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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2008-04-23 7:00 AM (#82440)
Subject: Window bars



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My Exiss has drop down windows but no bars so that I can drop them down for more air flow. I was thinking about getting some 1/4-1/2 in stainless steel rod or even elec. conduit and flattening the ends and mounting them on the inside of the windows to the the main frame of the trailer with self tapping screws.. 3 in each window. I price the drop down bar attachemnt for the window and it was 130.00 ea window from exiss...Any pro or cons on this idea?
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-04-23 7:46 AM (#82443 - in reply to #82440)
Subject: RE: Window bars


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I guess the pros would be you save money putting conduit on there over the hinged drop down bars. The cons would be you can't open the bars if they are permanently screwed on the window. I would still want some kind of screen to keep bugs or rocks from hitting the horses face/eyes. I'd also be concerned about how secure individual bars would be as opposed to a welded frame. If a horse blew up and ripped one end of a bar off it could get ugly fast. Of course if you know your horse won't do that maybe that's not a big concern.
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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2008-04-23 10:03 AM (#82465 - in reply to #82443)
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I would use screens over the windows. My horses have a lot of trailer miles under thier belts so I don't fore see either one getting stupid back there... If I haul a strange horse I usually load them in my stock trailer that way if they want to freak out then they can.... LOL I only use my LQ for camping and it gets hot back there, so i was looking for a way to get more air flow. My butt windows don't drop down either, it has vents over head. I'm even thinking about adding 12v fans for each horse.... Thanks for your opinion.....
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-23 3:02 PM (#82503 - in reply to #82440)
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I would not want to use electrical conduit for trailer window bars. The material is very soft, has little strength, and could easily be dislodged by an errant horse. A broken end could easily cause serious injuries.

I went to a newly constructed stable of a friend of ours, who had used this material for stall fronts. It looked quite impressive in its pristine condition, and the owner was a little upset when I mentioned my concerns. A few days later, the first boarder was hurt by the bars. Within a month, most of the bars were bent, and shortly afterward they were replaced.

The fabric screens seem to be a very good product. They allow ventilation while providing good face protection. They are easy to install, and so far, durable. Our Exiss is now equipped with them. Depending on their long term durability, I may retrofit them into our other trailer and remove the flip down bars.

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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2008-04-24 6:00 AM (#82538 - in reply to #82440)
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Thanks for your input Gard your always so knowledgeable. The conduit was a suggestion from a friend I wanted to use stainless steel rods instead, I thought they would be strong enough. A friend did it on his Exiss and it has worked well. My horses are very good haulers and I don't haul strange horses in my LQ I use my stock for that. I have had the experience of fixing my trailer after some one elses horse went spazoid in it...Actually I just want a new trailer then I wouldn't have to deal with things like this....
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-24 8:40 AM (#82545 - in reply to #82440)
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Stainless materials are a very durable solution. Instead of rods, stainless tubing is available at salvage yards priced by the pound. The ends can be flattened more easily than solid stock. Do you think three are enough?

As Towfoo stated, the screens still have benefits that the bars can't provide. They are relatively inexpensive, easy to install and protect the horses' faces which bars can't.

Even with a solid screen, in an emergency, you could quickly cut it with a knife to reach a trailer tie and attend to your horse. With a zippered screen, you have access and protection.

The screens are new to me. My one trailer has nets and bars, my other, like your's, had nothing. So far I'm pleased with their installation, and I haven't had them yet ripped out by inquisitive noses.

Gard



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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2008-04-24 11:38 AM (#82560 - in reply to #82440)
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Where did you purchase your screens? I never thought that the screens would be durable enough to keep the horse from putting his nose through it. I was thinking 3 bars per window but I may go with four. I don't want to put alot of effort into this trailer as I'm trying to sell it to go bigger and self contained. But as long as I have it I want the horse comfy back there.....

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-24 3:59 PM (#82569 - in reply to #82440)
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My wife bought the "Professional's Choice" screens in Ohio. Having never used them, she bought the one piece without zippers. After installing them, we found them almost unusable while loading horses. My wife picked up some heavy duty YYK zippers, similar to our wet suits, and installed them. They work very well. I would only buy the screens with zippers.

There is another concurrent posting, where the screens are being sold.

If you are planning on selling your trailer, I would forgo the bars until you are first able to evaluate the screens. They may save you some unnecessary labour and parts costs.

Gard

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mingiz
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2008-04-27 6:47 AM (#82656 - in reply to #82440)
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Thanks Again Gard. I had a lady come look at it and is interested so I may hold of and just go get me a trailer that has what I want...Lol  I'll find out Monday....
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memory
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2008-04-27 5:06 PM (#82684 - in reply to #82440)
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Would fly masks on horse with bars on the windows be good enough or too dangerous from flying debris?
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-27 5:23 PM (#82686 - in reply to #82684)
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Originally written by memory on 2008-04-27 6:06 PM

Would fly masks on horse with bars on the windows be good enough or too dangerous from flying debris?

Since the ultimate goal is the protection of the horse's eyes, I would think that a fly mask would greatly help. I don't know which material, (the screen or the fly mask) would have the smallest weave and hence offer the greater protection. Actually, the fly mask would continually protect the horse from debris initiated outside and within the trailer, while the screen would only prevent material and bugs from entering into the trailer.

At 60 or 70 MPH, there is a lot of turbulence created inside the trailer with the windows open. Perhaps the ultimate protection would be a combination of the two.

Gard

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