Posted 2005-09-08 8:57 PM (#30108) Subject: Towing gn with long bed
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I have a 2005 F250 crew cab, rated to pull 7500lbs. I just sold my 2 horse and am in the market for a 3 horse. My truck has a long bed (8'). Is it better to stick with a bp or go to a gn? I will need a trailer under 4000lbs.
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Lori
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Posted 2005-09-08 9:40 PM (#30112 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Originally written by Lori T on 2005-09-08 8:57 PM
I have a 2005 F250 crew cab, rated to pull 7500lbs. I just sold my 2 horse and am in the market for a 3 horse. My truck has a long bed (8'). Is it better to stick with a bp or go to a gn? I will need a trailer under 4000lbs.
Thanks
Lori
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Yes and no.
It depends.
Your priorities may be different to mine.
etc.
A gooseneck trailer is DEFINITELY more stable, but REQUIRES a truck to pull it, takes up the truck bed, offers storage/sleeping space in the nose, clips when cornering, is easier to back - well not really, just easier to recover from jack-knifing. There are LOTS of points in favor and against, you should probably read everything you can and then prioritize against YOUR needs, wants, wishes, preferences.
Posted 2005-09-09 7:32 AM (#30115 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Goosenecks pull soooo much better.
You will be plenty legal with any reasonable 3 horse g.n. loaded down. If I can legally pull a 32' cattle trailer with 30-500# calves in it, then you can surely pull a measely 3 horse aluminum trailer with a couple horses and gear.
Those numbers are very confusing.
Here is a pic of my new trailer on our f-250 (short bed). Thats my wife posing.
Posted 2005-09-09 8:21 AM (#30119 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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You should be ok as long as you don't buy a really heavy trailer. DIfferent trailer brands can really vary in weight. Since you already have the long bed, go with the GN. They pull MUCH better, they only cip corners if you let them (same as with a BP!), and they do back easier than a BP.
Posted 2005-09-09 11:15 AM (#30127 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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I vote for the GN too... and as for a long bed - they are excellent with a GN - that's what I have and I love it - you don't have to worry about clearance in a turn like you do in a short box and you can fit 10 bales a hay in there with the trailer on . I wasn't looking for a long box when I was searching for the truck - but the perfect truck happened to have one and I'm so glad I have it now.
My truck is a 2500 Chevy long box... here's a pic of my rig (the day I got it)
Posted 2005-09-09 9:40 PM (#30148 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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well now that does bring up an interesting point, perhaps those of you overtrucked could help me understand. how could a f150 have the virtually the same GCWR as the mighty f250/350 when equiped with the 5.4l??? and of course if you do the math the 1/2 ton can actually tow more. shouldnt the extra vehicle weight and heavy supension along with the bigger brakes allow you to tow more weight safely?? this is, of course, a rhetorical question.
how about slapping a v10 in the 1/2 ton, lets think about that one for a while. damn epa.
Posted 2005-09-10 5:37 PM (#30161 - in reply to #30139) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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I think you could be looking in the wrong column of your manual. There are some things you didn't tell us about your truck. Is it a 4x4, what motor the 5.4, 6.8 or the diesel. Also what gears, 3.73's or 4.30's these will all make a big difference. I have an 2001 F-250 crewcab longbed 4x4 with the V-10 and 3.73's in the rear end. I can tow at 10,300 lbs, if I have the 4.30's it would be at 12,500.
Posted 2005-09-10 10:37 PM (#30167 - in reply to #30148) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Originally written by chadsalt on 2005-09-09 9:40 PM
well now that does bring up an interesting point, perhaps those of you overtrucked could help me understand. how could a f150 have the virtually the same GCWR as the mighty f250/350 when equiped with the 5.4l??? and of course if you do the math the 1/2 ton can actually tow more. shouldnt the extra vehicle weight and heavy supension along with the bigger brakes allow you to tow more weight safely?? this is, of course, a rhetorical question.
how about slapping a v10 in the 1/2 ton, lets think about that one for a while. damn epa.
Maybe its that extra air in the tires that some people get these "absloutes" from?
Posted 2005-09-11 12:03 PM (#30176 - in reply to #30167) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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I wish I was looking in the wrong column. I donot have a V10, nor is it a 4x4. My husband is an engineer, and very meticulous in these things. I keep making him show me the manual, in case he made a mistake..unfortuantely, he is right!
Lori
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Posted 2005-09-11 9:56 PM (#30196 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Lori T,
Engineer or not your husband has mis-read something. The LEAST amount of weight any F250 Crew Cab 2 wheel drive, year model 2005, is capable of towing for gooseneck is 8500 pounds. And that is an F250 with a 3.73 rearend and a manual transmission. Have your husband find out your rearend gears, either 3.73 or 4.10 and go to this FORD website and get your actual towing capacity. https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2005/2005_F250...
Posted 2005-09-12 8:56 PM (#30251 - in reply to #30247) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Lori T,
Sorry I missed that post. What engine do you have in the truck? It's easy to tell, just open the hood and the engine will be marked. If you only have a 5.4L V8, your towing capacity is only 7200 pounds max with 3.73 rearend and 8700 with the 4.10 rearend. Here is the 2004 guide. https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2004/2004RVTra...
Posted 2005-09-14 5:58 PM (#30390 - in reply to #30108) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Love my gooseneck and would never go back to a bumper pull. They pull so much nicer and I feel safter pulling. It's also much easier when hitchin to the truck.
Posted 2005-09-14 8:39 PM (#30392 - in reply to #30253) Subject: RE: Towing gn with long bed
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Originally written by Lori T on 2005-09-12 10:11 PM
Yes, that is what I have. Lori
Your
gonna be pretty limited. My 3h with 8ft LQ, aluminum over steel frame Bison weighs 6895 with no water in the tank, and the waste tanks empty. And it is only 7'6" wide and 22ft on the floor. Even if you went with an all aluminum trailer you would only knock off about another 700 pounds, around 6200 then. One horse and you'd be over you max weight limit before you ever loaded any tack, clothes, food, water, hay, etcetra and so on.
Towing gn with long bed
. I wasn't looking for a long box when I was searching for the truck - but the perfect truck happened to have one and I'm so glad I have it now.
