Posted 2010-10-03 4:01 PM (#125426) Subject: What make's a good trailer
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Every month or so someone will ask what is or are the best trailers. What I would like to see is; Objectivly what makes a good trailer good. Not Subjectivly. Specifically what is the criteria the people that know use. We always here this brand or that brand is good,or bad, never telling us why. Without using Brand names or trying to sell a brand. Lets talk about Aluminum Trailers. There are people on this forum that know alot about trailers and there are people like me that want to be a better informed user. So please save the selling and just teach the rest of us something new.
Posted 2010-10-03 7:12 PM (#125427 - in reply to #125426) Subject: RE: What make's a good trailer
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I don't know a lot about the technical side of things, but a good trailer to me is one that is well constructed. It is made with the safety of horse and horse person in mind. It is also user-friendly and constructed from quality materials. The corners are square and welds are strong and clean. It has edges that are not sharp where a person or a horse could cut themselves. It has the appropriate axles for the weight of the trailer and cargo. It should also be built to last.
I was at the KILE Show in Harrisburg, PA this weekend and was told by a trailer dealer that there are no quality trailers out there, all manufacturerers have huge problems. I told him I had to disagree. I have had one trailer out of the five I have owned that had a water leak in the neck and have never had any other problems except for ones requiring regular maintenence.
Posted 2010-10-03 10:04 PM (#125436 - in reply to #125426) Subject: RE: What make's a good trailer
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Different people purchasing the same trailer will have different criteria as to what is the best trailer. I've seen people buy a trailer based only on the interior appointments of the LQ, and not even look at the stalls. My ideas are simple: I want a well built horse trailer first, and a LQ secondly; it is after all, a horse trailer. Both can be modest in appearance, but both have to be reliable and functional.
A well built trailer is dependent on several things: materials, design, craftmanship and engineering. Materials are a major factor in building a good trailer. There are many types of aluminum, not all are the best for trailer applications. In addition to the many types of aluminum, there are treatments for each which can enhance the strengths of the various materials. The better materials cost more, and not all trailers are built using them.
The proper design of a trailer, will enhance the liveability of both inhabitants, humans and the livestock. Easy to use latches, adequate stall sizes, proper ventilation and lighting are only a few of many criteria necessary for a safe and comfortable trip.
Craftsmanship differentiates the quality of trailers, whether it is seen or hidden. The skills of the builders, will help determine the longevity of the trailer. If the construction is hurried and shoddy, your bargan may not be so in a few years.
Engineering is the crux of the build. It will determine the type of materials, their placements, their stresses and ability to handle loads for long term durability. This is where many trailers fail. In an effort to save money, manufacturers will use lighter, cheaper materials in spacings that can cause a failure when the trailer is used hard. Better trailers use additional framing near the rear bulkhead opening, with gussets added to the major joints. Instead of welded butt joints, they are mitered, adding additional strength to the joints.
Some builders use axles and tires that barely meet the weights they are used to carry. There is no reserve capacity. This results in bent axles and blow outs. Better trailers will add a third axle to a long heavy trailer when necessary, instead of having too little axle support.
Here are some specifics: Smooth skin siding is usually .040", and held on by tape. Extruded siding is usually .125" and is welded to each wall stud. You can guess which is more durable. Today, most of the skin metal has tape between the wall studs and the siding. A less expensivelly built trailer will only have the tape. A better built trailer will have additional rivets around the circumference of the panel, to hold and locate the metal. The difference is noticeable after a few years, when the edges start to lift on the unrivited panels. The difference in wall stud spacing will effect the overall rigidity of the wall. Some builders space over two feet, other better ones will be less. Most builders use 6061 aluminum for framing; only a few use t-6 heat treated materials. There have been previous postings, where people wondered why the framework of one trailer was easier to drill into than another. Heat treatments cost more and greatly enhance the strength of the metal.
There are several ways to build a floor. One is to apply individual planks over a framework. The thickness of the planking on better trailers will be .125", heat treated to a T-6 and made of 5xxx series aluminum for better corrosion resistance. The better spacing of the floor joists will be a foot or so or less, with a wide web on the top. Each plank will be individually welded to each joist. Some builders use a continuous sheet flooring, and the joists will have to be closer together to support it without oil canning.
LQ interiors are another matter, and have little to do with the reliability and structural integrity of the trailer. It would take many hours of typing to enumerate all the differences in a well built trailer. There are manufactures that have good reputations and have sold many trailers for many years. Their owners constantly praise their purchases and have kept their trailers for several years; they are the ones to emulate.
Posted 2010-10-04 11:13 AM (#125449 - in reply to #125426) Subject: RE: What make's a good trailer
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I will second Gard's information and add some more. I have two LQ trailers, a Featherlight and an Elite. Even a layman can easily tell the differences. Both trailers parked side by side, look at several features which, while they increase the initial contruction cost also increase the overall quality of the trailer. Some of these are optional, but are almost only seen on your higher quality trailers: Hinges; massive welded on hinges on doors and windows vs lighter weight bolted on. Windows, heavy aluminum framed vs lighter mass manufactured. Rear windows, drop down instead of bus. Nose length .5 foot longer on the high end trailers. Nose height, 4 inch dropped. All doors and windows very square, good clearances and close and open easilly. Trailer pulls very easy and smooth, feels like it isn't even behind you even with a 3/4 ton truck (axle placement accuracy?squareness?). Closeness of spacing of rivets and bolts on, nose, sheet aluminum walls, roof. Presence of, and height and length of extruded aluminum. How much of the trailer is all aluminum, saddle racks?, propane tank brackets?, or do you see plastic saddle racks and iron propane tank brackets. Is the trailer roof flat or bowed. Interior horse area wall mats. How heavy duty are the wall mats. How are the mats attached to the walls. How high up do the mats go? Full padded butt bars and chest bars, or just straps? How big is the battery box. Will it accomodate two 6 volt batteries? Does the box have a good sturdy latch or a flimsy one? Do the man doors for the LQ entrances, both exterior and pass trough have dead bolts? The high quality trailers are not "throw-aways" even after many years of use. Even though some LQ items will need to be replaced periodically, the quality trailer will probabably outlast most of it's buyers. I am very happy with my Featherlite and it has been trouble free. It is a good mid level trailer, but not in the class of construction of an Elite or comparable high end trailer
Posted 2010-10-07 11:14 PM (#125582 - in reply to #125426) Subject: RE: What make's a good trailer
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Quality trailers can be identified by their Foundation and Structure. The Foundation being the floor and Structure being walls ,roof , windows and doors. Foundation: Most Aluminum Trailers use extrusions to add strength to their floors. An extrusion will have flanges running opposite to the structural I-beams or C-channels. These flanges get their strength from their height and spacing. Taller and closer are stronger. Also thickness and hardness give the floor strength. When the floor is welded together it becomes the largest gusset on the trailer. Below the floor are the supports, usually I-beams or C-channels running across the trailer. Again Height thickness,separation and hardness determine how much weight the floor can carry. The Supports are welded to the lower outer rail, this is either a tube or single rail that will be something like 3/16th thick amd 8 to 10 inches tall. A very popular trailer uses flat aluminum for their floors, They use a thicker harder aluminum to try and prevent deflection. Rumber and Wood boards are also used each have some benefit's and draw backs. So when looking under a trailer don't fall in love with the distance between floor supports without considering all the other factors that go into a strong floor.
Posted 2010-10-09 12:53 AM (#125607 - in reply to #125582) Subject: RE: What make's a good trailer
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Thanks Gard, Horsecamper and Figero that is the kind of info us newbees can use. I will be in the market this spring to up grade to a new LQ trailer. I would have bought this summer but I felt I was being run over by two different saleman and just walked away. By next spring I will be better equiped to know and state what I want..... NOT what they want to sell me. Any more info will help me and others in the same boat I am in. Again Thank you for freely sharing your smarts.