Own Animals? Heard of NAIS?
PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-12-08 7:30 AM (#72640)
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This location will tell you why you need to contact your Congressman...

The website is rather unusual in it layout so takes a little effort to read and navigate on...

http://nonais.org/

 

This is the official Government site...

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-12-08 10:11 AM (#72644 - in reply to #72640)
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Also the site www.libertyark.net has a great deal of information.This is the grass roots organization that was formed when NAIDS was first in the makings.

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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-12-08 10:01 PM (#72666 - in reply to #72640)
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Basically it is empty legislation;  it is not fully funded and my guess is that it never will be.....just do not register your farm voluntarily.....and like I am gonna call some fed every time I ride a horse off my place....oh yeah.....
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-12-09 10:14 AM (#72675 - in reply to #72666)
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Well,Rose,that is EXACTLY what the NAIDS proposed as part of their little parcel they were about to dupe the American public/taxpayers with,and saddle American farmers and producers with.

That you notify some unseen Big Brother monitor with a phone call every time you take your animals off of your premises.Thus one reason for the microchips.What next,send helicopters over remote areas where people have been known to ride horses,track the horses,then call in to see if it was reported???

I WOULD NOT DOUBT IT FOR A MINUTE.

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-12-09 10:16 AM (#72676 - in reply to #72675)
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And in the beginning,(and it's not fully over with yet,so don't get caught sleeping) they were going to make it MANDATORY that you register your premises and obtain a farm number,and microchip your animals.There would have been no "voluntary" to it.
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Reg. May 2005
Posted 2007-12-09 1:21 PM (#72680 - in reply to #72640)
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I think it's a crock of s***.
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-12-09 5:46 PM (#72689 - in reply to #72680)
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What is,the CONCEPT of it,or,that our government would dream of imposing such a law??
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Posted 2007-12-09 5:52 PM (#72690 - in reply to #72640)
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It is not only a crock of s***, it is a whole ocean of horsecrap!!! I know that it is some cityfied suit that never gets out of town(we hope) that cooked this junk up!! A friend who lives just outside Kansas City, Missouri,  had a woman show up at his place asking about his horses and representing herself as a federal employee assigned to take inventory there... she was asked to leave and told to get a warrant if she wanted anything there. I don't think there are any "teeth" in this proposed legislation, but we really do need to pay attention. If we had to inventory horses and notify each time we left home we could not show/rodeo/or trailride ever again...fat chance while I'm still breathing.

 

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-12-09 8:39 PM (#72693 - in reply to #72690)
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Jane,you're right.And that's why libertyark.net came into being when all of this first was in the makings by the USDA.

it is  a crock of s---,but,it's most definately not a make-believe story that someone just sat around and cooked up to get a hoax started.I have a good friend whose husband is a Federal meat inspector for the USDA.I asked them point blank if they had heard anything about this.The husband was silent,then,avoiding my eyes,said something about "well,just in passing." And would not comment further.

A year later,SHE told me that he had indeed heard of it,had been in meetings about it,briefings that the USDA was holding and talking of how to go about implementing the NAIDS.They knew what an uproar it would create,so,they wanted to try to go about it in the most silent (sneakiest) way possible so's not to attract a whole lot of attention to it,until it was too late for citizens to do anything about it.

This has a whole lot of support from people that might surprise you.Many of the large equine organizations,including the American Horse Council,are in favor of NSIDS for horses.Go to www.libertyark.net and there find a great deal of useful information and what an individual can do to voice his/her opinion.I have contacted my state government officials and let them know my feelings,you can be sure.

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-12-09 9:15 PM (#72694 - in reply to #72640)
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Originally written by PaulChristenson on 2007-12-08 7:30 AM

This location will tell you why you need to contact your Congressman...

The website is rather unusual in it layout so takes a little effort to read and navigate on...

http://nonais.org/

 Paul,this is a GREAT website.Thanks for the information.Not just for livestock owners,but for farmers,too,which we are.I was interested in the "Public Servant's Questionaire" that they mentioned under the Tech documents on the right hand margin of the page.They recommend that anyone make a person coming on their property asking questions about business,livestock,ect.fill out this form.Good idea! it seems  to operate on intimidation and ignorance of people,anyway,so,this would give them a taste of it.

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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-12-09 11:06 PM (#72695 - in reply to #72640)
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CRG  I know the feds would like us to call and get permission to go to the bathroom......this has been around for a while and some people have been duped into registering their farms.....I am not going to do it voluntarily....nor am I going to microchip a $50 goat.....Some have suggested that this is really a plot to put small beef producers out of business.....don't think Tyson is going to microchip each chicken......if the feds get really pissy about it, I will tie the pony that dumped me 2x today to the federal courthouse door and they can microchip the beast.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-12-10 1:09 AM (#72697 - in reply to #72689)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2007-12-09 5:46 PM

What is,the CONCEPT of it,or,that our government would dream of imposing such a law??

If I answer that...this thread will be closed...

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Frankie001%
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2007-12-10 7:30 AM (#72699 - in reply to #72640)
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I do not know much about NAIS but I do work for the federal government.  When I was in the Army it was the swine flue shot (just gave it to you to see the effect before it went public that was the way I looked at it).  Just like our president, the rest of the government wants to do wants it wants and the people will just take.  I seen this in the last two elections.  I still think it is time that people stand up and actually talk to their representative.  The lobbyist have lots of clout and also pushing this issue.  It is not Tyson, or the other big companies-they would lose lots of money and then have to raise their prices.  It is the companies that are producing these tags-they have lots of money to gain.  Also the congressman and senators want money for their district(s) will be looking at this.  The truth be told should not be here but where my congressman and senator is.  I will be writing them again and again until they either get tired of me or will listen.  Please forgive my soapbox message.    
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Hank
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2007-12-10 8:46 AM (#72706 - in reply to #72640)
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I am personally against ANYTHING the gov't does to restrict my freedoms and lifestyles.  However, in WI, Farm Premise ID is required.

The Wisconsin Livestock Premises Registration Act requires anyone who keeps, houses, or co-mingles livestock to register their premises.  Premises that are not currently licensed by the DATCP are required to register by January 1, 2006. Those premises currently licensed by the Department must register by their annual license renewal date.

 

And I grudgingly do it.  In addition, if you want to enter anything in the local county fair, you MUST provide a premise ID number.  With Wifey being on the 4H council and our horses being volunteered for the Horseless Horse project, I had no choice but to get my premise ID. 

Here's some fun reading: http://www.wiid.org/resource/1145366259_FAQ%20Prem%20Reg%20%20NOV%20FINAL.pdf

Read the last two paragraphs.  I'm gritting my teeth.

 

 

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-12-10 9:20 AM (#72709 - in reply to #72706)
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Oh,yeah.Wisconsin was one of the first states to cram this down its' resident's unwitting throats.

The website Paul provided is excellent in that it also points out things of this nature that are being done to American farmers in general,such as by King Monsanto.Because of their dictates,farming and farmers in general as the keepers of farming are no longer able to save seed,a time honored and very effective practice.Another first step in the "state" controlling food production.

I think that was done for many years in a region known as the USSR??

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-12-10 9:23 AM (#72710 - in reply to #72699)
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Originally written by Frankie001% on 2007-12-10 7:30 AM

I do not know much about NAIS but I do work for the federal government.  When I was in the Army it was the swine flue shot (just gave it to you to see the effect before it went public that was the way I looked at it).   

Kind of like the testing of armed services personnel with the smallpox vaccine."OOOPS,that can KILL some folks,Gee Whiz!!!"

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Frankie001%
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Posted 2007-12-10 9:33 AM (#72712 - in reply to #72640)
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Hank thanks for the infor.  Burned my bisquet on the third paragraph to the last-fines/fees.  I think I will be putting my animals close to a person who works for the NAIS, buy them a spy glass and they can watch anytime they want.  Work at home program.  LOL
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Posted 2007-12-10 10:14 AM (#72713 - in reply to #72712)
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From what I've seen of a lot of them,they don't strain themselves anyway.

Nothing personal against you or your job,hope no offense taken.



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Frankie001%
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Posted 2007-12-10 11:01 AM (#72718 - in reply to #72640)
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If you mean me don't worry.  My family thinks the same thing.  I just sit around and
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Posted 2007-12-10 11:22 AM (#72720 - in reply to #72710)
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Also like the testing the US Army did on it's own soldiers with the atomic bomb in mock battlefield conditions.  "how did we know that it would cause cancer?"
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Posted 2007-12-10 12:20 PM (#72724 - in reply to #72720)
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Posted 2007-12-10 12:42 PM (#72726 - in reply to #72640)
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Going back NAIS.  People need a job,paycheck, a home.  If you were to talk to the people that have to do that job they might want to quit but what job would they have? This is not the USSR yet.  Most government workers don't have a voice, the rules just come up through the ranks.  Just like me, I work for the government.  Do I like everything, or support everything the government says "No."  Can I change things, I try my best to-sometimes it works-sometimes it doesn't.  Go ahead bash Department(s) but remember they do many things to keep us healthy and safe.  If it's wrong, yell consistently at them (not just one time but many).  If you do not want NAIS keep writing and yelling-your voices will be heard sooner/later.  The squeeky wheel effect.  Gosh!  I keep writing long messages, sorry!
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Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2007-12-10 1:55 PM (#72727 - in reply to #72640)
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In a perfect world we could eliminate 50% of the government, and pay the other 50% to sit on thier hands so they wouldn't cost me anything.

The government is there to protect me(strong military). And to serve me(roads, infrastructure). They cannot protect us from ourselves. They cannot provide us with everything to sustain ourselves.

You are guarenteed the pursuit of happieness, not happieness.

We have at least 500% to much government involvement in our lives.

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-12-10 10:42 PM (#72750 - in reply to #72726)
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I have no problem nor take any issue with the government workers or those who work for agencies that have to try to enforce some of the silliness that has been legislated.

What I DO take issue with is: the USDA itself cooking up such a blatant invasion of privacy and huge appropriation of taxpayer's money for such a stupid idea.

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Posted 2007-12-11 4:00 AM (#72761 - in reply to #72750)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2007-12-10 10:42 PM

I have no problem nor take any issue with the government workers or those who work for agencies that have to try to enforce some of the silliness that has been legislated.

What I DO take issue with is: the USDA itself cooking up such a blatant invasion of privacy and huge appropriation of taxpayer's money for such a stupid idea.

 

Well to put it in historical perspective...this originated as an answer to the MAD COW scare...It just was extended to an absurd extreme...

 

Gee...if we can track cows....why not track EVERYTHING!!!

 



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Posted 2007-12-11 5:39 AM (#72764 - in reply to #72750)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2007-12-10 10:42 PM

I have no problem nor take any issue with the government workers or those who work for agencies that have to try to enforce some of the silliness that has been legislated.

What I DO take issue with is: the USDA itself cooking up such a blatant invasion of privacy and huge appropriation of taxpayer's money for such a stupid idea.

 

 

 

To your first point, wouldn't it make more sense to eliminate the silliness. Witch would eliminate the need to enforce the silliness, resulting in a smaller government.

To your second point if we don't create it, we don't have to eliminate it.

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Posted 2007-12-11 7:35 AM (#72766 - in reply to #72764)
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I'm not the one arguing these points,these are just my thoughts/feelings and responses to those who are.I'm in 100% agreement about preventing it,but,in a lot of states it's already been passed.
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Posted 2007-12-11 7:37 AM (#72767 - in reply to #72761)
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Originally written by PaulChristenson on 2007-12-11 4:00 AM

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Well to put it in historical perspective...this originated as an answer to the MAD COW scare...It just was extended to an absurd extreme...

 

Gee...if we can track cows....why not track EVERYTHING!!!

 

Well give it long enough and it will come to that.Ever hear of "666"?

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Posted 2007-12-11 8:54 PM (#72793 - in reply to #72640)
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Interesting situation;  the feds say we must register our horses in order to protect the food supply chain.....but hey, no slaughtering horses for food....typical fed logic.......
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Posted 2007-12-12 8:35 AM (#72819 - in reply to #72640)
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The Feds need to be micro-chipping all of the illegals in this country to be able to track them.
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Posted 2007-12-12 10:04 AM (#72825 - in reply to #72819)
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Originally written by Longrider on 2007-12-12 8:35 AM

The Feds need to be micro-chipping all of the illegals in this country to be able to track them.

Or give each one a cow. 

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Posted 2007-12-12 11:37 AM (#72830 - in reply to #72640)
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NO- give each one a horse and it will solve two problems. Overpopulation of unwanted horses and track the illegals at the same time. Great idea, Hank.
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Posted 2007-12-12 1:12 PM (#72843 - in reply to #72640)
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I agree with Hank and Longrier.  Both have great ideas. 
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Posted 2007-12-13 7:34 AM (#72888 - in reply to #72640)
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Posted 2007-12-18 12:56 PM (#73100 - in reply to #72640)
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An article in (GCN) Government Computer News named "Legislation of the future" states California governer Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill forbidden business to forcibly implant employees with radio frequency identification chips.  Other states are Wisconsin, North Dakota and Ohio have signed a simular bill.  Test showed that malignant tumors have developed in laboratory animals.  RFID is not good - but NAIS is not good either.  Maybe we can look at both issues and find a common fighting ground.  VeriChip's Web site, www.verichipcorp.com.  If I'm wrong! I know your'll let me know.   
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Posted 2007-12-18 2:55 PM (#73102 - in reply to #73100)
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Originally written by Frankie001% on 2007-12-18 12:56 PM

Maybe we can look at both issues and find a common fighting ground.  VeriChip's Web site, http://www.verichipcorp.com/.  If I'm wrong! I know your'll let me know.   

I'm confused.  Do you support microchipping?  It's too Orwellian for me...Whether or not there is a safe(r) method, it still is infriging on your rights, freedoms, and liberties as a citizen of this country, 'specially if this is mandated by old Uncle Sam.  Hey, if you want to voluntarily register, microchip, and record all of your creatures (humans included), and notify some unnecessary division of the gov't every time you transport your creature, more power to ya. 

"Papers!  Show me your Papers!"

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Posted 2007-12-18 5:57 PM (#73109 - in reply to #72640)
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Posted 2007-12-18 6:45 PM (#73111 - in reply to #73109)
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Yes,"comrads" that is exactly right,what Hank is saying.

I'm not in favor of microchipping ANYTHING,myself,or my animals,and reporting to some unseen government agent that has found another way to funnel $$ out of American taxpayers' pockets unnecessarily.Especially when it comes to horses that I'm just keeping in my pasture and trail riding once in a while.For crying out loud!!!! I have a COggins test drawn on them,and they're not used for human consumption in this country anyway,so,what's the big deal?

Same thing going on with the "Right to Ride" bill on the Camp/Trail forum.Here's a bunch of folks,they are usually nature lovers like us,and they  don't ride horses,they ride bikes,or hike.Now they come and use the same trails that we're using,often only horse trails for YEARS before,and all of a sudden,they're trying to appropriate the trails as THEIRS with exclusive rights to them,and keep horseback riders off ..None of US are trying to keep them from biking or hiking,so,why should we cave in and let them shove us off with their "it's MINE" attitudes???

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Posted 2007-12-18 10:51 PM (#73131 - in reply to #73111)
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CROWLEYSRIDGEGIRL you are right I and my friends are having the same trouble he hikers,they saying that in the wet season horses should stay out of the state park??? what is the  wet season  Is this going to be like ice skating red flag no green flag yes
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Posted 2007-12-19 8:39 AM (#73139 - in reply to #73111)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2007-12-18 6:45 PM

Same thing going on with the "Right to Ride" bill on the Camp/Trail forum.Here's a bunch of folks,they are usually nature lovers like us,and they  don't ride horses,they ride bikes,or hike.Now they come and use the same trails that we're using,often only horse trails for YEARS before,and all of a sudden,they're trying to appropriate the trails as THEIRS with exclusive rights to them,and keep horseback riders off ..None of US are trying to keep them from biking or hiking,so,why should we cave in and let them shove us off with their "it's MINE" attitudes???

Don't even get me started on this topic.  Well, you can get me started, but let's not hijack this thread. 

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Posted 2007-12-19 10:18 AM (#73146 - in reply to #73139)
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Well,don't start,and no need to hijack a thread.Just go to the thread on camp/trail and do something about it.
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Posted 2007-12-20 6:02 PM (#73224 - in reply to #73102)
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Originally written by Hank on 2007-12-18 2:55 AM

 infriging on your rights, freedoms, and liberties as a citizen of this country, 'specially if this is mandated by old Uncle Sam.  Hey, if you want to voluntarily register, microchip, and record all of your creatures (humans included), and notify some unnecessary division of the gov't every time you transport your creature, more power to ya. 

"Papers!  Show me your Papers!"

 

In NM if you cross county lines you have to have travel papers from the state (no coggins, no health papers).  You are supposed to have them with you anytime your horse leaves the property, like anyone does that when they are out riding in the desert.  THEN the county charges you a "commercial" horse tax because you wouldn't need the travel papers if you wern't taking your horse places and the only reason to move your horse is for business...... right?     I couldn't believe it when my 6 and 11yr old kids got tax bills! 

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Posted 2007-12-29 3:20 PM (#73475 - in reply to #72640)
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It is voluntary right now. Only to show your horse at 4H shows, county fairs, etc in Illinois next year you will have to give them a premises identification number or you will NOT be able to show. So much for voluntary.

I think it is going to be a very unnecessary inconvenience for all those involved.

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Posted 2007-12-29 3:35 PM (#73476 - in reply to #72640)
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BTW, I really agree with the unnecessary use of our tax dollars for this BS.

If I remember right, we have never had a problem identifying where a diseased livestock came from in the past with the old system. Why make it more difficult for recreational horse people to recreate. Let's face it, most people who show horses do it for a hobby, not for any kind of monetary/business gain. Makes me glad I have no big show plans in my future, but I'd like to putz around at a schooling show or two every now and again or even a county fair, without any additional hassle to myself or the people I board with.

Hmm, perhaps they are looking for tax revenue from backyard people that board horses, but don't report any income from it?

 

Then again, I solved the Social Security problem. Dump the politicians private social security fund and healthcare program monies into ours and wah lah, now they have to give a care about it. And should, since they've created the problem by dipping their greedy fingers into SS for so long. They should NOT have a separate program from the people they are supposed to be representing, now should they? If it's fair for me, it's fair for them. Especially since, they can draw from SS as well. I know it won't happen, and perhaps it wouldn't solve the whole problem, but would make them care about it a bit more. Sadly it seems, as once they get elected even the best meaning politicians give into the machine, though perhaps some not as deeply as others. Sad really.



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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2007-12-30 1:41 PM (#73496 - in reply to #73476)
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You've solved the Social Security problem and I've solved the wild horse over popluation problem.  To bad the Gov doesn't listen.
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Yvette
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Posted 2007-12-30 7:50 PM (#73508 - in reply to #72640)
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Posted 2008-08-01 1:15 AM (#88723 - in reply to #72640)
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NAIS is apparently is suspension!!!

http://salon.glenrose.net/default.asp?view=plink&id=7644

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-08-01 10:40 AM (#88739 - in reply to #88723)
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this may be a  time for everybody to forget about them, then show up again stronger and ready for them to  put this law in to action, keep watching and listening they are not leting this one go ot that easy
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Posted 2008-08-01 12:17 PM (#88745 - in reply to #72640)
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I am sick and tired of NAIS and the rest of the government.  I just want to take all the unwanted horses and just sit them at NAIS or with a congressman, or a senator.  Then after they get done with them - which will be a wait and watch period.  Then have them try to push me.  By that time maybe their views will haved changed.  I just hope they get the meanest, nastiest, smartest horses around. 
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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2008-08-01 12:49 PM (#88750 - in reply to #72640)
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Amen Frankie.  Think it would be fun to drive a herd of rank horses thru DC.

As I have said before, the feds are not going to be able to enforce NAIS because they do not have the money for the project.  So far, I have not seen a show ask for such information.  This is a good issue for passive resistance....do not register.....there is just no way to enforce this stupid idea.  In the event someone asks me for this information, I intend to ask them how many $$ they will pay for the horse, or in the alternative, where I can get the animal slaughtered.....since the whole deal is "food safety."

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Longrider
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2008-08-01 1:13 PM (#88757 - in reply to #72640)
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I'll give up my horse when they pry it from my cold dead butt. Wait a minute, I've got the wrong legislation here. LOL

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rose
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Posted 2008-08-01 1:44 PM (#88759 - in reply to #72640)
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Longrider......too too funny.....I am still giggling....thanks!
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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-08-01 4:53 PM (#88781 - in reply to #88750)
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Originally written by rose on 2008-08-01 12:49 PM

, I intend to ask them how many $$ they will pay for the horse, or in the alternative, where I can get the animal slaughtered.....since the whole deal is "food safety."

That's what they would like everyone to think it's for.It's really another way to intrude in the private lives and business of taxpayers.

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