Posted 2008-04-17 9:45 AM (#82172 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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my friend with four horse used it for a long time then she read that older horses have a problem with( the fly control stuff) toxic. the older horse can not Handel the load I do not know were she read it I will ask if you wont me to when I see her again
Posted 2008-04-17 1:03 PM (#82181 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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I used the simplify brand on 4 of mine and it didn't seem to help. I didn't see any difference. Then I read where it is harmful to mares, so I stopped using it. I have thought about the fly predators, but they told me you have to keep putting them out. I think it would help in the barn, but my guys are out 24/7 unless bad weather.
Posted 2008-04-17 1:56 PM (#82185 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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I've never used it because I was told that unless your neighbors are using it also, it is useless. Our neighbors to one side of us and to the back of us both have cattle. So it would not do any good to control my flies just to have their flies come over for a party. I hang fly strips in the barn. That seems to help as much as anything.
Posted 2008-04-17 2:40 PM (#82187 - in reply to #82181) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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I"ve used the fly predators,and,I could tell a difference in the house and stable flies,of course.Not the bigger flies that are popular around here for cattle and come out of the woods.Crop dusters might help with those.
Posted 2008-04-17 6:56 PM (#82197 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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We used the equitrol for years with no problems. There are/ were no other animals around us (mostly farm land) so we had almost no flies. Here there are to many others that make no attempt to control the files. The biggest thing with any "feed" through product is to know what your animals weigh. Don't guess or you could be over/under dosing them. Which can be dangerous.
Posted 2008-04-18 8:49 PM (#82239 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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We used Equitrol I for several years. There used to be clouds of flys around the horses and us (when saddling). It was most annoying. The Equitrol I was Rabon based, then they did away with it and went to Equitrol II. The new stuff is insect growth regulator based. (Just like the flea spray used in homes) It is effective in our situation. The horses are in several pastures that are spread over about 15 acres. I haven't tried the fly predators since they don't travel very far. While the horses roam the pastures dropping fly condos all over. I like the feed through stuff since it treats each fly condo and gets the horses in for a hand full of grain and fly stuff each day. The key to successful control is to start early before the flys get hatched.
Posted 2008-04-18 10:41 PM (#82254 - in reply to #82239) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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We have had a rather prolonged winter here which is unusual.So,probably along about Feb.in my part of the country I would imagine? There are cattle right next door,and across the road,too.WHich,their owners do absolutely NOTHING for them,not even fly rubs.
Posted 2008-04-19 5:02 AM (#82263 - in reply to #82254) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2008-04-18 9:41 PM
We have had a rather prolonged winter here which is unusual.So,probably along about Feb.in my part of the country I would imagine? There are cattle right next door,and across the road,too.WHich,their owners do absolutely NOTHING for them,not even fly rubs.
I wonder if the flies are different between cattle and horses... Then there are the fly motherships... The flies that are about an inch long and can bite through a shirt! I've seen plans to build fly traps that use a black ball as a lure. Anybody ever build & use it ?
Posted 2008-04-19 7:55 PM (#82291 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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CRG . . . I use Simplifly and Fly Predators and have been virtually fly free. I've used this combination going on 3 years now. Yes the feed through works.
Posted 2008-04-20 8:34 PM (#82323 - in reply to #82263) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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Just today,I noticed that the dreaded "teat" flies are out now.By that I mean,that is where they attack my mares,and I have to smear that pink SWAT ointment on them until these devils vanish.They are striped,kind of a grey color,and have greenish heads,and just swarm around like crazy.I think they are some sort of a 'cow'fly myself.
Posted 2008-04-20 8:45 PM (#82326 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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I've used Simplifly and noticed a big difference the last couple of years. I decided to try Fly Predators this year, but did not know you could use Simplifly at the same time. I think I'll go out and buy a new tub of Simplify before the flys really kick in.
Posted 2008-04-20 11:46 PM (#82336 - in reply to #82326) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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Well,they are just awful here,in this Delta,is all I can say.Them and the thousands of mosquitoes.The only thing(s) that we really do not have here are: ticks,and chiggers.We have to go to the hills/woods for those! But at least you can protect yourself against them with some DEET sprayed on your clothes.(Not DDT,N2Ridin,ha ha!As you know!)
Posted 2008-04-23 8:26 PM (#82519 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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Almost off topic but still about bugs.... I heard the other day that Listerine - yup the mouthwash is really effective in chasing away mosquitos. Just get the cheap stuff and spray it around camp, etc (maybe not on the equines themselves but around your chair, etc and it is super effective for that. I use Bounce sheet fabric softener tied on my bridle and one in a shirt pocket or on my hat to control mosquitos while riding. They work great!
Posted 2008-04-24 4:31 AM (#82535 - in reply to #82519) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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I wouldn't think that you would have mosquitos where you live.Not nearly as bad as we do? This is downright "swampy" around here in the summer,and all of this rain we've had this spring sure isn't going to help matters.
I've gotten info about "Bugcheck" from the website Natural Vet and it would be fine,only,we have too many to feed it to everyone.Expensive I imagine.I'd like to try something natural like it.
Posted 2008-04-26 1:02 PM (#82643 - in reply to #82144) Subject: RE: feed through fly control
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We live in an area that is 2' below sea level with dikes all around us. The ocean is about a mile away and the area we live in has huge deep drown-in type ditches (the kind you don't won't your horse/mules to back into) and a canal that runs from one end of the river delta to the ocean - all this for drainage. So there are lots of mosquitos in summer because of all the water drainage areas. Our farm is bordered by ditches on 2 sides and a canal on 1 side so the mosquitos are rampant in the summer (probably not as bad as a swampy area though). The flies aren't too bad though. Where we live is very flat so when we want to ride hills, we have to trailer the animals inland about 3 hours to find anything that resembles a hill. The coastal mountains are about 50 miles away and the cascade mountains that go through BC and Washington state are about 80 miles away. So now I'm really off topic! Time to go ride my mules before I bore everyone to death!!