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Location: Minnesota | I'm wondering if there is anyone out there that has a LQ trailer, where the dividers come out & and they haul a small car instead? It seems my husband is more interested in LQ if he can take a trip without horses sometimes. My priority is the horses safety, of course. Thanks  |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by Horselover2 on 2013-10-16 11:52 PM<BR><BR>I'm wondering if there is anyone out there that has a LQ trailer, where the dividers come out & and they haul a small car instead? It seems my husband is more interested in LQ if he can take a trip without horses sometimes. My priority is the horses safety, of course. Thanks <img src=HTTP://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif border=0> Any trailer that can handle drafts can handle a Smartcar ___ Length 106.1 inches (8.8 feet) ____ Width 61.38 inches (5.1 feet)____ Height 60.71 inches (5.1 feet) ____ Weight (without driver) 1,808 lbs ____ However the ramp could be a different story...
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Location: Watertown, TN | Ours is 3-horse LQ. We can fold up the rear tack, Pull the dividers and put a Ranger side by side in it. Leave the dividers in and put 3 Harleys in it. Never tried a car though. Seems kind of redundant if you have the truck. |
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Location: Minnesota | My apologies, in my haste, I was not clear about my question; I will try to explain the redundancy. Several times a year, I attend horsemanship clinics and head South for a few weeks in the Winter, plus horse camping with girlfriends. My husband enjoys riding horses, but doesn't have the 'disease' like I do, and we usually go on trail rides in parks around home. Last month was his first camping trip. Camping in my 2H straight-load GN has been fun, but I'm ready for a 3H LQ. My husband has had a motorcycle for years, which is a great stress reliever for him. We are starting to work on our bucket list and this summer we bought a little 2 seater convertible sports car. He loves it almost as much as his motorcycle (a lot of fun on curvy roads, like a cycle). It has us taking little day trips on scenic highways. While I dream of seeing the country on horseback, he dreams of seeing it in a convertible. Which brings me to searching for a compromise. Is there such a thing as a LQ where we could bring the convertible and 'take in' the local culture. It got me thinking, maybe there would be a way we could trade off; mostly for horses and once in a while 'camp' with the convertible? I realize this sounds crazy, but we prefer nature and campfires over hotels, what can I say? Imagine if you will; going to the Black Hills, camping in a LQ trailer and instead of heading out on the trails with horses, take a drive in a convertible instead. Thanks in advance for your input!  |
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Location: Watertown, TN | Originally written by Horselover2 on 2013-10-17 1:30 PM My apologies, in my haste, I was not clear about my question; I will try to explain the redundancy. Several times a year, I attend horsemanship clinics and head South for a few weeks in the Winter, plus horse camping with girlfriends. My husband enjoys riding horses, but doesn't have the 'disease' like I do, and we usually go on trail rides in parks around home. Last month was his first camping trip. Camping in my 2H straight-load GN has been fun, but I'm ready for a 3H LQ. My husband has had a motorcycle for years, which is a great stress reliever for him. We are starting to work on our bucket list and this summer we bought a little 2 seater convertible sports car. He loves it almost as much as his motorcycle (a lot of fun on curvy roads, like a cycle ). It has us taking little day trips on scenic highways. While I dream of seeing the country on horseback, he dreams of seeing it in a convertible. Which brings me to searching for a compromise. Is there such a thing as a LQ where we could bring the convertible and 'take in' the local culture. It got me thinking, maybe there would be a way we could trade off; mostly for horses and once in a while 'camp' with the convertible? I realize this sounds crazy, but we prefer nature and campfires over hotels, what can I say? Imagine if you will; going to the Black Hills, camping in a LQ trailer and instead of heading out on the trails with horses, take a drive in a convertible instead. Thanks in advance for your input! |
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Location: Watertown, TN | And if you want to get REALLY crazy, one of you could get a CDL with a tandem endorsement. Put the horses in the LQ trailer and haul the car on a second trailer behind the horses. Just alwys park in BIG parking lots. |
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Location: Minnesota | Not sure what a Ranger is...LOL a small truck? Our Z4 is similar in size to a Miata. I just measured it. 6' wide by 13' long. Don't know the weight - would have to look it up. So, if the car won't go between the wheel wells of an 8' trailer, then a false floor would need to be built. Maybe we could design something in aluminum and have it welded up in the shop... **yikes! I see smoke rising from my ears** We have the metal ramps to load our ATV's but I don't trust them, or a horse ramp, for loading a car. Thanks for the input. CDL....Hmmmm.....good idea! |
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Location: Watertown, TN | Not exactly like ours. This one is much cleaner!Well, that didn't work.
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Location: Minnesota | Ohhhh, so that's a Ranger! Looks like a whole lot of FUN! |
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Location: suffolk | that will work...when we go to the mountains with our kiefer built 2+1 gooseneck trailer that has also a side ramp, we take our horses and we park our 4wheeler in the +1 storage area.
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Location: Watertown, TN | Oh, it's a blast! My wife and I both have "the disease" though. In fact when I was first trying to pick her up I was striking out till I said something about having to reset my horses on Saturday. She said "Oh, you shoe horses?" And the rest is history. The Ranger stays home most of the time. |
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Location: Lockport, Illinois | Things to consider, those dividers are heavy. You will have to get a 4 horse trailer to get a 13' car in, the normal stall width is 40". And the width between the wheel wells is another matter, will you be able to get out of the door, because your door is next to the wheel well. Even though during construction it measures 72", after they put the 1" rubber matting on, it becomes 70". |
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Location: western PA | If your car is a Miata or similarly sized, you will need a box length of about 15', (the car is 14' long) and an interior width of just under 6 feet, (the car is 5 1/2' wide). The Miata weighs a ton and change depending upon the model, well less than the four horses it replaces. Structurally, most any horse trailer can handle the weight. A Polaris Ranger weighs about 1200#, or almost half the car's weight. Weight wise, the trailer could easily handle two or three. We had a 3H BP stock/combo that had an 18' box and was ~7' wide . At various times, we've transported our compact tractor that weighs ~2800#, a Kubota RTV that weighs about ~2000# and our Triumph TR3 that weighs about ~ 2200#. Our trailer was ordered with the 5K axles and had no problem with any of those loads. Your wishes are very doable. It would be easier if the trailer you secure has a one piece tailgate or a two piece with no center post. This will make an easier time loading your equipment. Heavy duty temporary ramps are sold by many manufacturers of flat bed trailers. They can easily be modified to fit the rear of a horse trailer. There are also ramps used by commercial landscapers that can support more than a ton of weight. Like others, I would not consider using the OEM ramp supplied by the trailer manufacturer. If you could find a stock/combo unit with a LQ, you would have a very versatile trailer, that could provide you both with what you want/need. |
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Location: santa clara, ca | you also have to consider the approach and departure angle of the car: the angle of the ramp might be more than what a normal car can tolerate (hence full door ramps on car haulers) |
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Location: Ohio | One other thing to consider is that most 8ft wide trailers come with mangers. That considerably reduces the usable width for you. We had ours built and did not have the mangers in. The only other thing to consider is the wheel well indentations that also reduce the interior width. Weight wise you would be fine for interior but the ramp is a lim fact. Our ramp states how much weight it will hold and it is not enough to hold a car so you would have to get one without a ramp and use maybe maintenance ramps to get it in. |
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Location: Rayne, LA | Someone mentioned CDL. That is NOT necessary if all vehicles are personal and you are not hauling for any type of profit. If the entire rig is recreational a CDL is NOT required. I drive a Peterbilt pulling a 40 ft LQ trailer and sometimes pull a 16 ft trailer behind. Before doing this a spoke to several police in two different states and got the same answer from both. No officer would give any trouble unless I got in an accident and the length is the problem, such as not completely crossing train tracks or something similar. |
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Location: AZ | Here in AZ, if you are hauling a GN or 5th wheel trailer, you can add another trailer to the back of the GN/5th wheel. No extra endoresments needed. Check your local state laws regarding that. If you can, get one of those UHaul car caddy's for the hubby car and haul it that way.
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Location: Watertown, TN | Originally written by cajunmuleman on 2013-10-18 7:03 AM Someone mentioned CDL. That is NOT necessary if all vehicles are personal and you are not hauling for any type of profit. If the entire rig is recreational a CDL is NOT required. I drive a Peterbilt pulling a 40 ft LQ trailer and sometimes pull a 16 ft trailer behind. Before doing this a spoke to several police in two different states and got the same answer from both. No officer would give any trouble unless I got in an accident and the length is the problem, such as not completely crossing train tracks or something similar. |
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Location: Watertown, TN | In TN(d) Motor vehicles consisting of a truck-tractor and twin trailer combination shall be permitted to operate on the interstate system and other federal-aid highways designated by the commissioner of transportation; provided, that neither of the towed vehicles shall exceed twenty-eight feet six inches (28¢ 6²) in length |
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Location: Rayne, LA | My understanding is that the laws of your home state are what you go by. Is this what everyone also understands? |
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Location: Watertown, TN | I think we're getting a little off topic but as a general rule I think you're right. For instance; in TN, I'm not required to have a license plate on my stock trailer. However if I go to KY with it, I may have to spend a lot of time explaining that to the KYHP. So, it's easier to just buy the plate and be done with it. The same can probably be said for a lot of things. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by cajunmuleman on 2013-10-18 9:56 AM
My understanding is that the laws of your home state are what you go by. Is this what everyone also understands? Well...there was a thread here a couple of years ago of a woman who was stopped traveling thru Iowa and cited for NOT having a CDL, etc...there were alot of tickets given her and even if she won, there were court costs and the inconvenience of fighting a traffic citation in another state...:( If you have a vehicle that might needa CDL, it is cheap insurance to go ahead and get one...cuts down on the hassle factor...:)
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Location: Vermont | here is that iowa story... http://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/printer-friendly.asp?threadid=77... |
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Location: Florida | Originally written by PaulChristenson on 2013-10-18 12:14 AM
here is that iowa story... http://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/printer-friendly.asp?threadid=77...
Just my 2 cents on that... You can not be sighted for US DOT regulations, if you are "not" USDOT certified (driver's log book, inspection report, fire extinguisher, DOT #s and so on ). IMHO, 3/4 or 2/3 of those tickets should have been throw out right from the start.
The other tickets on weight class/not being DOT/CDL... Just because the "trailer" weight rating put her over the 26,001 when connected to her truck doesn't matter, its the truck's weight class and if that combo goes into a state weigh station and comes out to 25,999 she is ok not to have a CDL... BUT, yes ALL truck/trailer combos (well ok we have the RV exempt that don't need the numbers ) have to be USDOT when over 10,001... 2 USDOT classes are for the little guy (me for example ), 1, "Pvt not for hire" and 2,"Exempt for hire"... IMHO that is the "only" ticket she should have received, not having a US DOT #.
I use "Exempt for hire" with this combo to transport horses for pay... 06 F350 (23,500lb rated ) and a 6 horse head to head trailer (16,000 rated )... I have driven many states, DOT stations, Ag stations and not once have I had any problem. Maybe because... I have 1 of many rules, I will not travel west of the Mississippi. Some how the rules change from legal the farther west and it would be MY job to correct the officers of their mistaking of those laws, no thanks.
A bit off subject of this thread? Maybe, because the combo talked about here, will need to be usdot numbered, UNLESS wanting to take the RV (LQ ) of the trailer into the subject... But there you go, what trooper is going to say "ok no DOT needed" and what trooper is going say "yes you do need DOT#" Edited by MrSteve 2013-10-23 7:44 AM
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Is it possible to have a trailer with LQ to haul Horses OR small car?
