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notfromtexas
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-05-09 7:10 AM (#83571 - in reply to #83404)
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That's a very good point, Paul.  I'm currently working as a dog groomer, and no matter how busy, I will always make room for customers that are polite, take care of their dogs, and express their gratitude monetarily! 
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-09 7:30 AM (#83574 - in reply to #83404)
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I put I don't tip farrier we use.He also ropes semi pro as well as catching/working cattle for others.Well I guess we do in a way.He wanted to bred to our Driftwood/Freckles stallion.We did and I did not charge him nor did we swap it out.Since he has bought two colts from me at a real good price.He also lives around the corner in a rural way.Good for him and good for us.He's known for being picky when it comes to horses.Those colts he has I guess is good advertisement.
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-05-09 9:04 AM (#83583 - in reply to #83574)
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I do not tip with money on the day he is coming I pick up coffee and lunch for him and his helper I think that is better then money then he dose not have to stop and eat later and he gets a rest before going on to the next horse
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mygollygirl
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2008-05-09 2:10 PM (#83597 - in reply to #83404)
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Never did in the past.  Do now.  I know its not much but normal tip is $5.00.  Reason: the trimmer I use now does a GREAT job, travels about an hour for my two trims every 4-wks (that's just the way their hooves have always been), shows up & is usually early, trims for the best interest for the horse's body not what angle is taught in 'shoeing school', and her cost is way less than the ones in the past.  That and after becoming a LMT (massage therapist) and being in business for myself over the years I have more respect for the self-employed, physically demanding, 'service industry'.

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horsecrazi
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2008-05-09 6:33 PM (#83613 - in reply to #83404)
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I don't tip.My guy charges $20 for a trim $40 for front shoes and $60 for all fours.VERY CHEAP! He does a decent job,and is always on time.I have been at barns where the regular price for shoes on all fours were 120 and up,and that was years ago.
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-09 6:51 PM (#83614 - in reply to #83404)
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We have a couple around here that think their anvil don't stink and charge almost twice what others do.One now drives into Atlanta to get those prices.I offended one in a reining training barn near here.$150 to trim and put sliders on the back of my mare! I said you charge WHAT? He said but I'm from Florida.SOOOO you and the trainer are buds?Go BACK to Florida.Outrageous for what he did and the skill it took.
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siseley
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2008-05-10 2:14 PM (#83661 - in reply to #83404)
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Just sneakin in here to say, Like many others, I make up sandwiches or burritos for him and lots of ice tea or cold bottled water. I also make a point of having the horses ready and haltered at the ties BEFORE he arrives. I also am holding the animals and close by to help with tools and such.  This is the fourth farrier we have tried and he is quite good, but very picky about clients. We even had one farrier who while great on the horses, he was so unreliable and flakey we just stopped using him. He would make appts, then not show up or even call. I found out later he only wanted to work part time and then not very hard. A point should be made that your horses should stand QUIETLY for him and not lean or nip/bite/or fuss! Tips or gifts on holidays or bdays are nice touches too!

Steve

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Lea Anne
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2008-05-10 7:32 PM (#83671 - in reply to #83404)
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Just wanted to let you know....I went and gave my Amish farrier an extra $20, figuring an extra $10 for the 2 that were bad.  My husband and I both had to really work with him to get him to take it.  I felt like it wasn't enough, but he said that it was too much and "that's not the way I do business"....."you gave me what I asked".  So I felt much better.  I didn't think that he expected it as my former Amish farrier never would take anything extra.  They are an amazing people.  To kind of change the subject, what can I do as far a discipline the next time that I take them?   Any suggestions?  Like I said, one of my old guys has never misbehaved that much, but the 4 yr. old didn't surprize me.  I never have a problem cleaning his feet but he definitely displayed an attitude that day.
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horsin around
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2008-05-11 10:44 AM (#83694 - in reply to #83404)
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I have tipped in the past when I use to have a horse difficult to work with but finally took him to a trainer who worked with his problem and he's fine to work with now.

My farrier now is an Amish man and I don't tip him but will offer him drinks.  He's cheap and trims for $10.00 and when I have him put shoes on before I go on vacation, he'll trim three horses, put pads & shoes on all four for one horse and charges $85.00. He does a great job and is the best shoer I've worked with.

He doesn't have the cost of travel because he works on my neighbor's horses and the first person of the day picks him up and I'm the last of the day so I take him home and it's about 30 miles round trip. 

With him being so cheap it does sound cheap not to tip but I figure he can raise his prices if he wants more. With the cost of everything going up, I try to save anyway I can and started going barefoot on my horses except for vacations which I have to because of the rocks being so bad.  It's actually working well going barefoot and I started ordering and giving my own shots too.

 

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luvmywalkers
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2008-05-11 9:40 PM (#83724 - in reply to #83404)
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No way, do I tip. At 135.00 for 4 shoes on 4 horses no way. I even buy my own shoes. In fact I'm so fed up with farriers, that I'm learning how to trim my own horses. If their not trying to rip you off, they don't show up for the appt. and don't even call. Their as bad as doctors where I live.....lol.

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dallye
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2008-05-11 11:15 PM (#83730 - in reply to #83724)
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Maybe you need to find another farrier, I would be careful about my words, not all farriers fall under the same category, my personal feeling is that you are very ignorant about the industry.  And I don't mean to be unproffesional and fall into your level, but if I had a client who wanted to save a buck on a shoe, I would show you the ROAD!

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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-12 2:58 AM (#83733 - in reply to #83404)
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Your right! Not all do.Its better at least in my eyes then 20 years ago.Use to be a standing joke about what does a drunk house painter do when he's tired of painting.He shoes horses.I've met some wing dingers in my day calling them selves farriers.

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mrstacticalmedic
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-12 9:45 AM (#83749 - in reply to #83404)
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I agree, not all farriers are the same, just as not all horse OWNERS are the same!  By the way, that is CHEAP to shoe 4 horses.  I pay that to get one done correctly!  Decent shoes are not cheap, you can get good quality or you can go cheap.  To be honest, it kind of sounds like you are difficult to deal with and expect Porterhouse taste on a soup bone budget.  Probably a reason it is hard for you to find a "good" farrier.  Trust me, just as folks will pass on a bad experience with a professional, they will do the same if you are hard to please or are cheap yourself, or your horses are knotheads (I am NOT saying yours are).  Just becareful what you say, because what goes around does come back around! 

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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-12 10:18 AM (#83757 - in reply to #83404)
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Is that $135.00 each or all four?
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notfromtexas
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Posted 2008-05-12 9:55 PM (#83803 - in reply to #83404)
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Sometimes it's worth it to DIY..but if you mess up, don't try to call your horseshoer and say "fix what I did" because he will have a good laugh at your expense.  Frankly, I think my horse shoer is worth what I pay him and more...if I stand bent over with 1400 pounds leaning on me for more than 30 seconds, I can't walk the next day, so I have no idea how he does it!
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2008-05-13 3:34 PM (#83863 - in reply to #83404)
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You know, up until the last time she was here, I have never tipped my trimmer. I figured I got her a lot of business in this area, that was good enough. But when I stop and think about it:

1) she does an excellent job (natural trimmer, not a shoer)

2) conscientious and explains what she's doing and why

3) Gives me hell when my founder-prone pony is getting too fat

4) Arrives ON TIME EVERY TIME-calls if she must cancel (rarely)

5) I don't have to be there (ok, 50% of this point goes to my well-behaved horses)

6) She charges $30 per trim

7) She leaves me a sticky note with the next appointment, scheduled for seven weeks

8) She usually follows up with an e-mail or a phone call about any concerns she may have

9) She has to drive 2 hours to get here (granted she has more customers in the area - but still that makes for a looonggg day for a single mother)

So the last time she was here I gave her a $10 because obviously the gas prices are killing her like they're killing the rest of us. But she didn't raise her price because of it, or decide to charge a "farm call" like the guy who comes to put shoes on one of my horses.... he gets no tip....

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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-05-13 4:09 PM (#83865 - in reply to #83404)
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So the gal trims but doesn't shoe? Kinda slopping up the gravy if you ask me.
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barstow
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Posted 2008-05-13 4:17 PM (#83866 - in reply to #83404)
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Now, I don't want to get into the shoes vs natural trim thing here. I say, if your horse can go barefoot, great. If the job he needs to do requires shoes to keep him comfortable and sound, then put shoes on him.

This woman is a "natural trimmer." Period. She does not shoe. She's got a healthy clientèle in this area and she does a good job. I like her work and her work ethic.

Because one of my horses goes better with shoes in the front, I have to call in a farrier. He does a fine job, but I am loyal to my trimmer for the other three.

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hounddog
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Posted 2008-05-13 4:41 PM (#83869 - in reply to #83404)
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Amazed the 'shoer"even bothers with you.
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barstow
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Posted 2008-05-13 5:58 PM (#83874 - in reply to #83404)
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hounddog - He's the new guy in town, taking on whatever clients he can get. Around these parts, half the horses don't see a farrier or trimmer, except maybe once or twice a year, tops. Many that do get their feet done regularly are kept barefoot.

(We live in a very depressed part of Maine, sometimes known at "the other state of Maine.") So those of us that do take care of their feet regularly are coveted clients.

He'll stick around, at least for a while. There are a couple other "hoss shoe-ahs" to chose from, but I prefer this guy to them. One is a short-tempered A-rab who thinks very little of woman, and the other is a pig, who makes suggestive and sexist remarks. I'll happily keep my female trimmer and the shoer who shows up with his very pleasant wife to hand him his tools.

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amysbean
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2008-05-16 2:48 PM (#84084 - in reply to #83404)
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heck yes, i tip my farrier.  we don't have many good ones in this area to begin with, so i want to make sure i am one of his good customers.  when i have an 'emergency' (shoe comes off right before a show), he is usually able to work me into his schedule.  his prices are low to average in this area, also, and he hasn't gone up even tho he does some driving to get here (35 to 45 minutes.)  if i remember correctly, he charges about $30 to trim and $75 for 4 shoes (hot shoes or whatever it is called when farrier heats the shoes to shape them.)  i tip about $10 per horse that gets shoes and $5 per horse that is trimmed. 
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Linda Y
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2008-05-16 5:55 PM (#84098 - in reply to #83404)
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Yes, I do. It isn't much as I am a poor girl. But he shows up on time, drives a long way and is great with the horses. So, I at least give him enough to buy lunch.
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luvmywalkers
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Posted 2008-05-18 9:42 PM (#84179 - in reply to #83730)
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Actually your quite wrong, I've been in the horse world for 20 years now. Seems like to me a lot of farriers, aren't really farriers,certified, and their the ones that act like they know and have shod every type of horse. I'm not saying all of them are bad, but most of them are so full of it, it's comical. They spend have the time trying to convince me their so rich. So I really care ? NO, just do your job, get paid and go to the next. Then down the road you hear, they don't have anything, living in an apartment above someone else's barn, the last one I had is hiding from the IRS. So don't go telling me I'm ignorant, obviously your the ignorant one. No, I am very nice to them, but when you run up to the house to get him cold water and ice, then after they leave you find things missing, that's a different story. Say what you want, most the good farriers up around here have gotten older and can't do it any long because of back problems, etc. Seems like a lot of them around here are young, couldn't work at other jobs, so said, well, I try this out. Within a year their gone...lol. Really know and care about their profession. Half of the people have gone to shoeing there horses themselves, may take longer to get done, but at least it's done right. I'm not saying it's an easy job, far from it.  Yes I was paying 135.00 per horse, plus paying 25.00 for 4 shoes. I now am doing the natural trimming, and my horses feet look very good. Their in great shape and are gaiting up a storm.

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siseley
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2008-05-19 8:35 PM (#84253 - in reply to #83404)
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Juyst sneakin in....

Just curious, how many hours and miles do you ride a week?

I know here we put in no less than 40 miles a week, and maybe 8 miles a day, and the soil and rocks of the high desert will certainly do a number on most horses hooves.  Our farrier is BOTH highly skilled, and certified, as well as a very nice guy. Sooo... he gets the royal treatment from us and after three back surgerys, I no longer yearn to be a shoer!

Ours really deserves his pay.

Just my 2C'S.....Steve

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flyinghfarm
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Posted 2008-05-20 1:22 PM (#84328 - in reply to #83404)
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In most communities, you will find a professional certified experienced farrier or two, they are covered up with work.........and they tend to hang onto the clients that are knowledgeable, good attitude, good pay, and good horsemen, with well mannered animals. 

 The other clients wind up filtering on down the food chain for the new just-out-of-school guys & gals or the weekend hobby farriers to struggle with.  Just seems that way.

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