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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-27 3:16 PM (#107156)
Subject: slight panting


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We live in the deep South and the temps and humidity have been unbearable already. Have noticed lately that my 19 yr. old QH gelding starts panting a good bit in this heat. Not like he has been ridden hard, but not normal breathing either. I hose him down with cold water and it usually stops, but have never noticed him doing this before. I guess the water lowers his body temp., and he seems better. Anyone else know or experienced this?? Going to check with my vet on Monday to see if this is normal and/or what should I do? My other 5 QH's aren't doing this. Only one is older than him at 21, and he seems fine. The rest are 6,12, 13, etc.. He is sweating, so not sure why he is doing this. Any comments are welcome.
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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-27 8:50 PM (#107169 - in reply to #107156)
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Correction-Went back out and found 2 more of them panting and hosed them down as well. The first one had dried and was back at it again, hosed him again and put them all in their stalls with the fans and misters on. Guess I will have to watch them more carefully until this heat wave and humidity give us a little break. High today was probably 95-99 and the heat index, 103-110, and the humidity at 73-74%.
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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-27 9:03 PM (#107171 - in reply to #107156)
Subject: RE: slight panting


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It is 9:00pm and 90 degrees, heat index 99 degrees and 60% humidity.

Like a steam bath out there!

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2009-06-28 1:33 PM (#107188 - in reply to #107156)
Subject: RE: slight panting


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Are they PANTING,or,are their nostrils flaring out somewhat? I didn't think horses panted to cool down,only the canines,etc.

Sweating is very normal in this type of heat/humidity,even without activity.

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2009-06-28 5:36 PM (#107194 - in reply to #107156)
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I have seen this happen when the humidity is very, very high.  Sweat will not evaporate when the humidity gets really high and thus  no cooling happens.  They'll pant and flare nostrils trying to cool themselves.  I'd allow them access to their stalls with fans and misters 24/7 if possible.  Some horses will splash in their water troughs trying to get water up on their necks and chests in this weather too.

Shade in a windy part of the pasture is a must in this heat.  Placing misters along a fence or hanging from a shady structure are also good ideas.

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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-28 6:04 PM (#107197 - in reply to #107156)
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Your right Crowleysridgegirl. Dogs pant. They aren't panting I guess, but the nostrils flaring out and their breathing more labored than it should be. You can see them breathing harder by looking at their flanks as well.

Makes sense Huntseat, but we have always lived here(high humidity) and I have never noticed it before. There is plenty of shade, but they were more interested in grazing. The other suggestions are good as well. Looks like we might get some rain tonight and tomorrow. Sure hope so. We have been dry about 3 weeks now and we sure don't need to be back in the drought situation this early in the summer. I will see what my vet says as well, first thing in the am.

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2009-06-28 10:26 PM (#107211 - in reply to #107156)
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There's your answer...if they were still comfortable enough to graze then they are fine.
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randemtam
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-29 9:06 AM (#107228 - in reply to #107197)
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Horses do pant. Some pant more often than others. Usually the horses with the largest body mass have a tendancy to pant. It is not the most effeicient cooling method but it is one of the methods horses use to cool their bodies. Panting in itself is not a big issue, it's panting in lieu of sweating that can be a big issue. Horses can develope anhidrosis in extreme heat and humidity. Anhidrosis is when the body becomes overwhelmed and its cooling mechanism shuts down. Some horses are more prone to it than others and it can be very dangerous. If your horses are sweating normally and their rectal temps are normal, then you should be fine. If the sweat is only under the mane (for example) or only under the tack after being ridden, then your horse may be suffering from some degree of anhidrosis...the skin will also feel dry and hot and sometimes look a bit wrinkled. There is a big difference in the way a horse with anhidrosis feels than one that doesn't have it. Be careful with your horses in these conditions especially if they aren't particularly fit going into them.

I have dealt with anhidrosis before and it is not fun. I was fortunate that the horse did not contiue with it after the first summer that he developed it and I'm a bit paranoid about it. It's interesting that these horses, when sent North, will begin sweating normally again....Be careful out there! 

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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-29 12:48 PM (#107264 - in reply to #107156)
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Spoke with my vet and he says to keep doing what I am doing. As long as they are sweating, don't have diarrhea, eating good, and not moping around then everything should be fine. Hopefully the really extreme heat and humidity will lessen some soon. Suggested that in the hottest part of the day I can stall them and put fans on them, so guess I will just keep a watchful eye on them, especially the older ones. Thanks for the comments!
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randemtam
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-29 7:21 PM (#107297 - in reply to #107264)
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I can't believe this is just the beginning!! I hate summers down here. I have one horse that really pants in this weather and he's a big boy so I keep a close eye on him especially. I'm sure yours will be fine but it's a good thing to be aware of.

Stay cool!

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N2ridin
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2009-06-29 8:56 PM (#107306 - in reply to #107156)
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Yesterday, I was summoned to take my friends horse to the clinic as she was "colicy".  Indeed she had limpomas on her intestines, but she was also suffering from heat stroke.  She has access to her stall with a fan and a large paddock.  Unfortunately . . . she had to be put down.  I asked the vet if he had seen others suffering from heat stroke.  He said they had seen 3 in the last 2 weeks.  I too am in Alabama.

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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-06-29 9:19 PM (#107310 - in reply to #107156)
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Wow, that is scary. So sorry for your friend. I will definitely be keeping mine hosed down. It was better today. We got some drier air that came thru, so even tho it got to about 95 it wasn't bad at all. That will be short lived tho, so we got a long summer ahead.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2009-06-30 7:25 AM (#107326 - in reply to #107156)
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The problem with hosing them down in such humidity is without some air flowing, the horses end up hot and wet with no way to evaporate the water. I'd rather make sure they have shade and air flow-fans blowing across them help cool them down far more plus access of plenty of water. We have alot of experience with the heat and humidity with our dairy cattle-we do have sprinklers but if we do that its important to have some air blowing across their backs to remove the moisture.
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acy
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2009-07-01 12:37 PM (#107425 - in reply to #107156)
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hose them down then WIPE IF OFF w/ a sweat scraper.  if you leave the water on it will quickly warm up and act as an insulator to keep the heat in.     hose them down paying attention esp. to areas where the big vessels are- neck, between front and hind legs- scrape the water off, hose again and repeat until the skin feels cool.  
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2009-07-01 5:42 PM (#107444 - in reply to #107156)
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Are these animals bad overweight? I have had a few pant in years past.Always the ones I had pant or have seen doing such had been ridden way to hard in hot weather or were not fit for the long ride and heat.I have seen a few others that were bad fat in the heat do it.I use to ride a couple of geldings a lot even in this kind of heat with no issues.Those boys when I did such were fit.Others I saw panting(a few for hours)were not in good shape and overweight.Just curious if the weight is making it worse.
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stablemom
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2009-07-01 7:36 PM (#107452 - in reply to #107156)
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No, they are not overweight. We watch their weight very carefully (laminitis,, and other issues). They have not been ridden in quite awhile, just pasture ornaments for now until this heat subsides. It has just been extremely hot with very high humidity and high heat indices. We have had heat warnings for days for people who work outside, the elderly, etc...However the last few days, we have had a wonderful break. The temps are still high but the dewpoint and humidity have been drastically lower. The humidity is on the rise now, but the temps are suppose to come down into the lower 90 range, so we will see. Also, our rain chances are going up and a shower can help cool them off for a little while, but then of course things get steamy!!!
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Spooler
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2009-07-04 9:36 PM (#107530 - in reply to #107156)
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Whew!!!!! Tell me about the heat. I haven't had any issues with mine and it has been 110-115 heat index lately. It is terribly hot and humid. Riding, forget it.... Let mine out in the pasture and they don't even care. Sweat a little, that's it. Just make sure you have plenty of clean water and salt/mineral access. When I am outside I am pouring sweat.
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2009-07-05 6:05 AM (#107538 - in reply to #107156)
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Spooler brings up another point. Be sure Y'all drink plenty of fluids in this weather, too. I go through several quarts of liquids doing barn chores and sweat every drop back out! Plan projects based on whats in the shade. Try to do indoor work during the hottest part of the afternoon. Not worth much to the ponies if WE have a heat stroke,now are we?
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Spooler
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2009-07-05 11:36 PM (#107584 - in reply to #107156)
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The last couple of weeks heat has put a damper on my plans of riding, dang it... Wanted to try my new boy out. He would of been fine, it's me. 30 min. outside and the sweat is in my dang eyes, all down my face, soaked shirt, and the patience is very short. Been carrying around a water bottle with ice water...LOL...

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