Tx. and CRG mentioned something about the cost of diesel yesterday. How much is fuel in your area?? I-95 exit 138 in North Carolina, it"s...

Gasoline $3.12

Diesel $3.56

I checked my milage a couple weeks ago, pulling the 6 H2H with 5 horses and all the show tack, cart, water and etc. and got a whopping 7.6 mpg running between 68 and 70 mph on flat ground..... Cheverolet 8.1 gas, Allison auto, 4.10 gears. Going to be an expensive show season.

That's why I gave up doing Competitive Trail Riding.

I got tired of my gas credit card bill coming in a UPS box!

Ford F350 Powerstroke pulling a 4 horse 8' LQ thats weighs 16,000lbs loaded. I get around 12 mpg

I filled up yesterday at $3.39

You can check the current prices at any Flying J truck stop across the country at

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/gasoline_CF.cfm

 $3.19 gas,$3.59 a gal diesel in Western PA, usually 14 mpg regardless of which trailer.

How did your tire situation work out? Earlier you were concerned about the heat and durability of your new tires. Everything OK? Now that you have some miles under your belt, how do you like your new trailer? Great looking rig.

Gard

I'm on the Kansas/Missouri Line so I drive to Missouri for Diesel. Filled up yesterday - $98.00. OOOWWEEYY! Have a 2006 Ford 350 4-door DRW.
Kansas - $3.59
Missouri - $3.39

Prices have definately limited our riding vacation plans this year. Going to do more local area riding within 2-3 hours of our home.

There is one local station that is away from the interstate that still has diesel at $3.19.  All the others are $3.39 - $3.59.

We will camp and ride this year.  But we won't eat out as much and even dinners at home will done on the cheap.

RIDE ON!

Well, I hope you are sitting down, because T. Boone Pickens predicted $150 a barrel oil by the end of this year!!!! Oh, he is SHORTING Oil at the moment!!!

He predicted that oil would fall back about $15 a barrel in the short run and then if nothing changes in the US...the price of oil will go up to cover the depreciating value of the dollar and the worldwide demand, especially in China and India...

My first action was to get rid of the wife's GMC Jimmy and replace it with a Honda Civic Hybrid while they were on sale and had 2.9% financing...

I heard this last night on NBC news.  Gas expected to be at $4.50 this summer.  That will probably put diesel over $5.  I expect we'll have to sell the big truck and trailer.  But how will that affect the "big truck", "big trailer" market??  Who's gonna want to buy them if you can't afford to drive/haul them??

Really sucks !

If the trailer prices drop enough I'd buy one for those few ocassions we'd use it.  I'm considering harness breaking all of my horses so I can use that to drive the kids to school.  I don't know how the city will like it, but I really don't care. 

5 miles to one school, then 2 miles to the other and 6 miles home.  How long would that take?  Take 2 horses switch them at the second school, each pair works every other day......  Maybe my husband would quit complaining about how much it cost for hay.

 my husband has always driven a truck (at least for the 25 years i have known him.)  he recently got one of those small VW jettas (a diesel) for running around. we were all holding our sides from laughing so much when we first saw him in that tiny car, but after he told us he gets about 40 to 45 mpg on the freeway, we quit laughing.  now the rest of the family borrows his car whenever possible.  (it took a while to get used to driving I10, a daily occurrence, driving next to an 18 wheeler.)  he still has his truck for when he needs it but rarely drives it now.

does anyone think that trailer prices really will go down because of the high fuel prices??  i was getting close to ordering a LQ trailer in the next month but if prices are going to drop because of high fuel prices, i will gladly wait.

"does anyone think that trailer prices really will go down because of the high fuel prices??"

  Hasn't made any difference up to this point. We all keep buying high priced fuel, and there will always be a plentiful supply high priced trailers to pick from. It takes alot of fuel to build that trailer!

What can you pull with a Geo?

Gard

I really doubt you will see new trailer prices go down.  I just got a letter from my steel supplier saying steel was jumping up in price 15% on March 1st.

Anything heavy that requires trucking in going up in cost as fuel prices continue to go up. So I expect other metals to also go up. (steel is not an isolated metal)

Used trailer prices my drop as people have a harder time selling them. But don't expect new trailer prices to drop. Raw materials are not getting cheaper.

Joliet, Illinois 

Has anyone else heard of the major oil companies buying up the corn and dumping it in fields to rot, just so they can keep the bio fuel production to a minimum.  Was a rumor I heard just trying to find out if there is any fact to it.

I paid 3.49 two days ago for diesel.  Saw a store here in nc today that had it at 3.69

Do you think that if diesel hits $5.00 truckers will go on strike or something?  How far do you think people will let it go? If diesel goes that high, it will have serious ripples throughout our whole economy.  Do you know how much more expensive EVERYTHING will be? From tomatoes to t-shirts it all get shipped by truck.   When do you think people will quit grumbling and paying, and start shouting and not buying? 

Amanda

On the news last night were predictions of gas prices at $4 by summer. Of course diesel will be higher

Gard

In 1931, when some roads were little more than cow paths and the interstates weren't even considered, Cummings, the builder of a diesel engine of his own name, drove coast to coast.

He did so to prove the reliability of his product, and to promote trucking as an alternative to the rail lines.

His cost of diesel fuel to make the whole trip? $11.30

Gard

And, some more old Cummins fuel usage news..

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/motorsports/sport_when_cummins_diesels_assaulted_indy_feature

 http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/photos/gallery.php?series_id=1&event_id=133&eventDate=1952-01-01

Decatur TX.  At the cheep gas place.

Reg. 2.99

Diesel 3.55

I herd last weekend diesel was so high because of the supply and demand thing. They are maxed out on how much they can produce.

Well, there was a refinery fire...BUT THE REAL PROBLEM is the falling dollar!!!

Since world oil is linked to dollars...every time our dollar decreases in value...the price of oil goes up and up...

Oh and the FED is going to cut the interest rate AGAIN in MARCH...which will help drive UP OIL PRICES...

Plan on $4.00+/gallon gasoline by Memorial Day...and Diesel will be higher than that...

This is why I HAD to purchase an older truck to pull my trailer.  I drive around 400 miles a week and can barely afford to put gas in my VW Beetle(that cost $39.50 to fill up last night and will last me around a week), which averages in the lower 30s for gas mileage and that includes the hours of sitting in traffic idling.  No way could I afford to fuel a truck.  I just recently purchased a used truck and trailer.  Some people were scoffing at the fact that I had to buy a '95 to afford it, but that's all I could manage for a truck that is going to spend most of its time in my driveway(taking up MOST of the driveway, by the way), because I can't afford to drive it.  Anyway, I think I got a pretty nice one.  It is 13 years old, but only had 107,000 miles on it and my husband just drove it nearly 1000(more miles than had been put on it in the entire 2 1/2 months I have had it, including the 300 mile trip to bring it home from NJ) miles pulling a car on a trailer in one day and it did fine.

Just thinbk what THIS is going to do to the price of hay and feed!

PURINA's FEED PRICES at the supply center just went UP!!!

Just thinbk what THIS is going to do to the price of hay and feed!

I hadn't thought of that, I better go stock up before the feed prices go up again.  I filled my truck last Friday ($96) and yesterday I still had a bit under half a tank and it took another $80.

Like Terri comments,  They are already talking about hay being over $200 a ton.

When you have to pay $4.50 a gallon for fuel (which is what I'm seeing forcast for fuel this summer), All foodstuffs will have to increase to reflect the cost.

Sadly this moring 4.19 in Acton California and we expect it to see high 4's before long

I just paid $3.83 a gallon for diesel - cost $75.00 for 19.5 gallons (1/2 tank), 2 weeks ago I paid $3.53... I just might have to dust off my bicyle at this rate.

I paid $3.89/gallon for diesel in Louisville, KY on Sunday. Sure makes it expensive to get home from a show where you won no $$$$$! Haven't seen it over $4 yet, but it can't be far away.

Almost forgot about the truck stop south of Cincinnati last Tuesday that wasn't even posting the price at the pump. They were raising it so fast, that the clerk would tell you at the fuel desk what the current price was. Doesn't look good for any of us road warriors.

You might check out www.dieselsecrets.com Make sure to go through the site completly and research it.  We are getting ready to start our first tank of it and see how it goes.  You can't argue with .47 to .50 cents a gallon.  It's extra work but worth it.  I had a customer who got us to start using the product.  Him and his brother have been using it for several years now and love it.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226407&highlight=dieselsecret

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152223&highlight=dieselsecret

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132662&highlight=dieselsecret

There are more...

Join and read the rest for yourself...

Well if you were.............. the prices of horses today would not get you much of a motorcycle.

Here in Vermont we're still under $4 for premium gas and diesel, but just barely.  I'm pulling a 3H, 8ft LQ with a 3/4 ton GMC gas engine, getting between 10 and 11 mpg.  Show season starts in April, all the shows are in other states, so it will be an expensive season.  Our trainer is 3 hours away (lessons are getting fewer and further between!)  Don't know how many shows we will get to this year.  I don't know about anyone else, but I get really angry every time I read about the oil company profits.  They're really raining on our horse parade...       

Oil prices are much more complicated than you state...

Because World Oil Prices are in U.S.Dollars...every time the Dollar falls in value the price of oil will go up accordingly...There is a relative number that has been bandied about by T. Boone Pickens and other oil experts as 85 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY as MAXIMUM OUTPUT in the world...since the world demand is approaching or exceeding capacity...PRICES WILL RISE...At this point, China and India are increasing their oil demands which is another piece in the price increase puzzle...The other problem is speculation caused by the fact that much of the world's oil production is in some of the most UNSTABLE regions of the world...Nigeria has had interruptions in oil production which helps the speculators believe in $150/bbl price range... 

In fact, there have been several groups floating a $200/bbl price by the end of the year...

Well, rather than complete a treatise on current oil pricing structures here...I'll say good night...

Don't you guys know about the oil price lever in the Oval office?  All Bush (or next President) has to do is pull/push it to make the world wide price go up or down.  It's under the desk.  Monica accidently pushed it in 1996...we had a slight price bump then

It's not the oil refineries that driving the price up right now. It's as Paul stated. It's the value of the dollar and traders.  There is a demand of about 15 million barrels a day, The traders are trading over 150 million barrels a day this past few weeks. That mean each barrel of oil is getting sold and resold multiple times each day. Each time at a higher price.  As the dollar continues to slide, the traders buy and sell in currancies that are stronger. And the price of oil continues to increase.

Add to that the fact that we are exporting diesel fuel. Most foreign countries use more diesel than they do gasoline (especially the evolving countries like china and India). The demand for diesel is higher world wide and drives the price of diesel up here at home.

It's not a whole lot different that what happened to the home loan business a year or two ago. Loans got sold and resold. Pretty soon the become over valued and bottom fell out.  The big shots in the mortgage business took their hundreds of millions in in profit and let the average guy loose his $50,000 per house.

Hi Retento, its realy a mazda built in thailand!! seem to be sold in most markets except the US, we get a choice of reg cab, super cab or crewcab. 2 or 4 wheeldrive 2.5 liter 16valve common rail turbo diesel 145 hp with 5 speed also can get 3 liter version with opt 5 speed auto trans I have a supercab with 2.5,  4x4 its very peppy and will cruise efortlessly at 75 mph,    

 its also rated to tow 3000kg,  and or carry 1000 kg.. I would guess if you guys pester ford enough they might offer it over there, ford sell diesel versions of  there cars over here  fiesta, focus,mondeo etc as do most manufactures.

have a great day...

Good Day to All.  HTWOK here is another web site for your pleasure www.fossilfreefuel.com.   I read all their information and I have talked to them.  They will convert your diesel for you and have classes on how to do everything yourself.  They were very nice to me and told me what time and day their classes were.  I do not have a diesel truck or car.  So my next truck will be a old diesel truck to convert to this way of driving.  I have to do something since I need to keep driving.  My family is looking at electric cars for work.  Sorry about going off the subject.  Gas here is now $3.200 - $3.35 and up.  Diesel is about $4.18 and up.