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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-03-30 5:38 PM (#132382)
Subject: Slide not Slide


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What would make a slide not slide?

The motor will run, just not move out.  It is hydraulic & was working yesterday.

Thanks!

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-03-30 6:32 PM (#132384 - in reply to #132382)
Subject: RE: Slide not Slide


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Originally written by SunChick on 2011-03-30 5:38 PM

What would make a slide not slide?

The motor will run, just not move out.  It is hydraulic & was working yesterday.

Thanks!

Do you see a hydraulic fluid leak? Do you hear the moaning or grinding sound at the initial start of the operation of the piston shafts traveling through the free travel area of the brackets? You could have an internal failure of the hydraulic system where the fluid is going through the pressure relief valve for some reason. Did you check your hydraulic fluid level?

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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-03-30 8:46 PM (#132391 - in reply to #132382)
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Ok..  How do you do that?

I'm sorry, but I am clueless... lol...

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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-03-30 8:49 PM (#132392 - in reply to #132382)
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I just purchased the trailer used yesterday and it is a 08 model.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-03-31 12:59 AM (#132404 - in reply to #132392)
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Originally written by SunChick on 2011-03-30 8:49 PM

I just purchased the trailer used yesterday and it is a 08 model.

Who is the manufacturer of the slide part of the trailer? Did you buy this from a dealer or was it a private sale?
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DROVER
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2011-03-31 4:46 AM (#132406 - in reply to #132382)
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Ever see the automatic slide-out that Shadow makes? No electric or hydraulic motor- just push it in or out. Looks like there is nothing to break.
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brushycreekranch
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2011-03-31 8:06 AM (#132418 - in reply to #132382)
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Are your batteries charged?

 

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brushycreekranch
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2011-03-31 8:13 AM (#132419 - in reply to #132382)
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Yes Drover I have. You are right, they don't need power, they just push out and in. BUT....They give you less than half  the floor space of a regular slide. So, with two of them directly across from each other, you still have less floor space than a slide in one of the top brands. I have personally looked at them and carefully measured the difference.
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2011-03-31 8:53 AM (#132421 - in reply to #132382)
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Could be a low battery issue. Enough power to start the motor but not energize the solenoid. Is the room moving at all?Could something have fallen between the inner edge of the room and the outside wall?
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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-04-01 2:14 PM (#132501 - in reply to #132421)
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It's a HWH.  I ran the generator for 30 minutes, still nothing moved.  No oil or leakage.  It is on a slight tilt, but the same as when I opened and closed before.

Thanks for any help!

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Duckman
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2011-04-01 3:03 PM (#132502 - in reply to #132382)
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Check fluid in reservoir, may have air lock and need to bleed line? Switch solenoid sticking??
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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-04-01 3:13 PM (#132503 - in reply to #132382)
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I have no idea what your are talking about... lol...

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2011-04-01 3:46 PM (#132504 - in reply to #132503)
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Originally written by SunChick on 2011-04-01 4:13 PM

I have no idea what your are talking about... lol...

Have you contacted the seller yet? They may be able to help, they may have run into the same problem in the past. What make trailer is it. Is it a new 2008 model? Did you buy from a dealer or from an individual? Did you get any operation instruction manuals with the trailer?....??

 

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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-04-01 4:55 PM (#132506 - in reply to #132382)
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It came from an individual with no operation instruction manuals. 

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brushycreekranch
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2011-04-01 5:11 PM (#132509 - in reply to #132382)
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Have you checked your fuses?
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-04-01 8:57 PM (#132517 - in reply to #132382)
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Slide out Mechanical Drive Systems –Electric or Hydraulic Electric Motor Driven * Gear driven electric motor drives a gear system. * Used more on smaller and lighter slides. * Work adequately when not overloaded (from engineering standpoint and yes not all are engineered correctly.) Weaknesses of Electric Slide Outs * Motor/gear box can go bad. * Can shear drive pen in main gear drive mechanism. * Motor can become overloaded ( excessive amp draw) from drag in the slide causing “broken” or “relay” to trip. Hydraulic * Used primarily on larger and heavier slides. * Can use one motor/pump assembly to power more than one slide. * Mechanically more complex than their electrical counter parts. Weaknesses of Hydraulic Systems * Possible failure of pump, valve or hydraulic line. * Hydraulic lines are particularly susceptible to wear, friction, heat etc. Can develop leaks or breaks in the lines themselves.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2011-04-01 9:14 PM (#132518 - in reply to #132382)
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Give this a read http://www.ehow.com/how_6306807_rv-slide-out-troubleshooting.html
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brushycreekranch
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2011-04-02 7:49 AM (#132523 - in reply to #132382)
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I am so sorry that you are having issues like this with your new trailer from the get go. I know you agonized over which trailer to get and fought with title issues on your choice. Hopefully, you will get it all figured out and be able to enjoy your trailer. If it were me,I would take an inventory of all appliances and major componets like the slide for instance, and start looking for manuals. I have had LQ's for over 30 years, and I still refer back to my books on occasion! You rarely need them, but when you do, it is usually in the middle of nowhere with no cell service!
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SunChick
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2011-04-02 8:47 AM (#132527 - in reply to #132382)
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The "Worse" part of this is that I had the trailer inspected BEFORE if wrote the check. 

But, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the trailer I purchased.  Took me 6 months of looking before I found it. 

Thanks again for all of yall's help with my novice questions.

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brushycreekranch
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2011-04-02 11:10 AM (#132533 - in reply to #132382)
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I would try to track down someone from Southwest Conversions, If I were you. They may be out of business, but most businesses have ties to the community they are in. Try a local feed or western store. Even if it is just a # to the owners grandmother's house, I would call trying to get what questions I could answered.  I'm not saying they would honor a warranty, but they may be able to give you some insight on how they may have done something "differently" then other conversion companies.

 They may of "hid" a pigtail plug somewhere in your slide which has unplugged the power to your slide even though you hear it "trying" to run. I had this happen on a 8' slide in a Sooner, once.



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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2011-04-04 9:34 AM (#132587 - in reply to #132527)
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Originally written by SunChick on 2011-04-02 8:47 AM

The "Worse" part of this is that I had the trailer inspected BEFORE if wrote the check. 

But, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the trailer I purchased.  Took me 6 months of looking before I found it. 

Thanks again for all of yall's help with my novice questions.

Try contacting the trailer manufacturer. They might have some knowledge of how Southwest ran their wires for the switches. As far as the hydraulic part, the trailer manufacturer would have done that part of it. Simple things to check.. Key switch on? All fuses good? Does it make any noise or try to slide at all? If not, that narrows it down tremendously.
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2011-04-04 12:04 PM (#132595 - in reply to #132527)
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Originally written by SunChick on 2011-04-02 8:47 AM

The "Worse" part of this is that I had the trailer inspected BEFORE if wrote the check. 

But, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the trailer I purchased.  Took me 6 months of looking before I found it. 

Thanks again for all of yall's help with my novice questions.



Really there is no "Worse" part. All my stuff is out of warranty and there are failures and wear-outs all the time. Since it worked before, it's just Nature trying to return all things back to dust. I'm trying to reassure you that "stuff happens" and don't beat yourself that you made a poor purchase. If you're trying to avoid taking it to a dealer repair, find a friend with some mechanical skill to look at all the simple causes first.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2011-04-04 4:19 PM (#132599 - in reply to #132382)
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If the motor is running, you probably don't have an electrical issue. The motor drives a hydraulic pump, that draws fluid from a reservoir and sends it to an actuator. If you have a mechanically inclined friend that can loosen the pressure hose at the actuator, and then toggle the motor switch, he can see if there is pressure where it is needed.

If you don't see any hydraulic oil underneath the mechanical areas, and the reservoir is still full, the drive from the motor to the pump may have sheared. This can be substantiated, by the lack of fluid escaping from the loosened hose, when the pump is running.

It's a relatively simple system and should be easily diagnosed by a competent mechanic. You probably wouldn't have to take it to a trailer dealer to discover the problem.

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