Posted 2007-05-16 8:42 PM (#60870 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Thats so scary, i hate even thinking about that when I'm off to a event or trail ride.
I hope everyone gets better soon and bravo for the CHP and that city to have come together like that and help ALL the injured; even the 4 legged ones :)
Posted 2007-05-16 11:15 PM (#60883 - in reply to #60880) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2007-05-16 2:47 AM
That shows how good horse trailers are compared to travel trailers.A travel trailer would be all over the highway.In pieces.
Oh yes, I am one to attest to that. Nothing like the camel riders going south for the winter on I-75 and I-95. I have wittnessed a couple of these accidents. Plywood, sidding and junk all over the road with the frame somewhere in the road.
Posted 2007-05-17 12:29 AM (#60886 - in reply to #60883) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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My friend witnessed her father's death in a big RV such as you mention.He pulled out in front of a gravel truck at an overpass,she and her friend were behind them in a truck pulling a LQ horse trailer.
What I remember,and what she said she remembers,is the way it just seemed to explode when the impact happened.
Sad sad story and tragic event.Her mom and dad had not had the RV very long when it happened.It was heartbreaking to hear her relate the story,to say the least.
You would think for the $$ those things cost,they would be better constructed for safety too.
Posted 2007-05-17 8:46 AM (#60901 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Oh My God.
I am amazed they led both of those horses out and they LOADED right up again! How the heck did they get them untangled?
Good thing for a big trailer and not-big horses. Good thing it was a full-frame trailer! At least it held together and didn't crush or the top come off etc...Can anybody here imagine doing this one with a Brenderup!?!
Posted 2007-05-17 10:55 AM (#60910 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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I wonder if they gave the horses any medication to sedate them before they tried to move them from one trailer to the next one. Thankfully everyone seemed to be failrly OK. Hope both of the horses recover without too much medical treatment. Thanks for sharing it.
Posted 2007-05-17 3:54 PM (#60933 - in reply to #60901) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Good thing for a big trailer and not-big horses. Good thing it was a full-frame trailer! At least it held together and didn't crush or the top come off etc...Can anybody here imagine doing this one with a Brenderup!?!
The trailer involved in the accident was a Sundowner. I honestly do can say how a Brenderup would have held up. Any thoughts on this?
Posted 2007-05-17 5:16 PM (#60935 - in reply to #60933) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Originally written by IcePonyGoddess on 2007-05-17 1:54 PM
Good thing for a big trailer and not-big horses. Good thing it was a full-frame trailer! At least it held together and didn't crush or the top come off etc...Can anybody here imagine doing this one with a Brenderup!?!
The trailer involved in the accident was a Sundowner. I honestly do can say how a Brenderup would have held up. Any thoughts on this?
There's a first time horse owner at our boarding stable who hauls with a Brenderup and I took a look at it the other day. It was the first time I had ever seen one up close, the thing that I immediately noticed was the fact that the fiberglass roof wraps around down the sides of the trailer. It looks like it would offer little or no protection for the horses if the trailer was involved in an accident, especially a rollover. The woman who owns the trailer wanted to lease my 20 year old gelding to take on trail rides, as you probably guessed, the answer was "no".
Posted 2007-05-17 6:08 PM (#60938 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Do you really think Horse Trailer World would have given Brenderup such a great review if it was not safe?? Hawk, Trail-et and a lot of other brands have fiberglas tops.
Posted 2007-05-17 6:18 PM (#60939 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Even better...name one FOR REAL, not friend of a friend, my sister's uncle's step-dad heard it incident of a horse being harmed in a Brenderup. One verifiable case. My dear friend uses hers, very sturdy, my horses have been in it and the sides are thicker than my aluminum trailer. 25 years of being in the USA, someone tell me of a real injury in a Brenderup. Any takers?
Posted 2007-05-17 6:44 PM (#60941 - in reply to #60938) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Originally written by halfpass on 2007-05-17 7:08 PM
Do you really think Horse Trailer World would have given Brenderup such a great review if it was not safe?? Hawk, Trail-et and a lot of other brands have fiberglas tops.
it is human nature to fear what we do not understand, and some are also more resistant to change as they age. as for "plastic" not being good enough......all i have to say is, Glock.
Posted 2007-05-17 8:35 PM (#60944 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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I don't know, but I would probably prefer a fiberglass roof in the event of a rollover vs. an aluminum roof. Chances are, the aluminum will TEAR and leave nice jagged edges to cut the heck out of a struggling horse. Fiberglass will just break away. Contrary to some people's opinion, FIBERGLASS is a very strong structural material. Heck, most boats are made out of the stuff and a lot of those boats take a pounding offshore.
Posted 2007-05-17 8:41 PM (#60945 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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That's what's funny...the "change" part. Their have been Brenderup, Rice (also have a friend who has crammed her big TB in a 20+ year old Rice trailer years) and Richardson trailers are not new. They've been building them for 40 years or so? I guess I don't see any of this as new and they are the number 1 selling trailer in Europe. Not new and not different if anyone ever ventures out of the US. I guess not new here. I remember seeing the Brenderup ads since I was a kid in my horse mags.I know the B'up topic gets beaten to death and I've quit reading any posts that pertain to them, but I oopsed on this one as I just saw it was an accident from the heading. I'll crawl back under my rock and lurk : )Glocks rule...
Posted 2007-05-17 9:30 PM (#60947 - in reply to #60944) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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I'm not saying that Brenderups are bad trailers, but personally I would have some big concerns about putting my horses in one (especially with an inexperienced hauler). My big concern is the fiberglass they use for part of the side wall of the trailer (The roof wraps around and partway down the side). The side walls go about 4/5 up the side of the trailer, the rest of the way up it is fiberglass. I'm not saying fiberglass isn't strong, but I doubt it would support the weight of the trailer if it rolled onto it's top as the Sundowner did. This is just my guess, but the fiberglass would probably collapse to the level of the side walls, and since the horse's head is above that level, the outcome might not be so good.
Posted 2007-05-17 10:21 PM (#60949 - in reply to #60945) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Lets not start that again, but did anybody notice that the fire team said that they were ready to work with the horse because they have work with local club to train they people to Handel horse in such a case we should all work with are local fire and rescue team so if and( God know I hope it never happens) we need them they know what to do
Posted 2007-05-18 5:28 AM (#60951 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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Good point on the local Emergency responders having received prior training. I wonder if my local Sheriff's Department would be interested in something like that.
I've read of at least two botched horse rescues because the crews had no previous experience with handling horses.
Posted 2007-05-20 11:22 PM (#61052 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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If you ever get the chance to participate in such a program it is well worth it. Years ago when I had more time than money, my horse Flynn and I participated in many such training seminars for local police and firemen. The course was started after an incident where a horse trailer had been flipped on it's side. The rescue crews first thought was to right the trailer then remove the horse. Thankfully the owner of the horse and trailer was not seriously hurt and convinced them to cut the trailer to pieces and remove the horse first. If they had righted the trailer first they would have broken all the horses legs as they were on the ground through the side window at the time. Thus birthed the many recue seminars our saddle club, TROD, held for police and firemen at no charge. They don't do as many anymore, but still have a couple a year. Sadly, my current work schedule doesn't let me participate anymore, but there are others that have stepped up to the plate. Here's a picture of Flynn and me from probably about 12 or so years ago.
Posted 2007-05-21 7:59 PM (#61109 - in reply to #60857) Subject: RE: Trailer Accident, CA
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I am a rescue worker AND a horse person who just so happened to have been to a LAR (Large Animal Rescue) class a year ago. Remember most rescuers don't have much "hands on" experience with large animals until a bad situation happens, so classes that UsRider is helping sponsor (as long as you can get people to it) are GREAT! If you are concerned about what your department knows (or doesn't know) about animal rescue, check with their training department and volunteer your time to share your experiences and knowledge with them, or sponsor someone to attend a class! Also, Check out www.tlaer.org for further info from the main instructors in this discipline: Tomas & Rebecca Gimenez, they hold several of these classes for fire depts a year and even have their own animals trained for hands on. Good Luck and Drive Safe!
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