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Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor

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Stevevaus
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2012-03-17 5:21 PM (#142217)
Subject: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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Howdy, bought a 2002 CM Competitor(2h slant)

A couple of the marker lights (one all red, one amber and clear) are missing from a side swipe.

Both lights are 1 x 4".

Seems the all red is pretty easy to match - but i've been unable to find anything like the amber and clear. Sure would appreciate any suggestions.

Also, is there a "best way" to replace a fixture that was originally riveted on?

Thanks a bunch.
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skippyvcu
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2012-03-17 7:31 PM (#142222 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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check out etrailer.com.  I have gotten replacement lights there in the past.  On our 2006, the base and lamp are separate pieces.

http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Lights-sf-Clearance_Lights-hs-Rectangle-co-Red_and_Amber.aspx

Where is the amber/clear?  I thought red lights were used on the rear, amber/red was used as fender markers and amber was used on the sides and front.  Could it have been a colored LED with a clear lens?

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Stevevaus
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2012-03-17 7:43 PM (#142223 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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It is amber and clear or white - on the fender above and between the wheels. I've attached a picture.



Edited by Stevevaus 2012-03-17 7:47 PM
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BigT
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-03-17 10:08 PM (#142227 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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I see how you can be confused about the fender clearance light, one is missing, and the on the other side it looks clear/white, but it is faded red.You can't have white lights on the side of the trailer, the fender clearance light is amber to the front, and red to the back. If you can't find it locally, contact the manufacture, and find out the closest dealer, or go to the largest horse trailer dealer close to you.....I have to correct myself about the white/clear lights, you could have them on a trailer (loading lights) but they can't be on while moving.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-03-17 10:14 PM (#142228 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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Ebay has literally thousands of marker lights available at reasonable pricing. Every style, shape and bulb type. Shop for competitive costs.
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-03-18 8:58 AM (#142233 - in reply to #142227)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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Originally written by BigT on 2012-03-17 10:08 PM

I see how you can be confused about the fender clearance light, one is missing, and the on the other side it looks clear/white, but it is faded red.You can't have white lights on the side of the trailer, the fender clearance light is amber to the front, and red to the back. If you can't find it locally, contact the manufacture, and find out the closest dealer, or go to the largest horse trailer dealer close to you.....I have to correct myself about the white/clear lights, you could have them on a trailer (loading lights) but they can't be on while moving.


Just to confirm ... BigT is correct. You may rely on his info
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Stevevaus
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2012-03-18 10:52 AM (#142238 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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Thanks to all . . . and a couple follow-up questions.

Can I replace an old standard fixture with LED without changing others at the same time?

If I do replace entire fixtures what's the best way to remove old ones that seem to be riveted on; and what's the best way to attach new ones? Do I need to buy a rivet tool? If so is there a decent low cost option?

THANKS - this is all new to me - long time horseman - first time trailer owner! Love this forum!
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BigT
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2012-03-18 8:52 PM (#142250 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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I have mixed LED and regular lights without any problems.Your lights have been installed with pop rivets, to remove them you drill them out, not with the size of the total rivet head,but with the size of the stem, most likely with a 1/8" or 3/16" drill bit. A pop rivet tool with a small supply of rivets should cost around $10.00. Where the pop rivet goes through the trailer metal is where the light gets it ground, make sure you have clean exposed metal around the hole. If later you have a light that won't work or is dim, and you already replaced the bulb, most likely it would be a bad ground, which you would do the same as replacing a pop rivet.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-03-18 10:09 PM (#142253 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor


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If you have an aluminum trailer, use aluminum pop rivets to affix the light. If it's a steel trailer, use steel pop rivets, not aluminum; the metals should be compatable. The grounding can be enhanced by abrading the area near the rivet holes, and adding some dielectric grease to the area between the lights' mounting plate and the trailer body, before the rivet is installed.

Over sized rivets are available if the holes are enlarged when the heads are drilled off. It is also possible to use pan head SS sheet metal screws to hold the light assy, if the rivets can't adequately secure the new fixture.

Before the new light is installed, it's a good idea to add sealant around the bottom of the lights' base circumference, before it is placed against the trailer's body. This will prevent water from entering the trailer through the wiring hole, and lessen the chance of moisture degrading the wiring connection. This will look and seal better, than running caulking around the outside of the base after the light is installed.

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siseley
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2012-03-19 10:12 AM (#142271 - in reply to #142217)
Subject: RE: Replacing side marker lights on CM Competitor



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Gard is absolutely correct. You could use a sheet metal screw to affix the fixture, but should use a compatible metal like stainless for aluminum or steel. I did much the same thing,and scraped a light lens off, ( I have no idea where that Joshua tree came from!), and went to www.adventurev.net to get a nice led light, and put it on with a dab of silicone underneath to seal it, and seal the wire where it comes through the fender for abrasion protection. I also used stainless screws.
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