Posted 2015-10-15 10:52 AM (#165091) Subject: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Location: michigan
I just bought a 2015 Kiefer trailer- we were building our own LQ inside- when we bought it, the dealer said "hey- we can line and insulate that for you" we figured Great0 it will save us some time. when we got the trailer- it is white Styrofoam cut into the gaps, with 2 inches all around to spare- some of the corners are bare- and NO vapor barrier- the first 50 degree night we had- you can see EVERY beam in the trailer lines in condensation, you can see every place they didn't insulate it ( which is a lot) the problem is that the lining is screwed and glued... it would be a HUGE issue to take it off- has anyone ever use a spray foam and drilled holes to fill up the spaces ? I figured if we could spray foam from a drill hole- then I could go over the lining with vapor barrier and thin strips and put a wood lining on it. but without filling the huge spaces- there wont be much insulation. wish I would have NEVER let them talk us into it.
Posted 2015-10-15 11:02 AM (#165092 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Posts: 133 Location: NC
doesn't sound right to me. why would they leave gaps and use screws and glue to hold insulation in? seems odd. i had my old trailer insulated and lined and i told them i wanted to see the insulation before they covered it with sheet. they filled all the nooks and crannies and got my approval to finish the job. i'm sure they hate to see me pull up but i want to make sure if i'm paying someone to do something that it is done right.
Posted 2015-10-15 11:39 AM (#165093 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Location: michigan
they didn't use screws to hold insulation in- they just laid white foam in the gaps- but not cut to fit tight, then they laid the aluminum skin on the beams- no vapor barrier and just screwed it in, and glued all the seams, so if I try to take it off- its going to be ruined by bending and flexing- if I just go "over it" with thin insulation its still got all the gaps- I just thought maybe we could drill holes in the skin and pump foam in... might be less cost than tearing it all off... when I called they said "well of course our "insulate and line" isn't the same quality of insulation as it would be for a LQ they were putting in... I said it would have been nice to know this... the salesman (who works for Kiefer) knew we were putting a LQ in it. I chalk it up to lack of knowledge from salesman- but we are still screwed... UGH..
Posted 2015-10-15 2:02 PM (#165097 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Posts: 3802 Location: Rocky Mount N.C.
Unacceptable..... Make them repair it or buy it back, you paid for first rate work and they gave you a bag of crap..... Where's your warranty on the "lining and insulation"?
Posted 2015-10-16 8:13 AM (#165107 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Every dressing room I've seen that was lined & insulated in aluminum was just that. If there is any talk of an LQ everything is done in wood via firring strips. It sounds like what you have is typical for & lined & insulated dressing room. That's why LQ makers start with a bare room.
I'd be pulling the aluminum out, and strip it the way it needs to be done in wood. You can use styrofoam, bubble insulation, or fiberglass. I've seen all 3 in quality LQs, but less styrofoam than the other 2. The fiberglass is great for filling in the curve at the roof.
Posted 2015-10-16 8:19 AM (#165108 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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BTW- Any time I've seen paneling direct to the aluminum, over time you'll see the outline of the bow/post. I assume from temperature & humidity. The extra firring/rafters will do a good job of isolating the wooden paneling from the aluminum.
Posted 2015-10-16 10:16 AM (#165112 - in reply to #165091) Subject: RE: re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
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Location: michigan
thanks all- yes I agree is probably is standard for just a dressing room- but honestly "why bother", if the insulation is that bad- might as well just leave it. LOLthey wired it and installed the AC unit so the intention was pretty clear- If I knew that it was "different" I would have pushed for better answers...my fault. my problem is now- unless they help me- I need to figure out how to insulate it behind the already put in panels, that's why I asked about the spray foam, or something- then it would be possible to put furring strips over the panels and re-line it. but unless I do something about the insulation behind the panels it isn't going to do much good as water will still build up behind the panels.I see old houses that get insulated by drilling holes, not sure why I couldn't do something similar...maybe..LOL
re-insulating a new "lined and insulated" trailer
