Posted 2005-12-21 3:20 PM (#34286 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 28 Location: Omaha, NE
One draw back to the ramp, they can get slippery at times, when we had a ramp we had to use shavings to give the horses footing during unloading, you may not have that problem in Georgia. Even with that, I do like the ramp as horses that are used to step-up load/unload easily with a ramp, this is not the same for horses use to a ramp, loading and unloading can take some patience. Also the ramp allows you to haul 4 wheelers, tractors, etc.... By the way, we have a ramp on our bumper pull and a step up on our goose neck.
Posted 2005-12-21 3:43 PM (#34288 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 47 Location: defun,fl
Is there some kind of device that can assist in lifting the ramp in addition to the springs? Does anyone know how much weight it feels like you are lifting when you lift a "spring loaded" ramp like on a CM Dakota?
Posted 2005-12-21 4:48 PM (#34296 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 379 Location: Columbia, TN
Boy a matter of personal prefferenc. I ty my horses to the rear bar and saddle them there. Can't do that with a ramp. I had a Sundowner with one on it and took it off. On the other hand I know people that add them on. People that like them love them and people that don't hate them.
Posted 2005-12-21 5:25 PM (#34297 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 2453 Location: Northern Utah
When I bought my current trailer with a rear tack and mangers, I could no longer allow my horses to turn around inside the trailer and come out head first. This created a real crisis for my 9 yo gelding. He had a heck of a time learning to back out. He would back to the edge and just wouldn't take the step down at the edge. It took several days in the hot July sun to teach him to back out.
My other 4 horses it was no big deal, they backed out first try. So it really depends on your horse. My trailer is several inches tailer than most. So it's a little bigger step than most trailers. I ordered it for Off Road travel where I drive to trailheads at the end of Forest Service access roads. I didn't want to be dragging the bumper over rocks.
My personal opinion is to not complicate the trailer, it's just one more thing I don't have to open/close when getting into the horse compartment.
Posted 2005-12-21 7:56 PM (#34303 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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The Scheve (and someone else) book is "A" book on trailers and trailering, hardly "THE" book.
There is an implied assumption in the quote that ALL ramps have a hollow sound that might be disconcerting to (some) horses, that ALL ramps are inconveniently heavy and/or not adequately sprung, etc., etc.
I think this shows a limited exposure to, and knowledge of, how ramps can be built - by quality builders...
It can be "done right" and is done right by a number of manufacturers.
If you want a trailer with a ramp, find one that is sturdy, doesn't "ring hollow" and has adequate balance springs (for you / your physical capability).
Posted 2005-12-22 12:45 AM (#34309 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 366 Location: Albany, Oregon
The pro and cons have been stated and all good reasons...In my case I bought a trailer without one. A newer G/N. They seem to have a taller deck height to fit the tall trucks nowdays. I thought well I'll just order one and put er on...LOL...spendy after the fact! So if you kinda think you want one get it. They arn't that expensive when you order the trailer. Spendy after the fact, shipping and everything. You can always take it off and put on a rubber bumper...
Posted 2005-12-22 6:58 AM (#34313 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 648 Location: Coconut Creek, FL
Mine has one and I'm glad it does, but I've trailered with step-ups and haven't had any problems. Mine is located inside the rear doors and we have tried to insert a spring, but they were unable to. It can be heavy, but I'm used to it.
It sure did come in handy when I moved and used my trailer. I borrowed a dolly, put 3 boxes on it, wheeled it into the trailer and then back out, across a board right into the house. Saved us a lot of money using movers and we were able to do it on our time.
It's really a matter of preference as explained by all the posts.
Posted 2005-12-22 7:42 AM (#34316 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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I have one on my Exiss Event and while when I bought the trailer it was already on the trailer, and all of my other trailers before this one never had a ramp, I didn't know how I would like having one. I wouldn't be without one again! It is especially nice to access things in my rear tack, especially pulling a saddle down from the top rack. Mine is very lightweight, I can lift it with one finger and it is not hollow sounding, my horse and others have not minded loading with it.
The only negative feeling I have had about one is the horrific thought that while driving away I forgot to put it up! Hasn't happened yet!!!
Posted 2005-12-22 8:08 AM (#34317 - in reply to #34316) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Originally written by MIfarmbabe on 2005-12-22 7:42 AM
I have one on my Exiss Event and while when I bought the trailer it was already on the trailer, and all of my other trailers before this one never had a ramp, I didn't know how I would like having one. I wouldn't be without one again! It is especially nice to access things in my rear tack, especially pulling a saddle down from the top rack. Mine is very lightweight, I can lift it with one finger and it is not hollow sounding, my horse and others have not minded loading with it.
The only negative feeling I have had about one is the horrific thought that while driving away I forgot to put it up! Hasn't happened yet!!!
I did do exactly that with a side ramp, which is the main reason that I know so much about the construction, repair and parts availability of 4-Star trailers (-:
It brought new meaning to "Circle check".
Posted 2005-12-22 3:32 PM (#34331 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 1723 Location: michigan
When I was buying a trailer, the ramp was a low priority item. There was a host of things more important "must-haves" that I wanted before I bothered with a ramp. Turns out the trailer I bought did not have a ramp but since I never had one before, I didn't miss it. I do see advantages but only for the people ( short people like me) not so much for the horses. If a ramp is really important, then by all means, get one. But it the trailer has everything you want and meets your needs, its up to you if the lack of a ramp is deal breaker.
Posted 2005-12-22 3:53 PM (#34334 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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When I bought my new trailer, it was a step up, like my old one. It was custom built to my specs. Because the newer trucks are so darn high off the ground we put a lift kit on the trailer. I didn't mind that it was a bit higher off the ground and my horses did OK with it getting in - no problem. The issue I had was, depending on where I was parked for unloading, the backwards step out could vary by quite a bit. I finally had a ramp added. They do just fine with the ramp too.
Posted 2005-12-22 11:33 PM (#34348 - in reply to #34334) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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My gooseneck is a step-up and my horse does fine with it, either backing out or turning around (preferable) but, there was a time last summer that I was loading a friend's horse, and his leg slipped under the bumper because the ground was wet. It looked like he could have easily broken his leg, but he carefully pulled it out and up, while I literally held my breath. It was amazing that he wasn't hurt. Now I am a little paranoid about that and always carefully check the condition of the ground where the horses will be loading and unloading. Before that incident I didn't think too much about it. At least with a ramp I think you could avert this particular hazard. I want to add a ramp when I can afford it... not sure how they'll do it since I have one a big door, not the double doors.
Posted 2005-12-23 7:19 AM (#34353 - in reply to #34303) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 94 Location: south central pennsylvania
Merry Christmas Reg!
I am curious, just which book do you consider THE guide to horse trailers and trailering? I have read Tom and Neva Scheve's book cover to cover, and while I do not agree with every concept, I have not found a more authoritative, and comprehensive book about trailers and trailering on the market. Perhaps I have missed something at Borders.
I have attended 2 of Neva Scheve's presentations at the Horse Expo, Timonium, Maryland. Concepts difficult for some folks to understand, such as GCWR's and axel ratios were clearly explained as well as many safety issues.
Additionally, Tom Scheve, her husband, was "Mr. Trailer" for this forum in it's early days. He always presented answers clearly and accurately.
Posted 2006-04-01 9:53 AM (#39864 - in reply to #34277) Subject: One of my favorite topics . . .
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This is one of my favorite topics. Reading the posts on this one will tell you why. The only things as exciting are short bed vs. long bed, goose neck vs. tag along, aluminum vs steel, SDs or Brenderups.
One we ought to discuss sometime is trained to load vs not trainedto load and why that is, if the horse has been with the owner for a while . . .
Posted 2006-04-01 5:42 PM (#39871 - in reply to #39864) Subject: RE: One of my favorite topics . . .
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Originally written by RollinPonies on 2006-04-01 10:53 AM
This is one of my favorite topics. Reading the posts on this one will tell you why. The only things as exciting are short bed vs. long bed, goose neck vs. tag along, aluminum vs steel, SDs or Brenderups.
One we ought to discuss sometime is trained to load vs not trainedto load and why that is, if the horse has been with the owner for a while . . .
roll on
Straight vs Slant.
GM vs Ford vs Chryco.
Diesel vs Gas.
DRW vs SRW.
Ya think we'd have a FAQ by now ?
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Here's one of MY most FGAs (frequently given answers).
"Please search for previous posts on this topic. It has been covered several times in the recent past and you can find previous answers much faster than we can re-write them."
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Posted 2006-04-01 7:00 PM (#39874 - in reply to #34277) Subject: RE: Ramp vs. No Ramp
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Posts: 47 Location: defun,fl
I just bought a sl bp trailer with a ramp to replace my sl bp without a ramp. My horses love it. They don't jump out the back anymore. This made me nervous a few times when we had trouble finding a "non-swampy" place to load and unload. They take their time walking out. The ramp can be lifted with a few fingers, it is spring loaded. I made a point of pressing my toe on the ramp before they stepped onto it the first few times, so that it didn't move when they stepped on it. It has very grippy matting.
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