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Troytexas
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2010-02-27 12:13 AM (#117060)
Subject: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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Hello out there.  I need some opinions - and help.  I am looking into purchasing a 3H slant load, (probably aluminum) horse trailer and I do not know much about them.  I am going to look at a couple of Sundowners.  I am also considering an S&H, 4Star, Double D, and CM.  I am aware of some problems Sundowner has had with older steel framed aluminum trailers.  I have two big mares and like the fact that Sundowner stalls are 42".  My girls are also used to loading into a stock trailer and double doors are important to me.  I trail ride and may camp a couple times a year.

I welcome your thoughts. 

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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2010-02-27 8:18 AM (#117066 - in reply to #117060)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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IMo- its best to make a list of what you want and then what you need in a trailer for your intended use. if you are planning to camp in it then you'll have to figure out that kind of comforts are needed and if you're not, then you can eliminate those trailers with a lq. How much tack,gear,feed ect are you planning to haul..then you'll need some space for stuff. Make sure your looking at all aluminum or steel/ally combos-they look alike but are not. Swing open doors,drop down windows. i am not an expert on construction but I can bang on things and slam them shut to hear if they sound flimsy or not. Look at as many trailers as you can too see differences. brand isn't nearly as important as one might think.
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jim bob
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2010-02-27 10:42 AM (#117070 - in reply to #117060)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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Too answer your question troytexas; the Sundowner steel frame models will usually be fine if they have not been subjected to winter hauling in the north or northeastern areas of the country.  Simply inspect the underneath frame rails and floor supports.

The all aluminum Sundowners are some of the best constructed trailers in the industry; but if your wanting 42" stalls, stay with trailers built after '97.  Good luck to you on your trailer search.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2010-02-27 3:42 PM (#117076 - in reply to #117070)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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Originally written by jim bob on 2010-02-27 11:42 AM

The all aluminum Sundowners are some of the best constructed trailers in the industry;

That statement is NOT shared by everyone

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buckedoff
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2010-02-28 8:37 AM (#117090 - in reply to #117060)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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If you buy a steel/alum skin Sundowner, better buy it cheap because the resale is not strong. The rot in the walls cannot always be seen early enough by a visual inspection. After the factory warranty is up, you are on your own. Lots of these trailers out there for sale, be aware.
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liv to ride
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2010-02-28 10:27 AM (#117093 - in reply to #117076)
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Everyone has their likes and dislikes with trailers as with trucks. I had an all aluminum 720 Sundowner. I wish I still had it. It was a 99 model and one of the best trailers I ever owned. It was well constructed and pulled great. I kick myself everyday for getting rid of it.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2010-02-28 1:40 PM (#117098 - in reply to #117060)
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To me- the important thing its that it will meet my needs and within my price range. My first Horse trailer was inexpensive and was ok for what I wanted to do at that time...but when that changed I had to sell it to buy something else. I was able to buy more trailer and am very happy with it. I knew what I wanted and what I didn't want...brand was a secondary issue for me. It just to happened that the trailer that met most of my needs,wants and budget was a Exiss. Since I had several friends with an Exiss and they were all happy with them, I didn't hesitate to buy it. There are alots of choices so to make your search more manageable, figure out those wants,needs and the budget..then don't bother wasting time on a trailer outside of those parameters.
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Cowgirl-h
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2010-02-28 5:24 PM (#117107 - in reply to #117060)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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I've been in your shoes so I can give you my two-cents worth. Until last year I hauled my horses with a stock trailer, I wasn't sure what I wanted to move up to, I wasn't sure how much I'd be willing to spend, and I wasn't sure if my horses would even like a slant load.

I was going to buy a used steel gooseneck slant load, but my husband talked me into getting aluminum mostly because we were tired of trailers rusting to death! The price of those were higher than i wanted to spend, though, so I really hemmed and hawed. Finally I decided that there was no use spending $10,000 on something that would be much more rusty 5 years down the road and worth half the price, so i did buy a used aluminum for $18,000 and being surprisingly happy even after spending all that money. What I got was a Featherlite. It wouldn't have had to be that brand, but it was one that is sold at a local dealership, they seem to have a decent reputation, they are well known enough that resale should be acceptable, and I liked the specific one i bought as it was in almost brand new shape.

When trailer shopping i decided what I wanted to do. Since I haul to weekend shows I had been either sleeping in my stock trailer (which wasn't very nice), having my husband haul the holiday trailer to shows as well as me coming with the stock trailer (which was a pain) or staying away from the show grounds (which made it tough to do all my horse care) So I decided that at the very least I wanted to sleep in my trailer, so I knew I wanted a gooseneck. I bought a simple 4' shortwall, all it came with was a mattress in the nose, and carpet on the floor, wall and neck. Then for a few hundred bucks I bought a bar fridge, tiny microwave and portable toilet. I used furniture I already had in the trailer - an old arm chair, a wooden TV tray and a dresser for storage. last year I spent several weekends in the trailer and liked it so much that this year I've decided to invest a couple thousand dollars more, and now we are insulating and lining our trailer, and ordered some cupboards. It won't be fancy, but for the cost I'm very, very happy.

You might be happy doing the same thing - buying a basic gooseneck with a nice clean dressing room, and seeing how it goes for you. If you are willing to do your own work you can keep the costs reasonable. Insulating cost me $100, paneling another $400, and the cupboards will be around $1000. I can afford that, and I'm certain that when i resell the trailer in the future it will be a good enough job that we'll get most of our money back, maybe even turn a profit since I was quoted $10,000 to do the front of my trailer professionally in my area.

As for your horses, I was shocked to discover that my horses prefer riding in the slant load compared to the stock trailer. I think it's because the horse trailer is quieter than the stock trailer. Also, being confined in the slant load seems to make them feel safe, they ride quiet and happier. In my case I allow my horses to ride untied, they then eat hay off the floor which works for them. My one tip is - make sure that any slant load you're looking at is long enough for your horse. My 15.2hh Paint mare isn't horribly wide, but she is fairly long. I found that the standard slant load that I have is almost too short for her if she's tied. When she's loose she then lowers her head to eat off the ground much of the time, this gives her alot more space. A horse that was slightly longer would not fit inthe standard slant load well. So I would suggest putting your horse in a trailer of the size you're looking at to see how it works in real life. The salespeople will tell you one thing, but checking it out will give you a better idea than all their advice!

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sweetas
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2010-03-01 8:21 AM (#117125 - in reply to #117060)
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I don't know much about the trailer brands you mentioned (except all the info about the Sundowners - easily found with searches on many different forum sources) - but the 4-Stars were VERY solid trailers when I was looking at them. Of course, I ended up buying an Eby....go figure! It had the floor plan for the LQ I needed and it's also quite solid.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2010-03-01 9:25 AM (#117135 - in reply to #117060)
Subject: RE: Purchasing a horse trailer, yikes!!!


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unless you can do a really good job on a do-it -yourself LQ, be careful as I haven't yet seen one that I'd be willing to buy. Most are rather crude and that will hurt the resale value.
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threeman
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-01 9:48 AM (#117136 - in reply to #117135)
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Everyone makes a big deal about stalls being smaller than 40-42".  I have hauled some big guys with saddles on and have had no problem with stalls being smaller.  Just wanted to share that.  This only applies to QH though.  Warmbloods would not apply.  I think the smaller width gives more support rather than having more room to slosh side to side.  The only trailer I have thrown a horse down in was a slant load with 40" stalls.  No it was not intended.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-03-01 10:16 AM (#117137 - in reply to #117136)
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Originally written by threeman on 2010-03-01 10:48 AM

Everyone makes a big deal about stalls being smaller than 40-42".  I have hauled some big guys with saddles on and have had no problem with stalls being smaller.  Just wanted to share that.  This only applies to QH though.  Warmbloods would not apply.  I think the smaller width gives more support rather than having more room to slosh side to side.  The only trailer I have thrown a horse down in was a slant load with 40" stalls.  No it was not intended.

Our 1100-1200#+ Walking Horses fit nicely in a 30" wide straight load stall. It's a 6 horse head to head. It's 3 stalls wide and each stall is about 30" in width X 10' long.  Trailer has a 96" inside width, 3-30" stalls and 2-3" wide dividers = 96". They'll ride standing there for 700-800 miles, 14-16 hours with no ill effects. I got one filly that likes to shift her butt back and forth in the slant load Silver Star (42" stalls). She stands quietly riding backwards in the 30" wide straight load stall.... No shifting her weight around, no dancing..... Go figure.

Silver Star drawing....

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 30" wide Cherokee Super Chief, straight load stall, (view from the horse's perspective.) below

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3-30" stalls with two 3" wide dividers total width 96". (Got the fans set up at a day show last summer, keeps it nice inside!!) below

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threeman
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2010-03-01 11:21 AM (#117139 - in reply to #117137)
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Thats my experience as well.  I like 36" wide slants.
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2010-03-01 9:18 PM (#117150 - in reply to #117137)
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Man,looks like they've got it rough in there,Rentento!!48
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-03-02 7:01 AM (#117162 - in reply to #117150)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2010-03-01 10:18 PM

Man,looks like they've got it rough in there,Rentento!!48

It was hot that day.... No shade trees, no clouds and 90 something plus degrees. I had the EF3000iseB Yamaha wound up tight. AC was running in the DR, six box fans on high, one 48" fan on wheels outside the trailer blowing up toward the side ramp, all the doors, roof vents and windows open. Part of the time we had to ask people to move out of the way. They would come and stand in the 10' long center area with all the breeze! You would have thought we were giving away shaved ice and Cisco wine coolers!!! Next show we went to at this farm, folks would park close and want to run a cord to my generator to run their fans.... Sorry no can do, I'm maxed out.

 

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sweetas
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2010-03-02 9:51 AM (#117167 - in reply to #117060)
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retento - I saw a similar trailer (I can't remember the brand, 4-star?) at Dixie Horse & Mule when I was there - he had just sold it for a very reduced price. Looked pretty cool (pardon the pun!). Looked like it had lots of flexibility in what/how to haul. Never seen that design before, though!
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