to get the axles on the separate platforms. I like to see just how much weight I'm putting on the drive axle- that's usually going to be the one that winds up more heavily overloaded, and I want to see how much.
Posted 2012-01-12 7:05 AM (#139987 - in reply to #139788) Subject: RE: My Trailer Weight - Experts come on in :)
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The drive axel weight can change depending on how you load your trailer. It makes a big difference where you put your extra water tanks and what stalls you use for the horses. It is common to see no change in drive axel weight and maybe even a lighter weight after loading the horses. It just depends if they are in front, on top or behind the trailer axels. I have a Exiss 414 but I only travel with 2 horses, by using the rear stalls and putting the water, generator, etc at the rear of the trailer I have a little under 4000 lbs pin weight and it pulls really well.
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