Posted 2005-02-17 10:19 AM (#20821 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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Glue ons are ok if absoultely necessary but they do tend to destroy the hoof wall so it's not really a good thing for thin walled horses. Why are you considering them?
Posted 2005-02-17 12:30 PM (#20840 - in reply to #20821) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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I typicaly don't shoe my horse. Don't need to. But I got a new one that might need shoes. I had a blacksmith that every time he trimmed, my horses turned up lame. So I learned to trim myself and do well with it. My wife refuses to let me nail shoes on any horse. When I heard of the glue on shoes, I was just wandering if anyone had experiance with them, good or bad.
Posted 2005-02-17 12:36 PM (#20842 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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I dont use the glue on shoes. I also had the same problem you have noted with farriers laming my horses. (I secretly think they do this on purpose so you will beleive them-that they NEED shoes-know what I mean?) anyway- you are a great canidate to use the Easy boots. To be successful with easy boots-a person needs to be able to keep the horses feet trimmed and tidy. also the horse needs to travel pretty straight. I have one horse who is sort of toed in and her foot twists apon landing-easy boots dont work for her , but they are great for the rest of mine! just a thought for you! I dont think I would be wanting to glue on the shoes because of the glue would most likely fail.
Posted 2005-02-17 2:47 PM (#20848 - in reply to #20840) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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Don't even attempt it if you are not a real farrier. Don't nail shoes on either because you can cripple a horse that way or cause a major infection. If I were you I would just find a good farrier. Yours is probably trimming too short or cutting away too much sole.
Posted 2005-02-17 2:56 PM (#20851 - in reply to #20824) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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The shoes have an edge with sort of flaps on them. The flaps are glued onto the wall of the hoof. Many times, if the shoes comes off, the wall comes off with it. That's why they are only for extreme circumstances.
Posted 2005-02-18 6:41 PM (#20904 - in reply to #20890) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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No. We have a horse that will require shoes. Her feet just wear faster than our other Arabians. And my wife will not let me nail shoes on. She'll let me trim but no shoes. So I figured if the glue on shoes was something up and coming that would work for me.
Posted 2005-02-18 7:41 PM (#20908 - in reply to #20904) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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I'd just find a good farrier and let him do the shoeing. Shoeing is like surgery in a way. Done right it is great, done wrong... There is really more to being a good farrier than meets the eye and if you can find a good one that balances them well and keeps them sound, they are worth every penny!
Posted 2005-02-23 12:34 PM (#21250 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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If you are trimming and doing a good job then I think that you should venture on into putting on the shoes. Remember that all farriers or horse shoers had to do their first horse. There are schools you can go to to learn. I have a good friend that started out like you and then started shoeine his own decided to take a couple of classes in Ga. and now he does it as a part time job for income. He is doing quiet well and is highly recomended by his customers and has more horses to do than he can hande as part time.
If you can learn to trim and are willing to learn to shoe go for it. For me I will continue to pay my friend to do it because its not for me.
Posted 2005-02-23 2:22 PM (#21261 - in reply to #21250) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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Horseshoeing is not somthing to experiment with! You have to either go to school or apprentice for a long time. There is so much more to shoeing than just slapping on a shoe. Done wrong, you could cripple a horse.
Posted 2005-02-23 10:55 PM (#21299 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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I had a TB mare who we tried the glue on shoes and I do NOT recommend them. First, only a knowledgeable farrier can put them on. And they charge ALOT to do this specialty shoeing job. They must be hammered and shaped to fit the foot PERFECTLY. Then, the horse must NEVER be let in a wet environment...no water crossing on the trail, no turn out in the rain, and keep them out of the wet, dewey grass in the morning. The glue does NOT stay glued if the feet get wet at all.
We tried them because her hoof walls were so thin it was hard for her to keep on regular shoes, but she was so tender footed, she would go lame if left barefoot (typical, terrible TB feet). Turned out the glue on shoes were one of the most expensive, least effective "gimmicks" we tried.
I now have a pair of Old Mac Boots and they are pretty good, like sneakers for the horse. Easy Boots are also very popular, and there are other horse boots out there that are also designed to be worn while riding, then you take them off when you're done, like horsey sneakers.
But don't use the glue on's. They are a waste of money, and you won't be able to put them on correctly anyway. You must have total shoeing knowledge to put them on properly. I'll bet if you do some research on the Old Mac's, Easy Boots, etc, you'll find something that will suit your needs much better.
Posted 2005-02-24 7:55 AM (#21306 - in reply to #20842) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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Originally written by ponytails on 2005-02-17 12:36 PM
I dont use the glue on shoes. I also had the same problem you have noted with farriers laming my horses. (I secretly think they do this on purpose so you will beleive them-that they NEED shoes-know what I mean?)
I really, REALLY hope in some wierd way you're being silly. Otherwise, I think your statement is outrageous- I have never encountered a farrier who would purposely lame a horse in order to convince a owner/client to shod the horse.
Posted 2005-03-12 12:34 AM (#22210 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
Location: Del Mar, CA
I totally agree with hav2ride, good shoers who go to the Farrier's Conferences and are willing to learn from more experienced shoers and vets are worth their weight in gold. Unfortunately for shoers, mediocre shoeing doesn't result in lameness for years sometimes, and by then the damage is done and even a good shoer can't undo it completely. I've learned soooo much from my shoer, he explains to me what he's doing and why and what's wrong with the way the hoof is growing...I know enough to know how much I don't know!
My shoer tried glue on shoes as a last resort on a laminitis horse I had yrs ago, he had a shoer come with him who was experienced in doing it and the shoes worked very well until winter. The tall wet grass in the pasture caused the shoes to come off. The hoof walls were too crumbly for nails, and without shoes he would abcess. In this situation, the glue ons gave my 11 yr old "buddy" an extra 9 mths of life so I was happy with them. k :))
Posted 2005-03-12 7:41 AM (#22214 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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I would not avese the glue on shoes even with an experienced farrier applying them. As others have said they do come off. AS far as some farriers do a slightly poor job ob purpose yes there are bad eggs out there who do this. However if you would like to shoe the horse yourself then please go to school for it first. At least then the first shoe you put on will not have the chance of crippling as it will not be on a real horse its on s tuffed foot as far as i know from friends who have done this. Anyways though i know how hard it is to find a good farrier. I have wnt through 4 in thelast year. The first one was about not gettin the feet quite level the second wanted to trim the feet too short causing tenderfeet and the third would hit my horse if it did so much as twitch at a fly so i sent him packing before he was able to even start. The fourth one i got was finally good atwhat he did. He trimmed and shoed my horse with no problem and no hittin or slappin my horse just because she was knockin a fly off. Anyways i got off the subject but Avoid the glue on shoes unlesss there is a medical reason for it and you have a professional do it. laters
Posted 2005-03-12 10:58 AM (#22225 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
Location: KY
I have used the Davis boots on front feet with success; they stayed on my gaited mare at speed. she had very thin shelly walls which eventually grew out so I could go back to nail ons. ditto about finding a good farrier. Check out the American Farriers Association at the KY Horse Park website...they should be able to give you some names in your area.
Posted 2005-04-09 11:46 PM (#23632 - in reply to #20807) Subject: RE: Glue on shoes
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farrieng school is only a month long if you really feel you need to learn. if your horses hoof isn't cracking or chipping to the point of ruining her hoof then i wouldnt shoe. their are many good farriers out there start asking around at the feeds stores or vets in the area. seen good horses having to be put down because someone thought they could do it. heck a couple old pros have done it. mistakes happen but not having training and trying it isnt smart. you dont want a first year med student performing surgery on yea would ya.
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