Posted 2008-09-11 10:50 AM (#91305) Subject: Horses alone
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I would like your opinion on horses being kept alone. I have recently brought my horse home to my property (1/2 acre pasture) and my horse is there alone. She has started showing a little aggression when feeding her grain(pinning her ears, putting her butt towards me). My trainer said horses should never be kept alone, they are herd animals and I should fix the situation as soon as possible.
Posted 2008-09-11 11:40 AM (#91313 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 1723 Location: michigan
Thats not really true. Horses, while they like company of another, can get along fine alone. Thats no excuse for bad behavior- period. Don't cut your horse any slack- aggression is not tolerated with out without company. Sounds liek the trainer is looking to sell a horse.
Posted 2008-09-11 12:47 PM (#91319 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 522 Location: Tucumcari NM
Everyone appreciates some company. A little companionship can prevent several bad habits, such as cribbing and pacing. It has been a long-standing practice for race horse owners to provide a goat for company. My horse has a large Boer goat as a companion. Farmbabe is right, though. Agression CANNOT be tolerated!
Posted 2008-09-11 12:49 PM (#91320 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 662 Location: Vanzant, Missouri
I had a gelding that I kept for 6 yrs alone. He never showed any agression.Your mare is being a mare and you need to back her down and be the boss mare or things will just get worst. JMO
Posted 2008-09-11 3:43 PM (#91345 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 317 Location: Barnesville, Ga.
My first horse (who was alone) used to stand in the corner of the field and look thru to the neighbor's place to see their horse. I knew she wanted a companion. I did purchase a second horse and she was much happier. I have other horses especially geldings that could care less. I think it depends on the horse. I like a donkey for a companion also. I have had a jack for about 6 yrs now. We bought him when he was 6 months old and had him gelded before he was a year. He is a great pet and provides good company to the horse he stays with.
Posted 2008-09-11 5:09 PM (#91352 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 1391 Location: North of Detroit, MI
Your mare is trying to be in charge of the herd.. which is YOU and HER. Sometimes I have to remind the top gelding in my herd that **I** Own the hay, when he tries to be too bossy with the other horses. I chase him off the hay and let the other 2 eat. In your case ... you might need to carry a crop with you and when she gets bossy - smack her in the chest to make her back up. (I usually just kick the offending horse in the chest. My kick, with round-toed rubber boots is NOTHING compared to what another horse would inflict.) I Growl at the horse(s) too. (just like kids!! ha ha ha)
So far as being alone. I kept my gelding alone for more than a year. I got him some goats and he was grumpy towards them. Then I got him a pasture buddy. Doing that made him buddy / barn sour. But it was the buddy that would whinny and neigh when I took my horse away. I should have just left him as an only horse. Now I have 3. sigh. 1 person, 3 horses & 2 goats.
Posted 2008-09-11 8:13 PM (#91360 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 27 Location: atwater,ohio
waaay back when I Boarded my Horse, he was turned out in a big pasture with 20 other geldings. He always kept to himself, never really had a Buddy. so when I brought Him Home I had no qualms about keeping him alone and He did fine for years . I have Three Horses Now( you seem to acumulate more when you have your own barn ) , all my Horses have learned to accept being alone at one time or another . I can leave for a weekend and not have to worry if the One Horse left at Home is doing Ok .
I agree that Your Horse NOW thinks of you as part of the Herd. someone has to be the Boss and she sure is trying to be the one . I have also carried a crop and stood over "my" haypile and shooed them all away at one time or another, just so they don,t forget .
Posted 2008-09-12 7:47 AM (#91370 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 270 Location: Roanoke IL
Personally, I think mini horses make better companions than goats. Mini horses are far more fun too....just make sure your big horse gets acquainted with the little one before turning them out together. Miniatures are so fun, and in my opinion cuter than goats. You can drive a mini, but you can't drive a goat. At least he'd be a companion that you could use in some way. On 1/2 an acre, I'd stick with a small buddy for your horse. And as everyone said, the agression is proably coincidental. There's no excuse for it.
Posted 2008-09-12 8:51 AM (#91375 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 316 Location: Illinois
My biggest problem with goats is I've seen too many that will eat the mane and tail off of your horse. They will do this in a lush grass pasture even. Not all goats do this and many of you may have been fortunate not to have had this problem, but it is something one considering a companion goat should be aware of.
Posted 2008-09-12 2:10 PM (#91392 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 1391 Location: North of Detroit, MI
First - a goat CAN be trained to drive. The Alpines and Nubians are very good at it.
Second - yes goats can chew on horse tails. Knock on wood, neither of mine show any interest - the goats and horses all co-mingle in the fields. I use woven mesh fence and installed hanging boards below my gates to prevent their escape. Perhaps because I make sure they have loose Goat Minerals, loose salt, and baking soda, they have no interest in chewing on tails or other things. They do pretty well on the weeds but not all of them. (I have pygmy and an Alpine. both does. DO NOT get a buck goat, they pee on everything - marking their territory)
Mini horses are fun (stop here! buy one!!) They may require a dry lot to avoid becoming obese and ending up with IR and laminitis/founder. They also live much longer than standard size horses. Their fencing needs are a little different from horse fencing, i.e., lower to the ground if you use wire, tape, fiberglass belting, boards, etc.
Consider the foot trimming and alternative vaccinations required too. I was fortunate in that I found a VERY good farm vet who is also quite good with equines (and dogs and cats!!) He can address goat & horse issues during his visits. (and stick the cat with whatever he needs).
So... if your horse can come and go into a barn with electricity - you might consider a radio. : )
Posted 2008-09-14 2:08 PM (#91477 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 58 Location: Foley, MO
First and foremost, OWN feeding time. For the first several days, run her off her feed bucket for the first 20 minutes, then "allow" her in to eat. This is lead mare behavior and will secure your leadership position in her horse-etiquitte mind.
Secondly, we kept our paint mare by herself for many months...she adjusted quite well to the idea, but was very, VERY happy to see us. We did spend a lot of time with her, either in the barn or out in the pasture or riding.
We have 6 dogs, and they tended to be good company for her. An added bonus is that she was not spooky in the least when coming upon loose dogs out on road rides.
Posted 2008-09-14 7:55 PM (#91484 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 522 Location: Tucumcari NM
Miniatures are very cute and loveable, but my big Boer goat is a HOOT! He has such a great personality, and is not above putting the horse in his place when the horse gets a little bossy. He is smart as heck, and doesn't go under the fences as my neighbor's milk goats do. He is one of my favorite animals, and I 've had quite a few different critters.
Posted 2008-09-16 10:35 AM (#91572 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 1205 Location: Danielsville Georgia
Well keeping one alone is fine and in some ways better then having another horse be it mini or full size to hook on to.If YOU handle the situation correctly she will be your bud and work great for you .If you handle it wrong she will still be your bud but she'll handle you as she desires.I tried goats.Depends on the horse. The problem is if it dosen't work you have at worst a dead goat and at the least a broken goat.Lots of horses treat goats like other horses. I've had one grab the goat,throw the goat and then stomp the goat.All in maybe 5 seconds or less from start to finish with me 10 feet away when it started.Horse was a super gentle gelding that anyone could handle or ride.Seen what can happen to minis also.
Posted 2008-09-16 1:28 PM (#91586 - in reply to #91305) Subject: RE: Horses alone
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Posts: 1989 Location: South Central OK
My youth show gelding liked being alone. He could have cared less if other horses even existed. I think he liked being the "one" that got to live in the show barn and get pampered...I readily admit he was a total priss. I did have a barn cat he liked, she would go and sleep under his hay manger and they both loved the radio I played 24/7.
I would be very careful about your horse becoming overly attached to another horse. I've seen this turn out to be the worst solution as they become inseparable.
You can quickly cure the feeding time problems with a little adjustment. I used to make adjustments with the graphite shaft of a golf club, it offered good grip and length yet was very light and easy to carry.