Posted 2005-05-13 4:32 PM (#25078 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Location: oklahoma city,okla.
If you can get me a sample I'LL TEST IT. the product has been used on featherlight ,sundowner,essex,sooner stidham,chrokee,forestar and many more, with no problems.
Posted 2005-05-13 5:02 PM (#25080 - in reply to #25052) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Posts: 170 Location: Minnesota
I believe I did read enough. You stated on the web site 2 1/2 - 3 gal for 16 - 20 ft. My trailer is 37 ft or 5 - 6 gal of your product or $85 plus @ the $17 rate. I save less than $15 and have the labor. I beleive I will stay at the $100 for a commerical job. I have been doing for many years with no problems. You sound like a good salesman.
Posted 2005-05-13 8:13 PM (#25085 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Posts: 195 Location: Atlanta, GA
The trailer brands that you mentioned do not have the bright (polished) aluminum on them. This is a rather new product being used on horse trailers now. (real pretty) I will try to see if someone will provide a sample for you to test. It would be nice to know if your product is safe for this type of alum.
Posted 2005-05-14 12:16 AM (#25092 - in reply to #25085) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Dave I,m also in the power wash business,wish you live in okla I,d like your business. If you out west a few of the truck wash places use our product due to EPA they don't like Acid. because it removes a layer of aluminum each time its used. thanks gary
Posted 2005-05-14 7:47 AM (#25098 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Posts: 195 Location: Atlanta, GA
It only removes a minute amount of the mill finish only. The acid is removed almost immediately. usually one person is puttng it on while another is rinsing it off. It does not sit on your trailer... And I have never heard of washing a trailer eating it thin. But you know its nice to have other choices when it comes to cleaning your trailer. I would like to try your product for my gerneral cleaning and pay someone else to acid wash when it is time for that. But I believe the question was about cleaning an American Spirit. I think that every one would like to know if your product is safe for it. And again I will try to get a sample or if there is some one out there who has access to this alum product and would be willing to provide a sample it would be very nice too.
Posted 2005-05-14 11:29 AM (#25112 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Location: oklahoma city,okla.
I,ve worked with acid for 15 years I,m well aware of the damage it can do.
to painted metal, raw aluminum,and humans. as long as the right mix is maintained no problem,but you can't very much. before we develop rail cleaner we sold a lot of acid still have customers that use our acid. well enough said I have a excellent product for people who are concerned about the enviroment, their safty and live too far from a truck wash. I know their is a market --all you have to do is drive by an event anywhere in the us and you'll see more dirty trailers than kleen.
Posted 2005-05-14 12:44 PM (#25114 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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I think I believe the following to be (more or less) true;
Aluminum and the alloys of it that are used in horse trailers "oxidize" in the presence of air and water (moisture). This causes them to turn darker, which many find unattractive and regard as "dirty".
The initial layer of oxide on the surface forms a protective film, slowing futher oxidation.
There are a very limited number of ways to remove the layer of oxide(s), primarily acids and abrasives.
Black streaks come from the initial formation of oxide that gets washed off and down the sides of the trailer.
I am curious as to what "chemicals" are being marketed for cleaning aluminum trailers that are not acidic, i.e. if not acids what ARE they and how do they remove the layer of oxides ? (chemically).
What chemicals in the "treatments" is used to retard the formation of oxides and how do they do that ? I mean CHEMICALLY, how do they do that ?
Alternatively, how do they form barriers to air and moisture (oxygen and water) ?
Posted 2005-05-16 4:27 PM (#25182 - in reply to #24567) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Location: Oklahoma
The chemicals at AFPchemical.com is the best products to use. I have 2 miles of dirt road and my trailer looks brand new! You can use as much or as little as you want, depending on how dirty it is. The best part is you don't have to wax the white skin after washing like you do when you have is acid washed! Its easy to use, just spray it on and rinse it off, no scrubbing! Try it, you'll love it.
Posted 2005-05-16 4:55 PM (#25185 - in reply to #25182) Subject: RE: Acid wash for trailers
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Originally written by zipzipzippo on 2005-05-16 4:27 PM
The chemicals at AFPchemical.com is the best products to use. I have 2 miles of dirt road and my trailer looks brand new! You can use as much or as little as you want, depending on how dirty it is. The best part is you don't have to wax the white skin after washing like you do when you have is acid washed! Its easy to use, just spray it on and rinse it off, no scrubbing! Try it, you'll love it.
Tyler
Hi and Welcome to the Forum.
Tell me WHAT it is first.
Tell me HOW it works.
Tell me HOW it removes aluminum oxides.
Maybe I'll love it, maybe I won't.
Acid wash for trailers
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