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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-13 2:50 PM (#55493)
Subject: Titan Avalanche - Good/Bad?


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Do you have experience with the Titan Avalanche trailers? I am looking at both a 2 horse slant gooseneck and 2 horse slant bumper load trailers. The price seems much less for these trailers (both new and used) than for comparable trailers. I wonder if there are problems with the Titan trailers and if I am better off buying from a different manufacturer. Thank you for advice.
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-02-13 8:53 PM (#55508 - in reply to #55493)
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Sorry I won't be much help, I am wondering the same thing! I have been researching what I'd call mid-priced trailers. I think what keeps this model priced lower than others is that the Avalanches are heavy. Empty it weighs over 3500#- pretty hefty compared to alum & alum skinned. I was told by a dealer who doesn't sell them anymore that they are a good solid trailer. She tried to sell me a Cotner, which is about $2000 more. If you don't want to shell out the money for the alum skin, or the alum, Galvaneal is a good alternative, from what I am told. As I said, I am not much help, but do know there are others out there scratching our heads too! I am leaning toward the Avalanche I
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Kansashoss
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2007-02-14 6:48 AM (#55529 - in reply to #55493)
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I have a 2003 Titan Classic GN, 2 horse slant load, and it is a terrific trailer.  I'd purchase another Titan trailer in a nanno-second. 
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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-14 8:30 AM (#55536 - in reply to #55529)
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Thank you. Do you find the trailer is heavier and more difficult to pull than an aluminum trailer? I will be pulling with a Ford F-150 5.4 V8.
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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-14 8:31 AM (#55537 - in reply to #55508)
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Thanks for your information
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shequila16
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2007-02-14 9:03 AM (#55539 - in reply to #55537)
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  We have a 3-horse slant bumper pull and LOVE it!!  It's the nicest trailer out of all of our friends!  If I were you I'd get the 3-horse BP.  The weight and price isn't much more but you get a lot of extra room.  Very well built and pulls great and they also stand behind their product.  What state are you in??
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-02-14 9:14 AM (#55541 - in reply to #55493)
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Is your truck equipped with a factory-installed towing package? I think that is key. With the factory-installed package you can verify the towing capacity through Ford. I had an 01 F150 5.4L V8 - with it I towed an older Pioneer, weighing at least #3000 empty, if not more. When towing one of my smallish QH's it pulled fine. But when loaded with both horses, the truck seemed to struggle, especially on hills (not terribly steep ones) - When I totalled that truck, I bought an 07 Silverado with a 5.3L and factory installed towing package. I can definitely feel a difference towing my Pioneer. It handles it much better and doesnt seem to be straining. I am still seriously considering the Avalanche I, which is a stock combo, but still weighing in at over #3000 (I have to verify this with my dealer) - I am not concerned about the towing ability of my Chevy at all. I would have been very concerned with my F150. I am still researching however, and would still like to find something that doesn't weigh as much - hoping to get a bit better gas mileage. But I haven't found anything else in my price range that suits my needs better than this Avalanche I. The dealer is willing to customize it to my needs including adding an escape door in the horse area and putting a vent on the roof of the dressing room so that my daughter and I can "camp" in it. It offers a DR that is big enough for that. And the saddle racks can go in the rear. But I am going to look a bit more, just to be sure I haven't overlooked any other possibilities.
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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-14 10:25 AM (#55546 - in reply to #55493)
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Thank you
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-02-14 10:32 AM (#55547 - in reply to #55493)
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I just got off the phone with the dealer and he reported that the Avalanche I & II weigh in at about #3540
After talking to this guy, and reading the other posts here, I am very close to making a purchase. I still have to have it shipped because there are no dealers anywhere in New England.
Your best bet to find out how your truck will tow it is to talk to your Ford dealership and then call Titan or a Titan dealer. They answered all my questions.
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Kansashoss
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2007-02-15 6:49 AM (#55595 - in reply to #55536)
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When I only had an F-150 to tow with I had a steel 2 horse bumper pull.  As others have mentioned, with one horse in it and driving very alertly I had no problems.  When I was ready for a GN I bumped up to an F-250 because I would never consider pulling a GN w/ a F-150 because of the dangers it created for me and others on the road. 

Good luck in your search.

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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-15 10:01 AM (#55608 - in reply to #55595)
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Thank you. I would be grateful if you would spell out what dangers you are referring to. I have had several point me to some GN trailers that I could safely use with my F-150
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shequila16
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2007-02-15 10:46 AM (#55610 - in reply to #55608)
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JM,

We pull our 3-horse BP with our Chevy Silverado 1500.  It has the bigger engine and the towing package, but we have had NO problems, not even with long hauls or hills.  We usually have 2 horses in it, but have had 3 for shorter trips.  The weight between the 2 and 3 horse was not much.

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nd deb
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2007-02-15 4:12 PM (#55632 - in reply to #55493)
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I have the upper end of the titan trailers.  The renegade line and I really like my trailer.   I have a 3 horse gn and it pulls great.  Not heavy at all.   I bought my trailer new back in 98.  It has really held up well too.  Pics of it can be seen at http://www.debknudson.freewebspace.com/photo2.html

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statzk
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2007-02-16 9:52 PM (#55702 - in reply to #55493)
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This summer when my wife and I were looking to buy a 3H BP trailer we were seriously considering the AV II.  There were two things that stopped us, which may or may not be a concern to you-

The first major issue was the weight.  The empty 3H weighs in a 4050 lbs.  It only has a GVWR of 7000 lbs.  That leaves less than 3K for 3 horses and tack.  Not much of an issue if you don't have big horses, however both ours are well over 1K, mine alone is 1650, with my wifes saddlebred at 1200 we would be overloaded by the time we got saddles & tack in, much less a 3rd horse.  Now granted, our Dodge 1500 was only rated at 7800, but 800lbs makes a lot of difference.  We went with a trailer that had 4500lb heavy duty axles (I believe they can be ordered on the AVII, but not the ones in stock at the dealer we went to).

The other issue was the drop down feed doors- I am 6'3" tall and had to stretch to reach them to get them open.  My wife is 6' tall and could not reach the top of the feed doors.  Not much use if you can't reach them to open them, the trailer needs running boards or a step ladder!  None of the other trailers we looked at had this issue.

It still was a nice trailer and if they had one in stock with 4500lb axles I would probably own it instead of the more expensive Featherlite we bought.  I also would have added some running boards to it as well!

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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-02-19 2:38 PM (#55848 - in reply to #55702)
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Thank you all for your helpful thought.
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Gunnerhorse
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-03-07 5:41 PM (#56839 - in reply to #55493)
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I would encourage you to get the Avalanche.  I don't think you will be disappointed, and if you are, they tend to hold their resale value well. I had a 2003 Avalanche II that was great.  It maintained well, hauled true, and my horse was comfortable hauling in it. (I have a 15.2 1100# rather long-bodied,big butted QH  It also never leaked. Yes, they are a bit heavy at 3250, but, they are DOUBLE WALLED strong, strong, steel.  Other all steel trailers may be lighter, but are they single or double walled? 

The importance of that hit home, (no pun intended,) when my trailer was totalled this past fall. I was sideswiped by a box truck, I W/B, it E/B, both of us travelling approximately 50-55mph.  The left fender and both left wheels were sheared off, frame bent, and I ran off the road over a ditch thru a fence and came to rest in a field, fortunately upright.  The wood floor didn't break or splinter and the box itself stayed whole. My horse fell under the divider and was cast in the trailer.  The outside skin was peeled back but the inside wall was INTACT! He was not hurt. (I did have good shipping boots on him--a MUST!!!) The rivets on the rumber lined interior part were popped out a bit but even as he thrashed to get up, his feet NEVER went through.  What more can you ask for? Would I still have my horse if I'd had an aluminum trailer, or a cheaper, lighter steel one??  Granted, one can't predict an accident, had it been a T-bone however many thicknesses of steel vs. aluminum prob would be irrelevant, but I'm replacing it with another Titan.   Oh, as for the drop-down windows, I'm 5'3 in my horseshoes, ;) and I always had to stand on the fenders to reach them. I found this to be no big deal; the tie ring was nearby to hold onto.  The 2006 I looked at the window handle seemed to be modified in a way that was more awkward to open and the fenders were harder to climb onto and stay on. Very annoying, but not enough to prevent me from purchasing. I'll be getting an '07. Hopefully, Titan has realized that modification wasn't an upgrade and gone back. ;)

Sorry for the length, but I think these trailers are great.

 

 

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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-03-07 9:16 PM (#56849 - in reply to #56839)
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Thanks for the great post. I'm not the original poster on this thread, but I have been following it closely. I made the big decision and ordered my 2-horse Avalanche III, on Monday. Of course, I have been having second thoughts, and what ifs, and wondering if I spent my money wisely. Now I feel very confident that I made the best choice I could, considering my budget.
I was very pleased with all the flexibility I had when configuring my trailer. Titan is willing to "build to suit," and allowed me to order exactly what I needed a la carte. Some of the other trailers in this price range, did not offer options like an escape door at the first horse (hard to find in a 2 horse slant!) or a variety of gate choices.
All in all, it was a good buying experience. Now I am even more satisified with my choice, considering your terrible experience. So happy to hear no one was hurt.
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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-03-08 10:30 AM (#56871 - in reply to #56839)
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Thank you very much. I appreciate your disaster story. I am carrying good cutting horses so safety is a big concern. Safety is why I am more interested in a GN trailer. Was your trailer a GN or BP?
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LEC Trail Rider
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-03-08 12:53 PM (#56883 - in reply to #55493)
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Location: Near Wheeling, WV
I have been "borrowing" a Titan Avalanche II from a friend for @ 3 years; I am finally getting my own trailer, mainly because I now have some horse health issues and will need to go to a vet hospital quite frequently over the next few months with my mare. I also have done most of the maintenance on my friend's trailer FOR HER, so I have a little bit of an opinion about it.

This is a 2 horse, slant load BP with a dressing room. It is OK - I do not like the BIG door on the rear; sometimes it will not stay open, depending on how level the ground is and if you do not have a helper, the door is a pain in the butt. The trailer is showing rust already; 4 years after purchase, around the edges, etc. I put all new brakes on it last fall, for $ 575.00 - the brake pads had dry rotted, even though there was not much use in the trailer. (Guess that is normal though.) I would prefer the straight load; the slant load divider does not always stay put on the wall; you might open the trailer and find it flopping against your horse - I did! I pull it with a Nissan Titan - a Titan, pulling a Titan - funny - and it is fine. Use wt distribution hitch ALWAYS.
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J.M.
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-03-08 2:18 PM (#56887 - in reply to #56883)
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Gunnerhorse
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-03-08 11:22 PM (#56905 - in reply to #55493)
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Hi all,

My trailer was a 2H BP Slant load w/ DR, and I used a weight distribution system.  I second that about always using the weight distribution. It is a big, heavy trailer. That's my only worry about getting another one. I feel like it's really big and wide, though I've compared it with other slants and it's no wider.  I'm just a little gunshy- esp. on 2 lane roads with on coming traffic!

I had the 1 piece rear door and although it could be a pain when alone, I actually preferred it over the double rear doors and ordered it that way. If it didn't stay open I would just tie it with one of my spare lead ropes.  Re. the rust, I had some on the rear bumper, and a few other exposed parts of the frame. I do admit I was surprised as I thought the entire trailer was galvaneeled (sp?) steel  and not just the skin. I never had trouble with the divider, neither with it staying closed against my horse, nor shut against the wall. In the accident the bottom of it got bent upwards when he fell under it but it didn't break. I don't remember if it popped open on its own or if I opened it when I got into the trailer.  

A side note on things breaking, food for thought.  I tie when I haul, and  I use breakaway halters. (And I always carry spare halters and leads.) I had my guy in a nylon halter with leather crown.  The tie was nylon with a panic snap attached to the trailer and a bull snap attached to his halter. What broke was the NYLON TIE, right in the middle,  NOT the leather part of the halter, not the buckles, and not the panic or bull snaps.  I don't use bungee ties for fear of it breaking and snapping my horse in the face. I never expected that a nylon tie would break. 

Also, I forgot to mention in yesterday's post that my horse was barefoot on all 4 feet. I don't know if shoes would have made a difference as to his ability to kick thru the walls of the trailer as he was pushing and kicking to get up.  FWIW. 

And he's also not as unattractive as I described him! He's quite handsome actually. And that's not just a proud Mama talking.

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hoorsecrazy97
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-03-20 8:44 PM (#158183 - in reply to #55493)
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I have a titan avalanche II 3 horse slant with larger front tack and I love it! I have no problems or complaints with my trailer. I have friends that have a BP and one friend that has a GN and both love tham as well. It is the perfect trailer that can go anywhere, we do camping out in the middle of nowhere and it seems to have a lot more clearance then my friends that have GN with holding tanks and such. I`ve used the front tack for a sleeping quarters and it`s just big enough for a cott. I`m sad to part with this trailer but have upgraded to a GN with living quarters so the whole family can come along. I would recommend a avalanche trailer to anyone.51
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