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PaulChristenson
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Posted 2007-10-26 6:06 PM (#70039)
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Anyone changing their driving habits?
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Posted 2007-10-26 6:24 PM (#70040 - in reply to #70039)
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I'm going to have to change them, Diesel here in so Cal is almost $ 3.50 a gallon.  I'm afraid it'll hit $ 4.00/gal soon, I'm going to have to work hard to find ways to reduce my driving.

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Posted 2007-10-26 7:30 PM (#70044 - in reply to #70039)
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It's sure going to change mine. High prices changed them a while back, now I am going to have to cut back even more, I won't make it to town but a couple of times a month now. Sold my buggy horse and cart to soon!!
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Posted 2007-10-26 7:33 PM (#70045 - in reply to #70040)
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Yep.  I was a stay at home mom and drove my kids to school and then came home and did what ever needed to be done and helped some of my neighbours with their outdoor chores.  Now I have a part time job that allows me to work near the school.   No more dropping the kids off and driving 20 min to get home to work.  Now it's two minutes.  Then  when I get off work I can go home and...... work.   My neighbour says he really misses me helping him with his yard (hint hint) but he doesn't pay for my fuel!!
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Posted 2007-10-27 12:41 AM (#70054 - in reply to #70039)
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Um diesel here is $2 a liter now!! sold my F250 sd psd  now have a new ranger diesel, 
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Posted 2007-10-27 5:24 AM (#70059 - in reply to #70039)
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Oh mine sure have - the pick-up and SUV stay home most of the time now. I picked up a used Mini Cooper a couple months back for my daily 100 mile commute. It's been a tremendous savings on gas... now my only questions is (Are you Ready?) will it tow a Brenderup? Haha
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Posted 2007-10-27 1:30 PM (#70077 - in reply to #70039)
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This summer I asked the same question to a friend of mine who owns a boat sales/marina. My questions was to see if the increase in gas prices negatively effected his customers and his profits.

His response was that most boat owners who had invested many thousands and tens of thousands of dollars in their equippment and had made vacation plans a year in advance, were going to continue on as usual, regardless of the cost of fuel. The fuel was the least expensive part of their plans.

This summer, at several different horse shows, we observed good turnouts, large classes and the prolifiration of larger and new rigs. My wife and I didn't notice a significant down turn in attendance.

I would assume that the two results are common. Both groups have made major investements in their equippment and will use them in spite of additional costs.

Day to day driving may be changing, but when it comes to hobbies, I think people will do whatever they can to maintain their special interests.

bol  Gard

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Posted 2007-10-27 1:56 PM (#70078 - in reply to #70039)
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Seems the less we use, the more fuel prices rise. The more we use, fuel prices rise. Doesn't look like we can win this situation does it? Seems everything is going up except my paycheck.
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Posted 2007-10-27 2:29 PM (#70082 - in reply to #70039)
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I've noticed a LOT of mopeds here lately.  There have always been a few, but now the walmart has an area just for mopeds to park on the sidewalk in front of the store.  I told my husband I wanted one but he asked where I was going to put the kids.   The sidecar?
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Posted 2007-10-27 4:53 PM (#70088 - in reply to #70077)
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Originally written by gard on 2007-10-27 1:30 PM

This summer I asked the same question to a friend of mine who owns a boat sales/marina. My questions was to see if the increase in gas prices negatively effected his customers and his profits.

His response was that most boat owners who had invested many thousands and tens of thousands of dollars in their equippment and had made vacation plans a year in advance, were going to continue on as usual, regardless of the cost of fuel. The fuel was the least expensive part of their plans.

This summer, at several different horse shows, we observed good turnouts, large classes and the prolifiration of larger and new rigs. My wife and I didn't notice a significant down turn in attendance.

I would assume that the two results are common. Both groups have made major investements in their equippment and will use them in spite of additional costs.

Day to day driving may be changing, but when it comes to hobbies, I think people will do whatever they can to maintain their special interests.

bol  Gard

Not this summer, most people thought this was just a blip...Next show season wil be telling the tale...

Just as an aside...everyone who happens to have a variable rate mortgage will be getting EXCITING new numbers in November...(my lowest row of the keyboard isn't typing very well...)



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Posted 2007-10-27 5:08 PM (#70089 - in reply to #70059)
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No, but it will fit in one.

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Posted 2007-10-28 9:50 AM (#70109 - in reply to #70039)
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I did the same thing-bought a "beater" car to drive back and forth to work, saving miles and gas on my truck for the rare occasion I need to pull the trailer. Like many others, I live in a very small rural community and we are an hour and a half from any city of any size if we need more than groceries or toilet paper. We used to consider a drive to the city and a meal out as entertainment, that has been completely eliminated. Showing? Probably not going to fit in my budget or on an very limited basis in the future. I HATE it when reality interferes with my life. And I cannot understand the people at the groceries and convenience stores who leave their vehicles running while they go inside to run their errands.
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Posted 2007-10-28 10:59 AM (#70112 - in reply to #70088)
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Originally written by PaulChristenson on 2007-10-27 4:53 PM

Originally written by gard on 2007-10-27 1:30 PM

This summer I asked the same question to a friend of mine who owns a boat sales/marina. My questions was to see if the increase in gas prices negatively effected his customers and his profits.

His response was that most boat owners who had invested many thousands and tens of thousands of dollars in their equippment and had made vacation plans a year in advance, were going to continue on as usual, regardless of the cost of fuel. The fuel was the least expensive part of their plans.

This summer, at several different horse shows, we observed good turnouts, large classes and the prolifiration of larger and new rigs. My wife and I didn't notice a significant down turn in attendance.

I would assume that the two results are common. Both groups have made major investements in their equippment and will use them in spite of additional costs.

Day to day driving may be changing, but when it comes to hobbies, I think people will do whatever they can to maintain their special interests.

bol  Gard

Not this summer, most people thought this was just a blip...Next show season wil be telling the tale...

Just as an aside...everyone who happens to have a variable rate mortgage will be getting exiting new numbers in November...



I agree. Plus, we all need to think about other effects. Most of the consumer goods are shipped by truck and with the rising cost of diesel, we will see rising prices in everything we buy. The rising costs of diesel will also affect the farmers and ranchers and their production costs. I do wonder what the future holds.
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Posted 2007-10-29 5:31 AM (#70137 - in reply to #70039)
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Ours just went up to 3.15 a gal. I feel for people using heating fuel this winter. At the price of diesel and heating fuel alot of people are going to struggle to get through...It's ridiculous that we have to pay such prices. Our gov. sure doesn't help or give a crap......JMO
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Posted 2007-10-29 7:59 AM (#70140 - in reply to #70109)
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" And I cannot understand the people at the groceries and convenience stores who leave their vehicles running while they go inside to run their errands."

They want their vehicles stolen....:-)  Is it wrong to hope that they are?

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Posted 2007-10-29 8:58 AM (#70145 - in reply to #70039)
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Ya not only will rising cost of diesel effect all consumer goods, how about the price of hay??? with fuel costs up this year I was lucky enough to get my yearly supply for this year at $4 a bale, up from 3 last year. I hear it is around $5-8 depending who and where you go. I hate to see it next year????!!!!

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Posted 2007-10-31 9:28 PM (#70294 - in reply to #70145)
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$4 a bale would be nice ...here in TN...we had a drought like never before.......we're looking at $8 a bale if we're lucky.....I know people paying $80 for a round bale of trash.....it's insane!
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Posted 2007-11-01 7:52 PM (#70338 - in reply to #70039)
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That is only good thing about Iowa, plenty of rain and green grass. Winters I could do without.
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Posted 2007-11-01 10:53 PM (#70356 - in reply to #70039)
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yep funny how the fuel prices always shoots sky high around holidays,summer vacations,then low and behold they go down a little until the next holiday,,two words (price fixing).
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Posted 2007-11-02 6:15 AM (#70359 - in reply to #70356)
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Originally written by kershawsowner on 2007-11-01 10:53 PM

yep funny how the fuel prices always shoots sky high around holidays,summer vacations,then low and behold they go down a little until the next holiday,,two words (price fixing).

Well, they won't be going down anytime soon, unless we enter a MAJOR recession...CHINA and INDIA are now becoming MAJOR world consumers of oil and there is the rub...

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Posted 2007-11-02 12:58 PM (#70379 - in reply to #70039)
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My turn to complain; I just paid 12.95 for a bale of hay and diesel is up to 3.27. Oh fearless leader of our country says the economy is going strong.........like to know where he's livin.
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Posted 2007-11-02 8:22 PM (#70404 - in reply to #70379)
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Like most of our elected leaders, they are so far removed from the working people that they have no idea what evolves. Heard today where so many thousands of new jobs were added in October. Yeah, right. McJobs and WallyWorld jobs at minimum wage equals the loss of jobs that Chrysler just announced and we're talking about well paid jobs with good benefits vs. slim to no benefits. The sucking sound that one presidential candidate spoke of is not only eminating from down south of the border but from the far east as well.
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Posted 2007-11-03 3:14 AM (#70419 - in reply to #70404)
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Originally written by Longrider on 2007-11-02 8:22 PM

Like most of our elected leaders, they are so far removed from the working people that they have no idea what evolves. Heard today where so many thousands of new jobs were added in October. Yeah, right. McJobs and WallyWorld jobs at minimum wage equals the loss of jobs that Chrysler just announced and we're talking about well paid jobs with good benefits vs. slim to no benefits. The sucking sound that one presidential candidate spoke of is not only eminating from down south of the border but from the far east as well.

 

I feel the need for Pure theory... 

What is the role of government in a capitalist society?

The only purpose of government would be to protect its citizens from force or fraud.

The protection from force, that is, the protection of individual rights, would be achieved through the use of a police force to protect the rights of citizens at home; a military, to protect the rights of citizens from foreign aggression; and a court system to enforce contracts and settle disputes between citizens. Since rights can only be violated by initiating force, the government would only use force in retaliation of those who initiated it.

The greatest aggressor against man -- the greatest spiller of human blood, has been the various governments that man has adopted throughout history. Because the government holds a legal monopoly for the use of force, the crimes committed by individuals acting on their own behalf are trivial compared to the crimes, tyrannies, and wholesale barbarism that governments are responsible for. This is why it is crucial that governments be limited in their ability to use force by a constitution based upon individual rights. That was the key insight of the Founding Fathers which made America freer than any other nation on earth.

Any other function of government than those listed above, no matter what its intentions, would necessitate the violation of rights by initiating the use of force against the people it is supposed to protect. For example, compulsory tax-supported education forces some people to pay for the schooling of others for whom they would not have voluntarily paid for.

 

This is assuming one believes we are living in a capitalistic society...



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Posted 2007-11-05 12:34 PM (#70513 - in reply to #70039)
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Original question was about changing driving habits. Seems like I remember this same question, and similar answers, when the price of gasoline got to, heaven forbid, the world is going to Crash, $1.00 per gallon. And then again when it hit $2.00.
We just seem to adjust and then, most of us, go back to what we were doing.
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Posted 2007-11-05 7:51 PM (#70524 - in reply to #70513)
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I just got back from the Myrtle Beach ride on the beach for the American Heart Ass. and it cost me almost $400 for fuel. Don't know if I can afford it next year. But they did raise $304,000. I will gripe but when time rolls around next year I will probably just suck it up and go again. Who knows? My truck sits in the garage unless it is pulling a trailer I will drive something that costs less to opperate

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Posted 2007-11-05 9:11 PM (#70527 - in reply to #70379)
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Originally written by Copper1272 on 2007-11-02 1:58 PM

My turn to complain; I just paid 12.95 for a bale of hay and diesel is up to 3.27. Oh fearless leader of our country says the economy is going strong.........like to know where he's livin.

I feel your pain there!!!  Gotta love good ole' FL.  My turn... have a horse that colics on the finer type hay, so its Timothy & O/A at $12-15 a bale (roughly 65# bales), that is on stall rest for at least another 5-6 months due to medical reasons.  Its going to be a very long, very expensive winter!!!  And diesel is also 3.29.  Good thing the drought kept the grass from growing too much... not sure if I could afford to mow 14 acres right now (he, he, he).  :)

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Posted 2007-11-06 12:08 PM (#70554 - in reply to #70039)
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Feel your pain...I left southern Md Friday morning and diesel was 3.19 came back Sunday and it was 3.29. Topped off in Va for 3.12. I'm ready to teach my QH and TWH to pull a buggy for my daily driver to work. This is unreal....

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Posted 2007-11-06 3:51 PM (#70571 - in reply to #70527)
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Originally written by mygollygirl on 2007-11-05 9:11 PM

Originally written by Copper1272 on 2007-11-02 1:58 PM

My turn to complain; I just paid 12.95 for a bale of hay and diesel is up to 3.27. Oh fearless leader of our country says the economy is going strong.........like to know where he's livin.

I feel your pain there!!!  Gotta love good ole' FL.  My turn... have a horse that colics on the finer type hay, so its Timothy & O/A at $12-15 a bale (roughly 65# bales), that is on stall rest for at least another 5-6 months due to medical reasons.  Its going to be a very long, very expensive winter!!!  And diesel is also 3.29.  Good thing the drought kept the grass from growing too much... not sure if I could afford to mow 14 acres right now (he, he, he).  :)

 

14 acres you don't mow, you hay...

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Posted 2007-11-07 12:27 PM (#70624 - in reply to #70039)
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Just paid 3.65 for diesel this morning. Sure hope the Duramax can get 30 MPG for that price but not very likely.
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Posted 2007-11-07 1:17 PM (#70626 - in reply to #70039)
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3.29 a gal for diesel here. $3.09 for unleaded.  Plus I just saw a news article that said it dropped 4% per barrel yesterday and settled at 92 a barrel.  Down from where it had been.  The situation with Turkey has downgraded so OPEC isn't so nervous now and are "discussing" increasing production.

The reason we aren't seeing the decrease yet is because local stations buy the fuel at set price and have to sell it at that rate. When that runs out and they refill their tanks we get it at the cost of what it is then.  May take to the end of this week, or early next week before we see the drop.

Until then I am staying at home unless I have to go to town.

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Posted 2007-11-07 1:55 PM (#70627 - in reply to #70527)
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When are these trailer makers going to make an american made trailer that can be pulled with a small SUV or car like a Brenderup, so we can buy a vehicle that gets better mileage?

When are we going to demand these truck makers make a engine that gets better mileage? The government puts demand on them in 2020, I might be dead by then! We know they have the technology to do it and make it that we don't even need oil.

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Posted 2007-11-07 3:02 PM (#70631 - in reply to #70627)
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Originally written by Mihorses on 2007-11-07 7:55 PM

When are these trailer makers going to make an american made trailer that can be pulled with a small SUV or car like a Brenderup, so we can buy a vehicle that gets better mileage?

When are we going to demand these truck makers make a engine that gets better mileage? The government puts demand on them in 2020, I might be dead by then! We know they have the technology to do it and make it that we don't even need oil.

Think consumer demand will ultimately change trucks and cars, here in England most cars from the tiny to big are avaliable with a diesel engine suddenly they have better performance and get better mileage than there gas equivelents,  we have diferent rules on trailers 96" wide and 3.5 tons after that CDL  so mostly we use brenderup type trailers and for transport ,for LQs we use converted box vans (can have  up to 7.5 tons with car licence) most suvs over here are diesel but towing a trailer hurts gas mileage, even something small towing a horse trailer will use lots of fuel I think previous postings were right to sugest a small second car for running about  and keep the truck for pulling trailers and hauling.. ask  your Volkswagen dealer for a polo blue motion!! has super thrifty diesel engine which gets 75 MPG
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Posted 2007-11-08 5:53 PM (#70725 - in reply to #70039)
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Why in the world can't the american people stay home from work one or two days in a row to put a stop to the oil rip off from the oil companys? In two days there would be a surplus of oil they would want to give it away. 
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Topped off in Va for 3.12. I'm ready to teach my QH and TWH to pull a buggy for my daily driver to work. This is unreal....

 

If I could find somewhere to keep my horses while I was at work you can bet your booty that my horses would be pulling a cart into town every day!!  Then I could get a polka-dot wagon to go with my appys.

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D sq, one or two days won't make a bit of difference.
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