Posted 2006-03-22 8:20 AM (#39287) Subject: I could use some wize advice.
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I found a great horse for my wife....but he picks on my horse and bites him all the time. He goes in spurts. My horse was all most all the way healed up till yesterday when her horse took another nip out of him. I don't want to get rid of her horse because he is very sound in every other aspect. We can't keep them apart due to the lack of area, pens, ect. Is there anything I can do to stop this unwanted behavior? I have herd that a shock coller works but you have to ketch him in the act. We have had this horse since september. Any suggestions are welcome! Thank you.
Posted 2006-03-22 8:39 AM (#39289 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 2828 Location: Southern New Mexico
Is your wifes horse playing with your horse, or showing domiance? Either way the only way it will stop is to seperate them, especially at feeding time, or for your horse to start standing up for himself.
Posted 2006-03-22 8:05 PM (#39335 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 322 Location: Fort Madison, Iowa
I have one horse that use to be real bad to my youngest horse where she'd have big chucks of hair gone.
I had the younger horse at a trainer and she noticed the marks and I told her Sonny had done it which is another horse she's worked with. She told me I didn't have to put up with that and to really give him heck when I'd catch him doing it and to drive him off.
It's not perfect but it's gotten a lot better and you don't see the bad bite marks as much. Good Luck.
Posted 2006-03-23 8:14 AM (#39375 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 1719 Location: PA
It is a dominance thing. One way to fix it, but many people think it is cruel but it's not, is to throw down her gelding in the pasture with your's. Then put a tarp on her gelding and trhow a bit of grain on the tarp where your gelding can gently pick it off. Let her gelding on the ground until he is submissive. Doing this will knock her gelding's dominance attitude down a notch.
Posted 2006-03-23 11:09 AM (#39386 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 1283 Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey
Pick up(tie it up) the front foot, turn the horses head into the same side that the foot is off the ground, keep pressure on the horse until they slowly back up and then down. Works everytime.
Posted 2006-03-23 11:56 AM (#39391 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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When a horse is laying down all you need is one hand on the side of his neck and he can't get back up. As long as you are holding his head down he won't even try to get up.
Posted 2006-03-24 8:19 AM (#39435 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Ok, so I did some looking into and it seems like the Best Friend Grazing Muzzle is the best there is. Our horses eat off of round bales mostly and will the horse wearing it still be able to consume a average amount with the muzzle on? He does not need to loose any weight. So far this seems like the best solution I have. Any thoughts about this?
Posted 2006-03-25 4:16 AM (#39486 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 189 Location: nashville, In.
I don't know what brands I've seen, but I was looking in catalogs like Jeffers, Valley Vet American Livestock and vaccine, etc.....
I know some of them are for keeping a horse from chewing blankets or bandages and not to keep them from eating less. So I think they would still be able to get enough hay off a round bale to do O.K. I have seen one that you could take some of the webbing out of to vary to degree of intake. I will try to see if I can find it in my books.
Posted 2006-03-26 7:47 PM (#39562 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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I had a Haflinger gelding like that too, he picked on my mare for dominance and for fun I think. He would "herd" her around also and make her stand in a particular spot. They were both 10 yrs old so it wasn't about the age. She always had bite marks and missing hair and she was miserable. You have several choices:
Sell the horse that bites. Put a grazing muzzle on the biter whenever they are together. Find some way to separate them. Or use a shock device and catch him in the act. You can make it easier on yourself if you can separate them for awhile, put the shock device on when you can watch them together and catch him in the act. If you can separate them somehow, anyway you can, and let them be together at your convenience so you can watch them with the shock device you will get good results. That way every time he tries to bite the other horse you will be there to give him a zap. You have to be very consistant with this........but if you are it won't take long. I would be willing to bet that your other horse is very unhappy and would be grateful. Good Luck !
Posted 2006-04-06 3:41 PM (#40034 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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You may even want to try a cribbing muzzle. With this the horse could probably eat from the round bale easier than with a grazing muzzle. This cribbing muzzle looks more like a cage you can hook to the halter.
Posted 2006-04-07 3:49 PM (#40084 - in reply to #39287) Subject: RE: I could use some wize advice.
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Posts: 362 Location: Allegan, Michigan
I use a grazing/cribbing muzzle on one of my TB mares. They are one and the same, there is no difference between a grazing and a cribbing muzzle. Just differenct names. I got mine off of ebay for ten dollars plus shipping. They are very handy and allow the horse to eat/drink normally without allowing them to bite or crib. You have to watch to make sure like a halter, they do not get hung up on anything. It is normal for horses to chew on eachother, as someone stated it is a dominance issue, and it is natural, something you can't train out of them. The person who said to tie the horse down, needs to have that done to them! That is inhumane treatment and doesn't gain you anything but possible injury! I can not believe that was suggested.
Take the advice on the muzzle, it is the most humane option you have without sepearating them. Good luck!
I could use some wize advice.
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