I have a 2004 Sundowner that has the spray on bedliner type stuff on the floor, then rubber mats on top of that. But the spray on has long splits down almost the length of the floor that run along one of the upper bumps/ rises. (the floor has channels and rises) I lifted and looked under it and some urine has gotten under it. Has anyone seen the Sundowner floor coating do this? I see a couple options. Remove it all, and just use mats, and keep cleaning on regular basis. Pull it out in one piece, clean the floor, and drop it back down on top of floor again, and then seal the split. Don't have the $$ to do another type of spray coating
Posted 2014-03-26 11:05 PM (#158284 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
I would try to remove the existing liner, treat the bare floor and install a single part roll on bed liner. The cost is a fraction that of a hot, two part spray application.
Posted 2014-03-27 8:24 AM (#158286 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 798 Location: Tenn/Ala.
What you are describing is very common, and can cause problems if not addressed. The typical action we do at our dealership is to remove the entire layer (it will usually lift up in one sheet after cutting down the sides) and reinstall the mats directly over the cleaned aluminum floor. The floor can then be easily cleaned as needed.
The potential problems come in if urine is allowed to sit under the liner on the aluminum floor. Removing the liner lets you clean it like ant other floor. Recoating as Gard suggests is strictly up to you, not necessary, but you may appreciate the potential benefits.
One caveat- we have seen cases where the liner did not look torn, but had lifted and small unseen holes allowed uring to seep down to the floor. It had caused great issues by the time it was detected. So if you have this flooring, check it regularly for proper adhesion to the actual aluminum.
Posted 2014-03-27 11:47 AM (#158290 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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I agree with what has been said on here. My Sundowner (now sold) had a small 6 inch tear towards the back of the trailer. When I removed the liner, there were 1/4" holes up towards the front of the trailer.At the least, remove what you have. That will allow full inspection and cleaning by removing the mats.Doing the roll on liner that Gard suggests is an added benefit. Make sure the floor is clean and follow instructions otherwise this new liner might not stick, then tear and you are in the same boat. Also, you can check on warranty. I can't remember if it is an 8 year or a 10 year on the floor. I was "just" out of warranty on mine.
Posted 2014-04-01 9:52 PM (#158392 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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UPDATE: I also sent a pic to Sundowner. They replied in a few min. Suggested also to take it all off the floor. So, it took about 15 min to pull it all out. It had a lot of stained areas where it had urine seep in, but no holes. I did notice the pop rivet heads, which seem to be non aluminum, have rust on them. I'm sending a few more pix to Sundowner to address this. Glad I pulled it out. The theory sure sounded good, but it did not work. Now to clean the floor. Thanks everyone for thoughts on this
Posted 2014-04-02 8:18 AM (#158402 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 113 Location: Wi
Trot-On - Glad you didn't find any holes. Looks like you caught it in time. Nothing worse than something happening (under the coating) and you don't even know it.
Posted 2014-07-07 2:39 PM (#159746 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
I am a little late as usual here but here goes..... We unloaded our 2004 Sundowner over the weekend to do our yearly full scrub and found some unwanted floor issues under the factory suncoating or rhino lining stuff. I removed all of the liner mess to check for any other damage.What I found was 1 plank where it is pop riveted to the steel frame on the very rear of the trailer has corroded around the pop rivets leave some unwanted and very much unneeded damage.....Called Sundowner and they only have the new style floor planks that is $7.79 per foot which did not sound too bad. Called a couple of trailer repair places and they suggested going with 1/8" aluminum plate instead of new planks but did not say if that would be installed over the original floor or the bad floor would be removed and the new plate installed.
Posted 2014-07-07 3:07 PM (#159747 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 2953 Location: North Carolina
Hogtown... The planks have corrugations that add mightily to the load bearing capacity compared to 1/8 sheets. You might look at "fender washers" to support the missing area of the pop rivets. ... Instead of replacing planks.
Posted 2014-07-07 3:25 PM (#159748 - in reply to #159747) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Originally written by hosspuller on 2014-07-07 3:07 PM
Hogtown... The planks have corrugations that add mightily to the load bearing capacity compared to 1/8 sheets. You might look at "fender washers" to support the missing area of the pop rivets. ... Instead of replacing planks.
I was thinking 1/8" was pretty thin for this app. that is why I stopped in here to see what some of ya'll had to say. I was trying to post a picture of the damage it would give a better idea of what I have going on.My other thought was to have the welder next door to me add another cross member under that part of the floor to add more support as well as having another place to add more pop rivets, really cleaning the floor good with acid and leaving it as it is or buying some of the new planks from Sundowner, removing the complete section (about 40"wide x 30"long give or take a few inches) from the next to the last cross member to the rear of the trailer then put my mats back in.
Posted 2014-07-11 9:42 AM (#159837 - in reply to #158283) Subject: RE: Sundowner floor coating
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Posts: 1351 Location: Decatur, Texas
Need some thoughts here pleaseSince the damage is being called minimal this is what I have decided to do for now is the following:I acid washed the floor to check for any other damage (non was found) used a drimel tool to trim off the corroded area of the 1 floor plank which was about the size of a quarter in 3 spots right on the end edge of that plank. Now we are adding a steel cross member under the rear section just in front of the bad part of the aluminum floor plank just for piece of mind until I get the funds to completely re-do the entire floor with all new planks. Was original thinking of over laying the floor with 1/8" aluminum plate but after hearing this is just a "limited fix" and with the cost involved (was told anywhere from $300. to over $1000. just to over lay the rear half of the trailer) I opted not to do that!
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