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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-03 12:14 PM (#108904)
Subject: trailer weighing truck bed down


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I have a 3 horse slant load, bumper pull - just bought a 2006 F250, hooked up trailer and the bed of the truck drops and makes the front of trailer tip down and the bed of truck low. Does anyone have any suggestions to what they think the problem is??

thanks!



Edited by appyup 2009-08-03 12:23 PM
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2009-08-03 1:49 PM (#108908 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Too much tongue weight for the truck's present suspension.

Was the trailer loaded when you hooked up?

Is the truck level when viewed from the rear?

Have you checked the springs for a broken leaf?  One or both sides may have a broken leaf.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-08-03 1:49 PM (#108909 - in reply to #108904)
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Too much trailer, too little of a truck... Need more rear springs... What's your pin weight..?

http://www.fsip.com/riderite/

http://www.timbren.com/

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/cgi-bin/suscon/helper_springs.html

 

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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-03 1:56 PM (#108910 - in reply to #108908)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Trailer wasnt loaded when hooked up, the truck is level viewed from rear when not hooked up to trailer.

Havent checked the springs or anything yet, was looking for ideas on what to check first and before I call auto shop or dealer.

This is 4th truck with my trailer. I had a Chev 3/4 ton 4x5 speed and a 97 Dodge 4x Diesel and a F150 4x... just bought a F250 super duty for more power, but have never had this happen before... am hoping its fixable and not going to be too expensive. I'll start with the springs... any other suggestions are welcome! THANKS!

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2009-08-03 6:35 PM (#108921 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Another thought... Since the truck is used and new only to you... A previous owner may have reduced the spring pack for a softer ride.  Compare the thickness and number of leaves with another 2006 F250 truck.
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calamityj
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2009-08-03 6:54 PM (#108922 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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What size is the trailer? what is the box length? what is the weight (you can find the rating under the gooseneck on the tag), what is the GVWR on the truck? it is probably about 8=9,000.If you are planning any trips that involve hills or mountains... you may need more truck.R
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flyinghfarm
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2009-08-03 8:23 PM (#108924 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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it is a bumper pull, i believe
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301duster
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2009-08-03 8:29 PM (#108925 - in reply to #108904)
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I would check the springs as suggested.  Have you considered an equalizer hitch,  I used to pull a 4 horse FRP trailer with an excursion.  Used an equalizer hitch and never had a problem, kept the rig level and worked fine.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-08-03 10:32 PM (#108931 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Unless your trailer has an unusually heavy tack room, I find it hard to believe that its tongue weight has such an effect on a stock SD. It takes almost a ton of weight for our suspension to even touch the helper springs, much less effect a low hitch.

We have pulled a 3H BP, and LQ 3H GNs and not had a problem with the stock springs. It was only when a 1 ton+ camper was added to a BP trailer load, that we added Timbrens to help stabilize the camper's high loading center of gravity.

As has been suggested, the suspension may have been modified by the previous owner. I would look at similar trucks to yours, and try to determine what differences your spring pacs may have. The camper and towing options will change the installed springs from truck to truck, as well as 4 x 4 and 2 WD package configurations.

Be careful how many springs you add to the main pacs. Too many and it will adversely effect your empty ride. Adding more to your overload springs will help under a load, and not change an empty ride. The installation of air bags and Timbrens, will also help maintaining a level ride with a loaded truck.

Gard

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hogtownboss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-08-04 3:49 PM (#108967 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Originally written by appyup on 2009-08-03 12:14 PM

I have a 3 horse slant load, bumper pull - just bought a 2006 F250, hooked up trailer and the bed of the truck drops and makes the front of trailer tip down and the bed of truck low. Does anyone have any suggestions to what they think the problem is??

thanks!



Your truck should have a reciever hitch already installed and with the later model (02-07) Fords F-250SD's that I have had EVERY ONE of them need a rasied hitch to haul with. (other than the 4x4 models)
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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-05 9:52 AM (#108998 - in reply to #108967)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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It has a reciever hitch, when the trailer is hooked up it brings down the whole bed of the truck, a raised hitch wont keep the bed from dropping
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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-05 10:00 AM (#108999 - in reply to #108931)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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thanks for all your help!

The trailer wight is 12,500, on a 3 horse slant bumper pull with small tack room... (sounds high, is that possible?) The tongue load @ ball is 1,875 and its a 20' long trailer

The truck GVWR is 9200lbs, rear GAWR 6100lbs and front GAWR is 3950lbs

Do you think a stabilizer might still work, or air springs better? or should I go back to the dealer since he told me the truck could handle my trailer??

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-08-05 10:37 AM (#109001 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Never heard of a 12K # bumper pull 3H trailer. It's no wonder the truck is squatting. You will definitely need air bags or Timbrens or a "Sport Truck".

I'd check your specifications again. Even fully loaded, most BP trailers don't come near to that weight, without an installed LQ.

Gard

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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-05 11:07 AM (#109002 - in reply to #109001)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Im going to double check the trailer weight tonight and dig up my papers, the label was a bit hard to read... I agree and think its way to high
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adeberti
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2009-08-05 11:15 AM (#109004 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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I would double check the springs/suspension on the F250We have an 05 F350 with a 4H BP at about 4500lbs (altough alluminum) and the truck doesn't really squat hardly at all....and we load 3 heavy horses (1200,1100 and 1600lbs)
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wyndancer
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2009-08-05 11:18 AM (#109005 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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I think the 12.5k is high.

Friend just took delivery of a new Keifer 2+1, with an additional 40" in the dressing room. Makes it like 24' on the floor. Rated for 14k..dealer claimed it weighed 4400 empty.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-08-06 12:12 AM (#109042 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Confirm your tongue weight with one of these...

http://www.sherline.com/lm.htm

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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-06 9:43 AM (#109052 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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Was wrong on the trailer weight, its actually 2700lbs. The dealer we just purchased the truck from has agreed to check out the truck this morning with the trailer attached, since he assured us when we upgraded from the F150 to the F250 that it could haul our trailer with horses... will post what the end result is FYI

Thanks!!

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-08-06 11:18 AM (#109053 - in reply to #109052)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down




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Are you sure that is not maximum loaded weight?
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ridingarocky
Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2009-08-06 11:25 AM (#109054 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down



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2700 lbs sounds light for a 3 horse bumper pull.  My 2 horse Hart weighs at least that much... It also weighs down the back of my SUV... needs new springs..
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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-06 11:36 AM (#109055 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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its the unladen weight per the registration
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-08-06 11:41 AM (#109056 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down




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I read that wrong. I took that as tongue weight. It does sound a little light for the entire trailer weight.

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appyup
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2009-08-07 10:06 AM (#109117 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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FYI The mechanic at the dealer found that the rear springs were toast, they have ordered new springs and are going to replace and cover the cost, hopefully thats it =)

Edited by appyup 2009-08-07 10:08 AM
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Yvette
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2009-08-08 9:11 AM (#109162 - in reply to #108904)
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The rear springs are toast on a 2006? Wow. Is this a common defect for the year? I'd be asking the dealer a lot of questions.
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brendaclemens
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2009-08-09 12:02 AM (#109168 - in reply to #108904)
Subject: RE: trailer weighing truck bed down


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I have an 03 Dodge 3/4 ton...same problem but not as bad as you describe, bought airbags. LOVE them!
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