Posted 2009-12-07 5:38 PM (#114043 - in reply to #113988) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 231 Location: Illinois
IT is 102...no place to install fenders, that is why I am wanting the steps. I was just concerned about placement and drilling holes in the side of my trailer. :)
Posted 2009-12-07 6:25 PM (#114047 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 420 Location: Florida
What about a portable step stool. Steps may become a hazzard if they pop out or are left out. And he next owner may be tall like me and not want the steps.
Posted 2009-12-07 8:15 PM (#114060 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 71 Location: Edmond OK
I carry a two step stool in my truck bed when I travel. I use it for the drop down windows (I can't reach mine either) and then to get in and out of the truck bed so I don't have crawl on my knees. I have short legs!
Posted 2009-12-07 10:41 PM (#114065 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
Ditto on the two step Rubber Maid or equivalent units. They can be used for many purposes, are easily moved or stored, and are inexpensive. They work well for mounting blocks, waxing your trailer, reaching the top cabinets in your kitchen, etc..
Once you have one, you'll probably buy a second one because they are very handy to have around.
Posted 2009-12-08 7:53 AM (#114067 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 720
What I think you are referring to is generally known as a "cleat step/handle". They can be used as a step and as a handle. If you put them low on your 8'W trailer to reach doors, etc., you will need handles mounted high also. Mounting them is fairly straightforward on an aluminum trailer. Generally a 3/8" self threading stainless steel screw is used. Just make sure there is a structural member behind the step so that there's enough material to hold 250# of person on the step. Excess holes in an aluminum trailer aren't pretty. By the way- there are steel, and stainless steel steps. The steel ones are suitable only for interior use. Make sure you buy the ss ones. The plastic steps as referred to above will be many $$ cheaper.
Posted 2009-12-08 10:41 AM (#114070 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 231 Location: Illinois
Yes the cleat steps are what I am referring to...when not in use the fold flush against the trailer..I was wondering if I should per drill the holes and caulk or as you stated use a self tapping screw and forgo the caulk? Thanks
Posted 2009-12-08 11:01 AM (#114071 - in reply to #114070) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 5870 Location: western PA
Originally written by To Much Trouble on 2009-12-08 11:41 AM
Yes the cleat steps are what I am referring to...when not in use the fold flush against the trailer..I was wondering if I should per drill the holes and caulk or as you stated use a self tapping screw and forgo the caulk? Thanks
You will always get a more accurate hole placement, if you pre drill a pilot hole for the self taping screws. You will also lessen the chances of starting a structural crack in the aluminum. It's a good idea to caulk between the surface and attachment, and under the screw head. Polyurethane caulking works well.
Make very sure to drill into the walls' structure and not just the siding, for the proper support.
Posted 2009-12-13 8:17 PM (#114211 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 720
The self tapping I'm thinking of are 3/8" dia stainless steel. The are self-tapping, not self drilling. They will very much need a pilot hole of the size directed by their supplier. By nature s/s is very brittle, and breaking one off half into a improperly sized hole will really ruin a good day...
Posted 2009-12-18 7:16 AM (#114371 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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Posts: 648 Location: Coconut Creek, FL
I had one of those fold down cleat steps on my previous trailer and it worked great - very handy. Now I have a grey plastic folding step $15 at Wal-Mart and it's very handy for mounting, reaching high stuff, and I use it to step into the back of the trailer... very handy device and inexpensive
Posted 2009-12-18 5:14 PM (#114382 - in reply to #113985) Subject: RE: installing folding steps
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If you use these type of folding steps, the spring pin that holds the step up will wear out and the step will fall down while traveling down the road. It is not a big problem, but something to keep in mind.
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