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ellisor
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-11-12 9:00 PM (#138901)
Subject: Hydraulic jack


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I'm too old to keep cranking on my trailer jack; Too cheap to buy a hydraulic, so I'm gonna build one. However I need a little information to get started. Can anyone tell me the stroke length and diameter of the cylinder on a factory unit?
How about pump GPM and pressure?
Thanks,
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2011-11-12 10:41 PM (#138902 - in reply to #138901)
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2011-11-12 10:47 PM (#138903 - in reply to #138901)
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Here's some manuf specs. 12V pump means a low pressure sysytem

Have you considered a heavy duty electric drill?



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ellisor
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-11-13 7:53 AM (#138905 - in reply to #138903)
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Originally written by gard on 2011-11-12 10:47 PM

Here's some manuf specs. 12V pump means a low pressure sysytem

Have you considered a heavy duty electric drill?



No.
Anything electric would have to incorporate a gear motor to produce the torque required to operate the jack under load. For the cost of a DC or AC gear motor I can buy a DC hydraulic pump, valve and cylinder.
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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2011-11-13 5:00 PM (#138911 - in reply to #138901)
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I don't have any specs to help you but here's a good source for hydraulic parts. I've been thinking of doing the same thing as you, and believe I can buy all the parts from here for half the cost of a factory jack.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/hydraulic.asp?catname=hydraulic
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ellisor
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-11-13 7:36 PM (#138913 - in reply to #138911)
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Originally written by hornet on 2011-11-13 5:00 PM

I don't have any specs to help you but here's a good source for hydraulic parts. I've been thinking of doing the same thing as you, and believe I can buy all the parts from here for half the cost of a factory jack.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/hydraulic.asp?catname=hydraulic[/QUOTE...

hornet, My thoughts also. I've got a couple of unused 2' X 8" stroke cylinders left over from a previous project. I'm not sure 8" travel is adequate.
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hornet
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2011-11-14 5:49 AM (#138916 - in reply to #138901)
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I've seen many folks carry 6x6 blocks and lower the jacks onto them. I do that even with manual jacks to keep the foot off the ground. The problem I think you'll run into with only 8 inch travel is if you're using the jack to level your trailer, you could easily run out of lift. Most of the jacks I've seen look to be about 2 foot long.
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RTSmith
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2011-11-14 8:41 AM (#138917 - in reply to #138901)
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Typical travel is 24-30". The 24" often run out of stroke on lifting off of a taller truck, or on a heavy trailer that had the truck squatted low.
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Rockbackon2
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2011-11-14 7:43 PM (#138921 - in reply to #138901)
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Before you go to all that trouble, I have a brand new, still in the crate I-Drive trailer drive system I need to sell. Don't know if you are familiar with these or not but it is the cadillac of hydraulic jacks. 10,000 lb lift capacity and it has the caterpillar drive system so you can move your trailer without hooking it up to your truck. These jacks were selling for around 2800 to 3000 and I'll sell this one for $1000 bucks. This no joke or scam, you can pay for it when you pick it up. It's taking up space in my garage and I need it gone. If you would like to see pictures I can email them to you. My address is jay.sheets@twisted-creek.com or you can call me at 573-631-8970
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ellisor
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-11-14 8:22 PM (#138923 - in reply to #138921)
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email is on the way.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-11-14 9:42 PM (#138925 - in reply to #138905)
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Originally written by ellisor on 2011-11-13 7:53 AM

Originally written by gard on 2011-11-12 10:47 PM

Here's some manuf specs. 12V pump means a low pressure sysytem

Have you considered a heavy duty electric drill?

No. Anything electric would have to incorporate a gear motor to produce the torque required to operate the jack under load. For the cost of a DC or AC gear motor I can buy a DC hydraulic pump, valve and cylinder.
How big must a cylinder be if the available pump produces 2500 psi and a lifting force of at least 17,000 pounds is needed. Force 17,000 Formula: Area = --------- = --------- = 6.8 square inches psi 2500 Area = 3.14 X R X R 6.8 sq.in. R X R = ------------- = 2.17 3.14 R = Square root of 2.17 = 1.47 inch radius cylinder Diameter = 1.47 X 2 Diameter = 2.94 inches A 3-inch diameter cylinder will be sufficient.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-11-14 9:49 PM (#138926 - in reply to #138901)
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Originally written by ellisor on 2011-11-12 9:00 PM

I'm too old to keep cranking on my trailer jack; Too cheap to buy a hydraulic, so I'm gonna build one. However I need a little information to get started. Can anyone tell me the stroke length and diameter of the cylinder on a factory unit? How about pump GPM and pressure?Thanks,
How big must a cylinder be if the available pump produces 2500 psi and a lifting force of at least 17,000 pounds is needed. Force 17,000 Formula: Area = Force/psi = 17000/2500 = 6.8 square inches Area = 3.14 X R X R ........ R X R = 6.8 sq in/ 3.14 = 2.17 R = Square root of 2.17 = 1.47 inch radius cylinder Diameter = 1.47 X 2 Diameter = 2.94 inches A 3-inch diameter cylinder will be sufficient.

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ellisor
Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2011-11-15 7:06 PM (#138936 - in reply to #138926)
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Paul, I curious as to how you obtained the 17,000 # lift force? I've only have a three horse trailer with less than 6,000 GVW.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-11-15 9:19 PM (#138938 - in reply to #138936)
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Originally written by ellisor on 2011-11-15 7:06 PM

Paul, I curious as to how you obtained the 17,000 # lift force? I've only have a three horse trailer with less than 6,000 GVW.


I was just showing you how to do the calculation I just choose a number...
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