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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2013-09-18 8:33 PM (#154830)
Subject: Getting stuck in a trailer with a panicking horse


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Having been stuck in the nose of a three horse angle haul trailer a few months ago with a panicking horse really scared me. I actually sold my trailer and am now looking at straight loads with escape doors on either side at the front so you can't get trapped with a panicking horse with no way out. Just curious on what kinds of advice or feedback others have on this topic. Other stories of similar experiences perhaps?
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2013-09-18 9:41 PM (#154834 - in reply to #154830)
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It's happened to me twice. Broke ribs once and tore a large vein in my foot another time. I still haul in a slant load...it never occurred to me to blame the trailer. I really don't think an escape door would have helped either time.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2013-09-18 9:59 PM (#154835 - in reply to #154830)
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Originally written by Horselovergirl on 2013-09-18 8:33 PM

Having been stuck in the nose of a three horse angle haul trailer a few months ago with a panicking horse really scared me. I actually sold my trailer and am now looking at straight loads with escape doors on either side at the front so you can't get trapped with a panicking horse with no way out. Just curious on what kinds of advice or feedback others have on this topic. Other stories of similar experiences perhaps?
I'm an advocate of straight loads...:)
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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2013-09-18 10:34 PM (#154836 - in reply to #154835)
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Paul: I am now an advocate of straight loads as well! Regardless of how well trained a horse is or how careful a person can be the fact is that going into a steel box with no way out in the front is in my view an accident waiting to happen. Yep, I am never going back to a slant load again!
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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2013-09-18 10:37 PM (#154837 - in reply to #154834)
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I know there are things I could have done differently to be safer but I still keep remembering those ten seconds or so when I was stuck with my back against the trailer and the panicking horse blocking the way out. I am a nurse and I have seen bad trauma accidents and I am hopefully never going to repeat that scar scenario again! It must have been awful to break ribs. Good thing you didn't slice open the artery in your foot!
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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2013-09-19 4:55 AM (#154838 - in reply to #154830)
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I am glade that you both are or OK I will remember this the next time I help some body load in a slant
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joskt0204
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2013-09-19 8:15 AM (#154841 - in reply to #154830)
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Many slant loads have escape doors, and many straight loads do not (or not with each stall), so I don't get how that's the issue.

 

Teaching horses to self load will resolve the problem, regardless of trail style.

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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2013-09-19 10:42 PM (#154859 - in reply to #154830)
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If horses self load does that mean you should not tie them in the trailer though? Then do they self un load ad well?47
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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2013-09-19 10:45 PM (#154860 - in reply to #154838)
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Thanks! I am glad that it turned out to be a learning experience instead of a wreck!
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riddenhardputawaywet
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2013-09-20 12:09 AM (#154862 - in reply to #154859)
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Originally written by Horselovergirl on 2013-09-19 9:42 PM

If horses self load does that mean you should not tie them in the trailer though? Then do they self un load ad well?47
I do not tie, and most I know do not tie. The lead rope is just thrown on their back. Yes they unload themselves. Teaching a horse to load properly takes time and patience. Should not be done the day you are hauling and always best to have a veteran horse on the trailer in the beginning.If you are in a slant, a handy way to teach them to unload is putting the lead on the right side of them so when teaching them to unload, you are pulling them back, partially into the divider so they do not turn to unload head first.Where in Alberta are you?
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-09-20 1:49 AM (#154863 - in reply to #154859)
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Originally written by Horselovergirl on 2013-09-19 10:42 PM

If horses self load does that mean you should not tie them in the trailer though? Then do they self un load ad well?47

 

all of ours self load,and,self unload,and,we tie them in the trailer.But,we don't go inside with them to do it.I tie them from the dropdown window.Does your trailer not have a window at the head of each stall? or is not open to where you can tie them in from the outside?

the problem is when loading one up alone.obviously,you have to shut the butt bar or gate behind them once loaded.well,sometimes,that's when they can panic and,you're right behind them where you might be run over backwards and trampled when the horse is 'unloading' itself like a locomotive.it takes time and patience and practice to teach a horse to go in a trailer and stand there while you secure the gate or bar behind them.if you have mangers,a couple of treats has helped me out really well in training one.I was  told long ago by the man who sold me my first horse at age 12,not to go in a trailer with a horse.THey may come out,but,you might not.

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joskt0204
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2013-09-20 8:02 AM (#154867 - in reply to #154830)
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My horses self load, and the ones we tie, we do it through the window.  I will go on the trailer with any of mine as needed, and I do not worry at all about their behavior, but if a horse is reactive, then I think self loading is the best solution.  When I open the rear door, I tap her butt, say wait, take the butt bar down, then say okay.  She backs off.  I didn't really train that - it has just happened that way.  For the next horse, I open the divider and stand behind it to send her off.  That horse has pulled back twice, although she has been perfect another thousand times, I am still more cautious with her.  Horse three, in the front of the slant, gets that same treatment.  If it's our 3rd horse, I can send her off from outside, but it's often an extra or friend's horse, and if so, I again stand behind the divider, which is a relatively safe position.

 

I was at Biltmore when a woman was killed in the trailer with her horses, so I've gotten a bit more careful.

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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2013-09-20 8:35 AM (#154870 - in reply to #154830)
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My horses self load, it's the unloading that did me in both times.
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-09-20 4:25 PM (#154879 - in reply to #154870)
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For some reason,if one is going to jump goofy,it seems to be when they are on their way back out of the trailer.All at once something comes over them,and,they have to put it in warp speed sometimes to get out.When that has happened with ours,they get about a 30 minute session of going in the trailer,and coming out,going in,coming out,etc.I think you get the picture,because they seem to.

I agree,unloading is the most dangerous time,it seems.57 we are both always well out of the way of the back door during that time.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2013-09-21 1:23 PM (#154887 - in reply to #154830)
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I like straight loads because I'm not necessarily loading my own horses...:)
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