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lindszo
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-02-23 12:12 PM (#77741)
Subject: Convert Gooseneck to Bumper Pull



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Several months ago I saw a product advertised that you attach to your bumper and then the gooseneck attaches to this.  Can not find the ad and don't remember much more about it.  Has anyone seen it?  Thoughts?  They claimed it made trailering easier.
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retento
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Posted 2008-02-23 1:17 PM (#77746 - in reply to #77741)
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Something like this??  http://www.digisys.net/bics/welcome.html
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lindszo
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-02-23 6:28 PM (#77763 - in reply to #77746)
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That's it. Does anyone have opinions....... Ever used one?
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greyhorse
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-02-23 6:49 PM (#77764 - in reply to #77741)
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Personally, I wouldn't use it. You need the weight on the truck to provide stability/traction when braking, it's going to be hard to back up, it'll really make the gn cut corners when you turn. I just don't think it's a good idea.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-02-23 6:53 PM (#77765 - in reply to #77741)
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It looks like a unique product. My only question would be, how much towing capacity is the bumper hitch to which it is attached? The photo shows a large, probably heavy, trailer that may exceed the category rating of the towing vehicle's hitch.

Gard

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-02-24 7:37 AM (#77791 - in reply to #77741)
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Someone ask for an opinion? 

I always have an opinion.   I think the "Dolly" is a limited solution.  Backing is sure to be a challenge.  I didn't see a dually option so the "Dolly" would be used only for trailers a 3/4 truck would carry.  The max trailer weight besides the hitch weight limit would be the gross combined vehicle weight rating.  This is set by the vehicle manufacturer and can't be legally exceeded.   So... one can't use the "Dolly" to haul a 4 horse LQ trailer with a SUV.  The GCVWR limits that.

A limited solution indeed.

 

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-02-24 1:42 PM (#77810 - in reply to #77741)
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My most favorite cousin that sells me hay, has got a homemade one kinda like that... A cut in half 52 Chevy two ton truck chassis with a Fontain fifth wheel, backed underneath a 45' Great dane flatbed trailer. We use it to haul hay.... Only pull it with the farm tractors and then not much ove 10 mph. 500 bales of hay on that rig is a bit much to try and stop!!
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-02-24 3:40 PM (#77818 - in reply to #77741)
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-02-24 3:41 PM (#77819 - in reply to #77741)
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-02-24 3:41 PM (#77820 - in reply to #77741)
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-02-24 3:42 PM (#77821 - in reply to #77741)
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Yes, this sort of solution is much safer than the dolly and you can backup too...
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N2ridin
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-02-24 3:46 PM (#77822 - in reply to #77741)
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I'm scared !
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-02-24 5:49 PM (#77830 - in reply to #77765)
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Originally written by gard on 2008-02-23 6:53 PM

It looks like a unique product. My only question would be, how much towing capacity is the bumper hitch to which it is attached? The photo shows a large, probably heavy, trailer that may exceed the category rating of the towing vehicle's hitch.

Gard



I'm guessing the tongue weight is mostly handled by the dolly axle. Still, can you imagine trying to back into a tight spot? I'd be afraid of major sway, too. =:-O
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-02-24 9:43 PM (#77855 - in reply to #77830)
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are these picture real?????????? the tail gate came take the weight??????  Nuts 





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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2008-02-25 10:59 AM (#77892 - in reply to #77855)
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Originally written by loveduffy on 2008-02-24 8:43 PM

are these picture real?????????? the tail gate came take the weight?? 

Looks like the hitch weight is mostly supported by the wood block between the frame hitch and the tail gate.  (Last picture) Notice the finely wittled pin to keep the block on the hitch And .... the delicate "s: hook and chain reinforcing the tailgate supports. (Some porch light fixture is laying around missing its chain)

This is truely a fine example of back hill/yard engineering.



Edited by hosspuller 2008-02-25 11:01 AM
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crewdog48
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-02-25 4:43 PM (#77929 - in reply to #77741)
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My Dad used to haul RVs for a major RV manufacturer in Northern Indiana, they used a set up simular to this for 5th wheel RVs. He could pull a 5th wheel with a 1-ton dually on the dolly and haul a truck camper at the same time. Every once in a while he would haul a Class C Motor Home on a Beaver Tail with a 5th Wheel Travel Trailer on the Dolly. Once when he was pulling to some RV shows he got to the Texas Shows with no problem, then as far as the Port of Entry in Arizona where he got stopped. He explained that he had hauled the rig for almost 2000 miles with out any problems, where upon the inspector said he wasn't going to pull it another 15 feet in Arizona. Seems the rig was 76' long hinged in the middle. He had to drop the trailer and a dealer came to pick it up. When he made the return trip he didn't go through Arizona.
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