Posted 2009-03-25 10:06 PM (#102106 - in reply to #101968) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Mine are not for sale for ANY price....
Well, unless Mr Trooper is going to pull that card, then I will tell him if he is going to write me a ticket he can also pull out his check book and pay me for my horses. That way he will have a valid reason for writing that ticket.
Posted 2009-03-26 11:03 AM (#102146 - in reply to #101968) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 51 Location: Grundy Center, IA
This has been going on in various areas of the country for several years now. Here in Iowa you hear of some stings similar to this every once in awhile. One site that I would recommend reading is www.motorists.org/other/home/dot-numbering-requirements/. There is some good reading on there about exceptions in regards to your horses (or other similar things such as a race car) as a hobby even if showing with a chance to win some prize money.
At the horse fair coming up in Iowa, one of the topics is going to be transporting your horses and the DOT. Should be interesting.
Posted 2009-03-26 10:17 PM (#102195 - in reply to #102116) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Just like I posted earlier, "don't start nothing, won't be nothing"! Or simple english, drive right and do not give the a reason to stop you. The poopers around here are too busy with the oil field trucks and rock truck to worry about horse trailers.
Unless you are like the guys that passed us over the weekend, driving like they was on fire..... But the poopers got the a few miles down the road.
Posted 2009-03-29 6:06 PM (#102383 - in reply to #101968) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 2828 Location: Southern New Mexico
It's not that easy to get a cdl. I tried when we lived in Tx, took the test and then they said I had to take a driving test with the eqquipment I would be driving so I showed up with my truck/trailer and the examiner said it had to be a 18 wheeler. I don't own a rig and have never driven one. The people at the DMV told me that was the only way to get it.
Posted 2009-03-29 10:51 PM (#102406 - in reply to #102383) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Whoever told you it had to be an 18 wheeler told you WRONG! You can take the test in anything that has a DOT inspection sticker on it. Look at all of the 3/4 ton and 1-ton oil field trucks running around, most all of the have DOT inspections on them.
Posted 2009-03-30 11:13 PM (#102474 - in reply to #101968) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 2828 Location: Southern New Mexico
I emailed the DOT and asked this quiestion back in 2005 and I was told that as long as I was not using the horses, truck or trailer for business and they were licensed as private vehicles ( I'm under 26000lbs) I didn't need a CDL. I still have the emails with the Troupers names and e-mail addresses on them. I had it printed up and in my truck so if I ever had problems I could pull them out to show that was told by their offices that I was legal.
Posted 2009-03-31 11:35 PM (#102539 - in reply to #102474) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Originally written by Terri on 2009-03-30 11:13 PM
I emailed the DOT and asked this quiestion back in 2005 and I was told that as long as I was not using the horses, truck or trailer for business and they were licensed as private vehicles ( I'm under 26000lbs) I didn't need a CDL. I still have the emails with the Troupers names and e-mail addresses on them. I had it printed up and in my truck so if I ever had problems I could pull them out to show that was told by their offices that I was legal.
As long as you are 26-k lbs GVWR or UNDER you can do whatever you want to with personal or farm tags! What they are looking for is the ones running OVER 26-k lbs GVWR!
ie: My Dodge C/C truck and Sundower 8010 3 Horse, F-450's with just about any 3 or 4 horse trailer with a 10' or large LQ, Freightlines, and the Chevy 4500's! The gvwr on my truck is 12-k and the gvwr on my horse trailer is 16-k so I am at 28-k GVWR, that is why I am running FARM tags (they are good for 34-k lbs) but I do nothing for money or to make money with my horses..... So it really does no matter if you weigh you truck and trailer loaded and come up with 26-k or less, if the stickers on the vehicles show more that will get you.....
Posted 2009-04-01 7:28 AM (#102548 - in reply to #102542) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain...
Well, you are in good shape...it is primarily the ones like HTB that have a combined GVWR over 26K that they are going after. I have heard of people being stopped in numerous states back east, and it seems to be getting more common here.
Posted 2009-04-01 4:56 PM (#102592 - in reply to #102542) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Originally written by Terri on 2009-04-01 12:04 AM
Fortunately my truck is tagged at 8800 and my trailer is tagged at 14000. But I just have a 2 1/2 shortwall dressing room, no LQ.
You are just fine with you combination, with 3200lbs to spare!
If these troopers would worry more about the POS 18 wheelers from accross the boarder running worn out tires and leaking air lines and leave the horse people alone we would not have to worry about DOT crap ourself. They are looking for the easy buck, figuring a fancy truck and trailer would be an easy target!
Posted 2009-04-03 3:26 PM (#102706 - in reply to #102592) Subject: RE: CDL Question in Texas? Personal use only
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Posts: 26 Location: Southern New Mexico
"If these troopers would worry more about the POS 18 wheelers from accross the boarder running worn out tires and leaking air lines and leave the horse people alone we would not have to worry about DOT crap ourself. They are looking for the easy buck, figuring a fancy truck and trailer would be an easy target! 60
Have you heard the saying "you can't get blood out of a turnip"? Horse people pay, mexican nationals are covered under NAFTA!
In New Mexico I am not considered commercial with a GVRW of 11500 on pickup and GVRW of 21000 on flatbed but if I cross state lines anywhere around me I become commercial, even though I am hauling for myself. Don't get me wrong I love this country, but it is becoming more and more "socialist" with every wakeing hour. And soon law enforcement will be able to stop you to cee if your animals have the "chip" implanted. But thats another argument.
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