Posted 2009-10-19 2:16 PM (#112085) Subject: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Have finally gotten the hubby to take the plunge into a living quarter horse trailer. I currently pull a 28 ft valu-lite sundowner. We converted the 2ft short wall into living space quite ingeniously and we make do. I would like to stay with a 4 horse and go with a slide out so I don't have a bunch of extra length. I just don't want something that is so long that I can't get around. Any suggestions? Plan to also buy a diesel, hubby thinks he has current truck sold. How badly do I need a dually? Any info would be beneficial. Thanks
Posted 2009-10-20 5:22 PM (#112146 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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the trailer you get dependes on wheather you need a dually or not...
we have an 07 3horse totally loaded elite it you're interested.. we'are combinging households and have 2 of everything...
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Posted 2009-10-21 10:38 AM (#112179 - in reply to #112148) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Originally written by sinful on 2009-10-20 6:23 PM
Your going to need the Dually with a Living Quarters Trailer.
I will have to DISAGREE with you on this! Yes, depending on the size LQ you are hauling most cases a single wheel truck works just fine. However a large trailer will handle much better with dual wheel!
My 2004 Sooner we had was an 8' SW 4 HORSE trailer and we pulled it with a single wheel truck and never had any problems. The Sundowner 10sw 3 horse we have now I pull local with a single wheel truck with no problems, just to keep the miles off of our new truck. But the 2000
Posted 2009-10-21 11:41 AM (#112184 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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If your going to get a 4 horse living quarter w/ a slide out you might as well get dually if you're alredy spending the money to get a srw. The srw will probably handle it fine but a dually is so much nicer to have in the wind handling the extra weight. Hope you find a trailer that you like.
Posted 2009-10-21 12:08 PM (#112189 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Hi, For what it is worth I have pulled a living quarters with both a single wheel and a dually, and the dually was far better. The single wheel worked, but as my husband pointed out , if you have a blowout with a single wheel you stand a far better chance of getting into a wreck than if it was a dually. I was never a fan of duallys until I actually used one and now I am sold on them. I will also admit that most people don't like using them for an everyday rig. I do simply because its what works for me. So that may also figure into your consideration. Good luck and congrats.
Posted 2009-10-21 3:17 PM (#112204 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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I'm guessing that is a total of 28ft overall on your current trailer so about 20 on the floor? I have a 4 horse with 10ft SW and it is 28ft on the floor. I have been looking at a new trailer with a slide and chances are, you will end up with something at least 28ft on the floor. Get the dually. LQ trailers get heavy and the extra support is very nice to have as is mentioned here. The trailers get big, fast when you are looking at 4 horse trailers.
Posted 2009-10-22 12:39 PM (#112238 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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every 6 years like clock work we have bought a dually and have it just long enough to remember why we hate them in the snow, ice, walmart parking lot etc,etc. Pull a 14' short wall 4 horse w/timbrins. However, a slide out will probably take you over the edge. good luck
Posted 2009-10-22 3:48 PM (#112249 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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We pull two different LQs with a SRW truck. We also have pulled out some duallys from the muddy parking areas at various shows. The only tire our truck has blown was a front tire. We like our truck, it works very well, and we do not want a dually.
Posted 2009-10-22 4:06 PM (#112253 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Posted 2009-10-22 9:55 PM (#112257 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Anything over an 8' short wall and you will need a dually. Yeah, some folks don't have one but I would not recommend it. The problem is trucks rear axle weight. With a SRW truck you are out of tire at a little over 6,000lbs. If the DOT did pull you over for a safetly inspection or if you had a wreck they could blame it on this factor and write you a ticket for it. I have weighed my rig empty, Exiss XT 412 Event. It is a 12' short wall, 4 horse trailer. The trucks rear axle weight was a little over 7,000 lbs. So, my thing is go weigh your truck and new trailer at a certified scale. If you are at 6,000 lbs on the rear axle, you will need a dually.
Posted 2009-10-22 9:58 PM (#112258 - in reply to #112238) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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Originally written by whitewood on 2009-10-22 4:39 PM
every 6 years like clock work we have bought a dually and have it just long enough to remember why we hate them in the snow, ice, walmart parking lot etc,etc. Pull a 14' short wall 4 horse w/timbrins. However, a slide out will probably take you over the edge. good luck
Go weigh your rig, You are well over your rear tire ratings unless you have 19.5 in. rims and tires.
Posted 2009-10-26 3:18 PM (#112448 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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I'm just wondering if you can get a slide with only an 8' shortwall?
We just sold our dually, and bought another 1 ton, but this time with single rear axle. The trailer is a 4 horse with 8' short wall, no slide. Floor length is 26'.
I was quite concerned about going to the single axle truck, because I was pretty happy with the incredible stability of the dually. It made me feel really safe while pulling that trailer. Even in a high wind, it was a rock. However, we do live in the country where the roads are dirt and the snowbanks are deep, and I was getting tired of worrying about getting stuck. So, combine that with the extra price tag of a newer dually vs. single axle, and we decided to take the single. I have to say, I don't regret it at all. It pulls better than the last truck (bigger engine), and is every bit as stable. I'm quite impressed with the handling. Your call, however, when it comes to the slide, as I have no experience with that.
As for trailer length, our is 26' on the floor, and I have had no trouble getting around corners and into fuel stations. You learn fast where you will fit, and where you won't, and you'd be surprised at how many places you can squeeze a trailer that size.
Posted 2009-10-28 10:11 AM (#112502 - in reply to #112448) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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TPenning asked about a slide in 8' SW. Yes custom builders can. But if you put a six foot slide on the wall you will lose about another foot of wall with the framing for the slide. That with wall thickness will leave less than a foot for the bath. This will also take most of your storage out of the trailer.
Posted 2009-10-28 3:08 PM (#112511 - in reply to #112085) Subject: RE: New Living Quarters Horse Trailer
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There is a negligible difference in the payload capacity of a DRW vs SRW one ton, and a SRW will actually have a higher payload capacity than a DRW, all other things the same, because its lighter.
It comes down to how you are going to use the truck and trailer. I drive alot of highway miles and want the stability the DRW offers. If I was hauling locally and had to drive the truck as my daily driver, I'd probably prefer a SRW.
Check out the payload specs on the trucks you are considering. Might narrow down your choices.