Try http://www.ford-trucks.com go to the forum section and read all you want on the 2011s, both gassers and the new 6.7L PSD.

Steve

I bought one last summer and have a little over 13,000 miles on it now.

The empty highway mileage is better than my previous 6.0L and 7.3L trucks. And should be lots better than the 2008-2010 6.4L trucks. I've gotten as high as 23 mpg on a 300 mile trip between SLC and Jackson Hole.  But average around town is 15 mpg

My towing mileage around town is about the same as my 6.0L trucks. 11.5 to 12.5 mpg depending what trailer and what route I take. This truck really needs to get up to cruise in 6th gear to show any mileage improvement.  Lots of stop/start traffic will drop the mileage to pretty much what the 6.0L were getting.

As far as creature comforts. I am very pleased with this truck.  Rides good. quiet. navigation, bluetooth phone, back up cameras all work great.  The DEF required on 2011 diesels is no big deal. Fill it up every 5000 miles. Has lots of power for towing. The built in Exhaust Brake works well. I come down off 7000 and 8000 foot summits on 7% grade roads and rarely use my brake peddle.

What more do you want to know?

Check out www.dieselpowermag.com...  They just did another test on the new Ford and Chevy 1-ton 4x4 dually trucks and the chevy beat Ford all the way around.  What makes this even better the test was done using the same driver for both trucks and this man retired from Ford!  This is a good write up using both trucks in Co. on one of the hardest section of road in the country for towing.  And before someone knocks me about the road conditions I stated (1), not the only!

Good luck on the mileage...... Don't get your hopes up!

When it comes to the new rigs, you really can't go wrong with any of the Big 3 Diesels at this point, they are all good trucks.

Test drive them all and see which one works best for you and which is a better deal, plus which dealer is closer for support.

I'm a 7.3L PSD guy and I would always wait on new model year trucks to build a track record before I jump in for the $ they are costing these days.

I keep saying that if I were to buy a new truck, I would go with Dodge at this stage of the game. They've made a lot of improvements structurally, with the transmission, interior, exterior, and you can't really go wrong with the 6.7 cummins-which requires no DEF -nice-. Not to mention they are $10-$12k less new than Ford or Chevy. It doesn't have 800 ft lbs of torque, but geez, who needs it? My Ford 6.0 tuned has around 650 ft lbs and it does everything and more than I could ever ask it to.

Like stated, you can't really go wrong with any of the Big 3 Diesels.

Check out the lastest TV ad for Dodge heavy duty trucks with Sam Elliott....

800ft lbs.!!!!  I think this is with the urea mess.......  I do know the cab n chassis models does have that grap now.  What a waste, I will stick with my 07.5 that is tuned to the max! (just waiting on tranny upgrades so I cna go more power)

Don't you mean "RAM" trucks..!! Fiat did away with the Dodge name on the trucks, didn't they? http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/

Whats the big deal about DEF.  It's been a no brainer to use.  fill the tank once every 5000-6000 miles and just drive. They have been using it on smoke stacks scrubbers for years here in the USA and on Diesel cars in Europe. So it's not a new technology.  It has not only been added to most pickup trucks, But most of the big over the road semi trucks. Hence you see the DEF Pumps at the truck stops. It won't be a long time that buying a jug at Autozone will not be the choice, but rather fill up at the pump while you buy fuel.

Regardless of whether you drive an 03 with EGR, an 07.5 with a bigger EGR or 08 with a DPF and EGR, or an 11 with SCR and DPF, You have got some form of pollution control on your truck, Making the air cleaner for all of us to breath. We can now get better power, better mileage and cleaner air with the SCR systems. So why not. The Ford 7.3L engines were phased out because of emission. I assume similar emission were added to GM and Dodge. So any diesel after 2003 has some form of emssions. At least the engineers have improved on the equipment.

Disabling the pollution equipment is not an option, I have to take my truck in every year and have the emmissions tested.  If I have removed anything, I've got to put it back on before the test. It's not worth the headache. I've got better things to do than putting the EGR and CAT back on my truck for an emissions test.

I'm not vain enough to think that because I own a Ford, it's the only or the best choice available.  Ford, GM and Dodge are all building good products.  Does one beat another one in a certain test.  Absolutely.  does the other brand beat the first in a different test with different critera, sure! Pick the brand you like/want and be happy with it . This post was asking for info about the new Fords. So I contributed since I own one and have first hand knowledge.

Is my 2011 truck better than my 2000, 2003 or 2006 trucks. Absolutely.  Will it be as good as the 2015 ( or what ever year I buy my next new truck)  I hope not. Engineering should continue to evolve, I hope competition continues to push all three of the domestic truck mfg to improve on their products.

That they do, but I was more talking about the standard trucks. They are also subject to stricter emissions regulations.

To me, DEF is just "one more fluid" to buy. Not that I'm complaining about an extra 12-15 bucks 2-3 times a year. Sure the new diesels are amazing trucks that goes beyond their capabilities. The days of rattling, black smoke billowing, loud diesels are over (from the manuacturer anyway). I agree, I hope the 2011 is a better truck than even the 2010. Maybe for me, DEF is just a small representative of larger more political arena that I can't come to grips with--or agree with.

I'm sure it's no big deal to fill and there is nothing inherently wrong with using it for cleaner air, planet conservation, and so on.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.