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Sheryl63
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-03-29 1:54 PM (#57998)
Subject: Camper and trailer combo


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I am venturing into doing some competitions for the first time this year.  I have a mini horse that pulls a cart, so the horse itself is not the major weight/concern.   The driving competitions around here are 2  hours+ away from home and multiday (combined driving events) so often 2 overnights is required. 

I am considering buying an inexpensive, older camper so that I can stay over long weekend shows in the camper. (We would also use it for a family camping trip this summer).  I have not yet bought a trailer, but a friend is loaning me a heavy, older steel 3 horse (it is weird, more like a 21/2 horse size plus tack room) with tons of room for the horse and cart and will also be big enough to stall the  mini in.  It is a heavy trailer, but the horse only weighs about 250# and the cart another 100# so I figure that the whole works will be under 4,500#.

My truck is a 1992 diesel F250 longbed so I THINK I am fine with staying under the capacity for the truck.  The older campers are closer to 2,000#.  I have pulled horse trailers before (I used to own one) but a camper is an added degree of difficulty and weight load I have never dealt with.  What should I be concerned about?  How has this sort of rig worked out for people.  I am guessing gas mileage gets really bad, how much worse then the horse trailer alone?

If I decide I want to continue with competitions I will look at upgrading my whole rig situation and buying my own trailer, but I am looking for something to get me through half a dozen clinics, schooling shows etc this year.... safely.

Thanks in advance!

 

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jdzaharia
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2007-03-29 3:06 PM (#58001 - in reply to #57998)
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My first reaction is that you have nothing to worry about. Your pickup should be able to handle a camper and that trailer. (I am assuming you are talking about a slide-in pickup camper.)

I think 2000 lbs is a good estimate on the camper. I have a 1976 hard-side 8.5 foot camper that weighs 1300 lbs on the local scrapyard's scale. Some may be built slightly heavier, and you will have a few hundred pounds of gear in there.

4500 lbs of trailer should be no problem. Really, you will be loaded approximately the same as somebody pulling a 8000 lb gooseneck trailer, which I would say is within the boundaries of your pickup.
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IcePonyGoddess
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-03-29 3:48 PM (#58005 - in reply to #57998)
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For many years...my rig was a 1989 Ford F350 4x4 pickup, and older slide-in camper and a Sundowner BP trailer. I love my home-away-from-home! I used to haul 2..sometimes 3 full size horses (15 hands - 16 hands).

I think you will be fine with your set up. Lookinig forward to seeing what others think.

I just upgraded my rig to a 1993 Class A RV and a Sundowner 2 horse BP. I now haul a 13 hand IcePony and a 29.5" mini mare. I wanted a bit more room, a real toilet and a shower!! 12

I also got tired of climbing in & out of the camper, it was a big step for me.

I think I will love camping in the RV...and hope I enjoying driving it. I do have my CDL...so driving it will be no problem, but....it's like driving
a boat down the road. HAHA! 13

Anywho..have fun in your new set -up.
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equiteacher
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-03-29 3:54 PM (#58006 - in reply to #57998)
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Really wondering what kind of cart you are planning on using for Combined Driving Event that only weighs 100#?
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Sheryl63
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-03-29 4:20 PM (#58008 - in reply to #58006)
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A mini cart of course!  Mine actually weighs less then 100#.  My friend does the marathon section in a "bike" that weighs less then 30 pounds, although she does dressage and cones in a cart that is more like about 120#.

These are schooling events so easy entry carts are permitted, even the with just the wire wheels.   Actually, that is permitted for sanctioned events for training level.   For single minis, they don't get much heavier anyway as they do not require a navigator until you have 2 in hand or more.  I am not going to upgrade to the wooden wheels and all that until I do at least one season of the schooling/training events to see if I want to do it. 

I appreciate the replies - I really do think I am okay as far as weight goes, but it is good to hear practical experience from others.  Is it hard to drive a truck with a camper on it?   I am very ignorant about campers,  I thought they were all "slide ins" and you somehow tie them down.  I've got the big extended mirrors already... not sure what else needs to be considered.  I just like the idea of having a place to hang out on the grounds rather then driving off to a motel.

 

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IcePonyGoddess
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-03-29 4:24 PM (#58010 - in reply to #58008)
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My friend does the marathon section in a "bike" that weighs less then 30 pounds.

It that a HyperBike? I want one for my mini!!
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bechack
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2007-03-31 3:33 PM (#58160 - in reply to #58010)
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I have had Camper trailer combo for years. When buying older campers BEWARE OF THE CORNER JACKS AND DRY ROT! That is the weakest link in a camper.

Campers with shower an toilet can easily run 3500# (and I am talking 8-9' range)

But it seems like your rig will be able to handle just fine.

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horseartist
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-03-31 8:57 PM (#58179 - in reply to #57998)
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I am interested in replies to this thread as well. I have a '92 Dodge D250 deisel long bed that I bought last year. I just got a Trails West 2 horse stell slant that I'm guessing weighs about 2500-2800 lbs. I'm going to call Trails West with the serial number Monday.

I will add a slide in camper later this year, hopefully. It will be used as well to fit my budget. :) I would be looking for an 8' with no shower and maybe a camper toilet. My horses aren't minis, but are about 800 lbs or less each.
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coltaffyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2007-04-01 4:25 PM (#58241 - in reply to #57998)
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I am very interested in reading all the replies on this one!!! I am wanting to do the same thing!!! But how does the truck camper pull?? Are they as safe as a goose neck..?? What is the best way to attach the camper while using a 3 horse bumper pull trailer.....? I have an 05 Ford 350 dually with a 15000 pound hitch, 6.0 diesel engine....... I have researched just enough to learn that you get extended camper lifts to not damage the dually fenders. Any information would be great------ Just wondering if this is a cheaper way to go since I already have a horse trailer and need a living quarters at the shows....
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sskinner
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-04-02 8:46 AM (#58276 - in reply to #57998)
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Also when shopping for older campers inspect very carefully for leaks in the roof.  Models with front windows in the bunk area were notorious for leaking as well. 

Yes, you will need to tie your camper down.  Belly bars are the less expensive way to go and very traditional.  There is a HappiJak system that is supposed to be easy but involves attatching some hardware in the truck box & also there is some cost involved.

We don't have any problems when pulling with our camper on.  It will feel top heavy and you will notice cross/head winds.  Anything you can do to beef up the truck suspension will improve handling of course. 

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Sheryl63
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-04-02 10:31 AM (#58282 - in reply to #57998)
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Thanks everyone - very informative!

I did a little research this weekend and was kind of scared off by the potential costs of preparing the truck (which I haven't decided how long I will keep).  Will need tie downs - was quoted $500-1,000 installed, depending on type.  If the camper is longer then 8 1/2 feet may need a different truck hitch then I currently have.  If the camper is heavy, may need those suspension bag/cushions.  Now all of this was said without the guy even seeing my truck.... so it is very general information.   I also looked at some used campers and learned that many of the older ones don't fit well over the bumper so measuring seems pretty important.  I am a little worried about dry rot or water damage too with some of the older ones.  This is not as simple as I originally imagined!

I am going ot a "clinic" in early may and will just kinda muddle through with a tent and then determine what makes sense.  It will give me a chance to look at other rigs too.

thanks!

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Dobby
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2007-04-02 11:58 AM (#58293 - in reply to #57998)
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Hello - Just purchased a 2006 Starcraft 800 truck camper new - popup. Only weighs about 1500 pounds and has a toilet and shower. Shower combo small, but can use in a pinch. I have a 2500 Dodge diesel and am pulling a 3 horse aluminum bumper pull. Trailer weighs about 3000 pounds. The pop up is lighter than the traditional camper. Clamps are used to hold camper on and relatively inexpensive to install. Just another option. Thanks!
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coltaffyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2007-04-02 7:54 PM (#58333 - in reply to #57998)
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Thanks for the info Dobby...........Got a number for your dealer?? I talked with Tom Raper Rv in Cincinnatti Ohio today,,,,The truck campers start at mid 30's to upper 40's........ I am thinking a LQ horse trailer would be cheaper!!!
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sskinner
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-04-03 7:32 AM (#58370 - in reply to #57998)
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Wow - you must be looking at some pretty nice ones!  Decent used units around here can be found for $4-10k, with some of the newer used Lances going for $15-25k.

 

 

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coltaffyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2007-04-03 9:17 PM (#58426 - in reply to #57998)
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The truck campers are manufactured by Host......???? any opinions?? Looked at Lance campers at the Congress--- they were very nice!!
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Dobby
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2007-04-04 6:26 AM (#58444 - in reply to #57998)
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Here is the link for the camper I just purchased. Paid less than $9000 new. Not sure what you are looking at. Hope this helps. Thanks!http://www.starcraftrv.com/2006_pine_mountain/pinemountain_800.html
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jdzaharia
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2007-04-04 8:34 AM (#58450 - in reply to #58426)
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Originally written by coltaffyjo on 2007-04-03 9:17 PM

The truck campers are manufactured by Host......???? any opinions?? Looked at Lance campers at the Congress--- they were very nice!!


No wonder they are $40,000. They have slideouts and every other thing a regular motorhome has. www.hostcampers.com I cannot find it on their website, but I bet one of those campers weighs around 4000 lbs. Personally, I would not put one on a 3/4 ton pickup, let alone pull a trailer, also.

I don't know what you need/want for amenities, but if I ever buy another pickup camper, I will look really hard at a Capri Camper. www.capricamper.com A decent sized one with a few options is still under $8000 and 1500 lbs. Personally, I do not need a stove or sink, so I would be looking at $2500-4000 and under 1000 lbs.
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coltaffyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2007-04-04 9:22 PM (#58537 - in reply to #57998)
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Starcraft pop up looks good to me for the price.....Can you have air conditioning and heat???? Thanks for the site on the capricamper.com I would need more windows in one of those!!!!! and yes , the host campers have slide outs, but gosh, for the money, they should have more than that!!! and correct, 4000 pounds on the weight. but I have a f 350 one ton dually......with a 3 horse bumper pull.......
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Dobby
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2007-04-05 7:14 AM (#58552 - in reply to #57998)
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Air and heat come included in the price I quoted you. They are a simple unit but get the job done. They are an excellent alternative for someone who hauls a bumper pull and needs a place to sleep. Had a sleeping quarter trailer once but need to haul more than just horses sometimes. Husband has a canoe trailer and we go camping with that also. Thanks!
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jdzaharia
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2007-04-05 8:03 AM (#58556 - in reply to #58537)
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Originally written by coltaffyjo on 2007-04-04 9:22 PM

and correct, 4000 pounds on the weight. but I have a f 350 one ton dually......with a 3 horse bumper pull.......


Sorry, I had you confused with the original poster.

I would think you could order a Capri with as many windows as you want. But that Starcraft looks pretty nice and with comparable/better options is a comparable price. Capri caters really well to someone looking for a bare bones, light, and inexpensive camper. Start adding creature comforts and other brands start to take over.

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sskinner
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-04-05 9:54 AM (#58560 - in reply to #57998)
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Just putting this out there are general information for anyone with truck campers/horse trailers:  trot over to www.rv.net  They have a very informative forum section just for TCs and the different issues we with deal with.  Hitch extenders, jack systems, truck suspension stuff...

 

Sarah

 

 

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