Posted 2010-08-04 9:07 PM (#123198) Subject: What can I pull....
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Posts: 30 Location: Belton, MO
I have tried and tried to figure this out. We currently have a EXISS 300 that hubby has finished out. However we want a bigger trailer with LQ. We have a 2007 Dodge 2500 HD Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel 5.9 Liter. What can we pull safely? How do we figure this out? Any help greatly appreciated. Would like at least a 10 - 12 ft SW 3 or 4 horse. 8ft wide with mangers
Posted 2010-08-04 10:44 PM (#123204 - in reply to #123198) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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Originally written by bbbb3288 on 2010-08-04 9:07 PM
I have tried and tried to figure this out. We currently have a EXISS 300 that hubby has finished out. However we want a bigger trailer with LQ. We have a 2007 Dodge 2500 HD Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel 5.9 Liter. What can we pull safely? How do we figure this out? Any help greatly appreciated. Would like at least a 10 - 12 ft SW 3 or 4 horse. 8ft wide with mangers
Well in my opinion (and I know way more about the truck side than I do the trailer end) I would say like the above post, an 8' SW, 8' wide 3 horse with mangers will pretty much be the safe limit. But all will depend on the weight of the trailer too. All the extra spring will do for you is set the truck level while loaded and make it ride like a wagon unloaded. Airbags is the best bet for a good and level ride, but neither one will increase your tow rating of your truck.
I have a cab n chassis 07.5 Dodge Ram 3500 (12,500gvwr)and pull a 10'LQ, 8' wide 3 horse with mangers (9500/10-k empty weight) and WOULD NOT think about hooking it to a 3/4 ton truck.
This will give you an idea of what your truck is rated for. If I have my information correct, there is a brake size difference between the 2500 and 3500. Towing is only half of the battle. Stoping safley is just as, if not more, important.
Posted 2010-08-05 11:46 AM (#123217 - in reply to #123198) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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We had/have a Cherokee 3 H with mangers, 8 wide and 10 ft shortwall. Was pulling it with an 07 Dodge 2500 2 WD 4 door with air bags. Totaled the rig in an accident where a tree had fallen across the road. Replaced with identical trailer but went up to a 1 ton dually truck. Accident was not related to being under trucked but after pulling this rig with a 1 ton dually I would never ever go back to a 3/4 ton. Trailer is about 10K emtpy. I know people that pull larger trailers, 12 ft shortwalls, with 3/4 ton 4 WD trucks. I wouldnt. Not after having the actual comparison of the 3/4 ton then the 1 ton with dual wheels pulling the same rig. I would say a 3 horse with 8 ft shortwall for a 3/4 ton truck to be really stable and safe.
Posted 2010-08-05 11:52 AM (#123218 - in reply to #123198) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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bbbb3288, I would say, absolutely forget the 12' SW LQ, 4 H with a 2500. You shouldn't go over max on your pin weight such that you exceed either your total gross allowable or gross allowable on either axle. (These GVW numbers will be in your truck manual and also on the drivers door) The only definative way to know is to hitch up and weigh. However, a rule of thumb is that your pin weight is approximately 25% of the trailer weight. One of my trailers is a 10' SW LQ, all aluminum, 3H with a 2500 Duramax. I have airbags and a proportional brake controller. Pin weight wise, it won't be the empty box of the trailer, but the distribution of weight in the trailer that will get you. With the exception of the fresh water tank, I am light in the nose compared to other LQ's. Also, I will not haul 3 horses. I only haul two in the positions over and behind the axles. On the interstate, I obey my state's big truck and trailer maximum speed of 55 mph. Like an earlier poster said, it's not what you can safely tow, it's your ability to effectively and safely stop your rig.
Posted 2010-08-08 10:38 PM (#123309 - in reply to #123198) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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Posts: 30 Location: Belton, MO
Thanks everyone. We found that the formula is 23,000 lbs for the truck, minus the GVWR rate of the truck at 9000 lbs so the max for the trailer is 13000 lbs to pull so either go up in truck or settle for 8ft sw. I appreciate all the advise. Happy Trails.
Posted 2010-08-09 5:00 AM (#123313 - in reply to #123309) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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Originally written by bbbb3288 on 2010-08-08 11:38 PM
Thanks everyone. We found that the formula is 23,000 lbs for the truck, minus the GVWR rate of the truck at 9000 lbs so the max for the trailer is 13000 lbs to pull so either go up in truck or settle for 8ft sw. I appreciate all the advise. Happy Trails.
Nope, minus the actual weight of the truck. Say if your GCVWR is 23000# and the truck weighs 6000# then in theory you should be able to handle a trailer weighing 17000#. How much does your truck actually weigh...?
Posted 2010-08-09 5:12 AM (#123314 - in reply to #123198) Subject: RE: What can I pull....
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Just to give you a ball park number,my 03 dodge diesel quad cab short bed with me and the wife and full tank of fuel is 7752 lbs. only way to know for sure is to run the scales,only takes a few minute.
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