Posted 2008-03-04 7:38 PM (#78650) Subject: Where to place generators
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I'm going to run two Honda eu2000 portable generators (hooked together) for a three horse slant load with a 10 ft. short wall LQ. Since the generator documentation says they can't be run out in the rain, where is a safe place for them to be running if needed in inclement weather?
Posted 2008-03-04 11:38 PM (#78669 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Originally written by TPompei on 2008-03-04 8:38 PM
I'm going to run two Honda eu2000 portable generators (hooked together) for a three horse slant load with a 10 ft. short wall LQ. Since the generator documentation says they can't be run out in the rain, where is a safe place for them to be running if needed in inclement weather?
Two like EU series generators can be linked in parallel to increase available wattage through the generator outlets.
Posted 2008-03-05 7:11 AM (#78681 - in reply to #78678) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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I rarely run the A/C. ( When camping at 8000 foot it's rarely hot enough to need A/C)
So my use of the generator is usually to charge the batteries, run the microwave or grill to cook with. Both of these are fairly short term run times. So I might run my generator for 1 hour per day. ( 15-20 minutes for breakfast and 40 minutes or so for dinner) I just shut the trailer windows closet to the truck during that period and no I have not had any problem or smelled the generator fumes.
Posted 2008-03-05 8:37 AM (#78690 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Have two of the Honda EU 2000i gens these hooked together with the Parallel Cable Kit. find that if we use the microwave and the AC kicks on the gens will shut down. Not a big deal to turn off the AC for the short time the microwave is running. Not sure how long the gens will run till they run out of gas but you might look at an extended run fuel tank. Check out www.wisesales.com
Have not run these during bad weather but don't see any problem putting them under the gooseneck
Posted 2008-03-05 9:22 AM (#78695 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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I might suggest that the Gennys be run from the top hayrack if you have one. You will need to make a cover, but once up there you don't have to move them anymore. They are out of the way and don't take up space below. Check out www.hayrak.com and go thru the website for more info and ideas. Click on Select Trailer width then choose a width and then click on picture to enlarge and give you some ideas. You might also want to carry some addtional water on top.
Posted 2008-03-05 9:38 AM (#78697 - in reply to #78695) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Originally written by Dan Mefford on 2008-03-05 9:22 AM
I might suggest that the Gennys be run from the top hayrack if you have one. You might also want to carry some additional water on top.
Before you attempt this combination, a consideration of the total weights should be contemplated. Not only are the weights of the generators a major concern, but the fact that water weighs 8.34 pounds per gallon is a determining factor. A thirty or forty gallon tank, which is not a static loading, added to the generators is a significant amount of loading.
The placement of the rack, its construction and the construction of the trailer structure at the attach points, should all be carefully determined.
Posted 2008-03-05 10:00 AM (#78702 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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My EF3000iseB Yamaha is in the bed of the truck, got it covered with a big blue, (color matches gen set!) plastic, rectangular, upside down, tub/bin, that I bought from Walmart. If we are at a show and it begins to rain, I just back the truck back under the trailer and roll the generator to the tailgate and use the gooseneck as a shed. I just point the exhaust toward the outside and down wind. It's handy to have the generator with me, in the truck rather than on the trailer. Where ever I go, I got 3500 watts of starting power and 2800 watts running power, at the twist of a key!!
Posted 2008-03-05 10:08 AM (#78705 - in reply to #78697) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Originally written by gard on 2008-03-05 9:38 AM
Before you attempt this combination, a consideration of the total weights should be contemplated. Not only are the weights of the generators a major concern, but the fact that water weighs 8.34 pounds per gallon is a determining factor. A thirty or forty gallon tank, which is not a static loading, added to the generators is a significant amount of loading.
The placement of the rack, its construction and the construction of the trailer structure at the attach points, should all be carefully determined.
Gard
Gard is right these things have to taken into consideration. Generally the rack must transfer the weight to the side walls of the trailer and not place any significant weight on the roof itself. Any trailer that is strong enough to hold a tied horse will be strong enough to carry significant weight if it is distributed across the rack.
My Honda weighs about 125lbs. Water is very heavy at 8lbs + per gallon and a few bales of hay at anywhere from 50 - 75lbs in our neighborhood.
It can add up. Be sure your equipment can handle it.
Posted 2008-03-05 1:41 PM (#78730 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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And that's why they are called hayracks and not waterracks....I've seen several hayracks bent and folks wondering why, and all the while they're looking at a 100 gallon tank up there...!!!
Posted 2008-03-05 2:05 PM (#78732 - in reply to #78730) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Originally written by horsey1 on 2008-03-05 1:41 PM
And that's why they are called hayracks and not waterracks....I've seen several hayracks bent and folks wondering why, and all the while they're looking at a 100 gallon tank up there...!!!
That is right, however if it is engineered to accept more weight, then you can haul some extra water. We recommend checking out manufacturer's load limits. Many racks are built with 1" square tubes - can't haul much but hay with that. We, at http://www.hayrak.com/ have built using 1 1/2" square tubes and large 1 1/2" X 3" Mounting brackets. All are heavy duty built with High Tech Alloys. We have thought of developing a HayRak Lite version, but just as sure as we do it will be abused.
Posted 2008-03-05 7:38 PM (#78750 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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I think it depends on where you are going to carry them. If you are going to carry them in the back of the truck then that may be the best place to run them. Just be aware the 2000 honda is very portable for anyone that may want to borrow one for a few years. Because they are pull start, I think the hay rack would be the wrong place for them. Would be to easy to get hurt falling off trying to start them. I carry my Yamaha 2400 in the tack compartent under the saddles and set it outside when using it. If im in a crowded camp, I have even set it inside the trailer so no one else has to listen to it. Usually set it under the gooseneck and run it there.
Posted 2008-03-05 8:49 PM (#78758 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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I haul my Honda 3000 in the pickup bed also. I have it locked with a cable to one of the rings in the truck bed. I keep a cover on it when I am not camping--- have not had a problem. If I need to use it and it is raining, I have a big piece of rigid plastic that I put on top to keep the rain out.
Posted 2008-03-06 2:04 PM (#78815 - in reply to #78758) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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Originally written by CTR Rider on 2008-03-05 9:49 PM
I haul my Honda 3000 in the pickup bed also. I have it locked with a cable to one of the rings in the truck bed. I keep a cover on it when I am not camping--- have not had a problem. If I need to use it and it is raining, I have a big piece of rigid plastic that I put on top to keep the rain out.
Posted 2008-03-06 2:51 PM (#78820 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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WOW bed of truck.We did that once and where too worried would be too temping for it to walk away.Now ours is locked in back tack compartment(horsetrailer-nothing close by or next to it)and always remove key when not using it.In todays world most places that back truck generators gonna walk away.Or as posted somewhere earlier Stolen from top off trailerlqs.Just open door on tack comp. when running and till cools off and lock it up later.So that that generators always there when you need it.
Posted 2008-03-06 7:11 PM (#78846 - in reply to #78650) Subject: RE: Where to place generators
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I have a Onan 5000 or maybe 5500, can't remember at the moment, LP generator mounted in the back of my truck with two bottles mounted next to it. The exhaust is vented thru the bed of the truck. I have a plug on the side of the bed to hook the trailer up and also have a cord on the trailer to plug into another plug on the bed for the remote start. If someone wants to steal it they will have to have some tools and some time.
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